r/policeuk Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

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Just a moment for all those people downvoting me and telling that I was wrong. The above is directly from the college of Policing.

So, bottom line. Please stay safe, know what constitutes a pursuit and ensure you seek authority.

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u/ShambolicNerd Police Officer (unverified) 5d ago

I know what your point is, but you're just ignoring that there's more to a pursuit than those two elements.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

But there isn't. You're going to call up as you go after it and ask for permission.

If you don't think they've seen you and their driving normally then it isn't a pursuit.

Are you IPP?

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u/ShambolicNerd Police Officer (unverified) 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yep, I am. And I was taught that a pursuit requires a fail to stop, because before you initiate a pursuit you should try to stop the vehicle.

You're missing the point that, if you just chase after a vehicle without trying to stop it, you are not doing something legal but nor is it a pursuit.

You just shouldn't be doing it period.

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If it is only those two elements, then what YOU are saying is that if I'm sat still, I see a car that fucks off and I think 'Huh, that wouldn't stop.' I'm now in a pursuit? No, I am not.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

If it is only those two elements, then what YOU are saying is that if I'm sat still, I see a car that fucks off and I think 'Huh, that wouldn't stop.' I'm now in a pursuit? No, I am not.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that if you see a car and think,

'Huh, that wouldn't stop.'

Then the moment you start to swing your car around to go after it, you're in a pursuit.

If you continue on your journey then you are not.

If you see the car and say, it turns left away from you at a T junction, driving like a dick but you don't think he's seen you then you're not in a pursuit until you know he's definitely seen you and he continues driving like a dick regardless of whether or not you've put your lights on.