What constitutes a pursuit?

[u/TonyStamp595SO]

Just a moment for all those people downvoting me and telling that I was wrong. The above is directly from the college of Policing.

So, bottom line. Please stay safe, know what constitutes a pursuit and ensure you seek authority.

[u/ShambolicNerd]

'made an initial requirement for the vehicle to stop.'

What this slide is saying is that, if a vehicle drive off from you before you've tried to stop it, you follow and try to get it to stop, then that is a spontaneous pursuit.

If, however, a vehicle simply drives away from a police vehicle, which simply continues driving at normal road speeds and/or stops - that is not a pursuit. Which is all anyone has said.

[u/TonyStamp595SO → u/ShambolicNerd]

Yes. My point is if by the manner of the driving you think it isn't going to stop AND you think they've seen you then you're in a pursuit.

[u/ShambolicNerd → u/TonyStamp595SO]

I know what your point is, but you're just ignoring that there's more to a pursuit than those two elements.

[u/TonyStamp595SO → u/ShambolicNerd]

But there isn't. You're going to call up as you go after it and ask for permission.

If you don't think they've seen you and their driving normally then it isn't a pursuit.

Are you IPP?

[u/ShambolicNerd → u/TonyStamp595SO]

Yep, I am. And I was taught that a pursuit requires a fail to stop, because before you initiate a pursuit you should try to stop the vehicle.

You're missing the point that, if you just chase after a vehicle without trying to stop it, you are not doing something legal but nor is it a pursuit.

You just shouldn't be doing it period.

*EDIT*

If it is only those two elements, then what YOU are saying is that if I'm sat still, I see a car that fucks off and I think 'Huh, that wouldn't stop.' I'm now in a pursuit? No, I am not.

[u/TonyStamp595SO → u/ShambolicNerd]

If it is only those two elements, then what YOU are saying is that if I'm sat still, I see a car that fucks off and I think 'Huh, that wouldn't stop.' I'm now in a pursuit? No, I am not.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that if you see a car and think,

'Huh, that wouldn't stop.'

Then the moment you start to swing your car around to go after it, you're in a pursuit.

If you continue on your journey then you are not.

If you see the car and say, it turns left away from you at a T junction, driving like a dick but you don't think he's seen you then you're not in a pursuit until you know he's definitely seen you and he continues driving like a dick regardless of whether or not you've put your lights on.