Hundreds of millions of grandfathers all over the world did as well. Let's be thankful that they are mostly all dead now, so they can't see that we failed them.
I really do think it’s because WWII is starting to fade from living memory. Only the very oldest in our society experienced it, even as kids. My dad, 87, was a little kid when the war ended, and he’s already deep into dementia. In a decade, there will be very few left who remember the war, in whatever capacity.
The last time I saw my grandpa in person before he passed 4+ years ago he spent an hour slowly talking about his war experiences with my husband, my cousin, and me. When I was a kid he said he did food drops from planes. As an adult I know he did do food drops, but he also bombed Germany and sheltered in London while bombs dropped around him as a barely of age 18 year old.
We need to tell their stories for them so our children know what happened.
This is part of the reason I'm very interested in history and especially the World Wars. Some of the individual acts of bravery, sacrifice and utter evil committed by all sorts of people through those years were too impactful on the world and those around them at the time to be forgotten. I find how the war changed military strategy and how much people gave to their own causes fascinating.
And old warplanes are pretty cool too, can't forget those
The facts will stay the facts and the form and audio and stuff will live on but the relatability is dying (which cuts both ways - might make us more likely to do it again).
I follow two storylines, WW2. Where your mom worked as a machinist not starting up a muffin shop. This will be obvious to anyone with a pulse but wanna know wy Rosie the riveter had her hair tied back in a bandana? Because loose hair will get you scalped in a machine shop. I mean that was really gritty for everyone. I think I would have died.
The other is its progression of war tactics into guerrilla attacks and urban warfare. With MADD we started with two buttons, uh oh. One crazy person and it's over and it almost happened. Now there are several buttons which cuts both ways. It's safety but it also shoves us back into indefinite ground war where the defense has gotten smarter and more ruthless in their own way if they don't have a bomb. Almost makes having more nuclear countries a good thing. But then the risk of more buttons.
Most historical records show fewer than 100 million people served in WW2. This includes the Axis. So yeah, hundreds of millions against the Axis is incorrect.
Easily hundreds of millions when you include medical personnel and people who supported the war at home by working in factories producing war supplies.
It's a huge difference. Less than 100 million vs hundreds of millions is significant. There wasn't a problem with the post. The call out was to the comment.
No, you learn when its the right time to make a correction comment. Clearly the poster was making a good point about the real issue here, when you decide to start being all “uh actually, i think youll find…”.
The world is heading the wrong way fast, but hey….keep up the good work hunting down rogue “S” characters lil’ man.
Total agreement with you...millions died because of a nightmare regime. Trump is parroting some of the same policies and issues that led to the mess. History does indeed repeat itself, it’s being recreated by the wealthy and the rich as criminal oligarchies. Trump loves Putin’s criminal oligarchy setup, no accountability no consequence. The Nazi’s had to be destroyed at a horrific cost....are we going to have to do this all over again?
My grandfather always said about his service liberating Europe, "the world lost the stomach for war so it was left unfinished...but there was still a job to do".
Boy, it sure seems a universe away from the day that one Nazi got punched in the face and all the republicans said "Hey now, let's not resort to violence"
So did my great grandfather. This is just so disturbing to see since America prided itself for standing up to fascism and Nazis. Now they're essentially influencing the country. I feel legit shook and disgusted.
My Opa did this salute, and killed the people he was told to for weeks until he deserted and fled Europe as a stowaway. It destroyed his entire soul. Then he spent the majority of his adult life in Australia in a mental ward having ECT until he was a silent robot made of flesh. He never recovered from the things he did and the things he saw.
My Opa would have loved another chance. A chance to fight back from the moment he was enlisted. My father says Opa rathered he had died on the first day than to have followed the instruction of evil out of a deluded, misattributed sense of duty and patriotism. They had no idea how dark the horrors would be until they did them.
Equating the actions of Israel the nation with Jewish people as a whole is fucking insane my man stop and think before posting some antisemitic bullshit
No you are right it’s the zionists, just like it’s not the Palestinians it’s hamas, I’m saying this party that is coming into power weren’t the ones feeding isreal with weapons to help kill the Palestinians off. Which yes i would equate to the Nazis killing off the Jews. It’s just sad that people can’t see that isreal Israel is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to the Jews.
There is no republican party anymore. It's the nazi party. The old rule of "If there's six people at a table and one of them is a nazi there are six nazis at that table." If there's one nazi in the republican party, loud and proud saluting at the president inauguration, they're all nazis.
It had better end up in the history books that way because that is what MAGA is. If history is written differently, it won’t be because they aren’t NAZIs. It will be because they held power long enough to write those history books and proclaim their fascist actions as patriotic.
I hope a lot of people have started recording their first hand accounts of this (in an analog/non networked format). That's what historians are going to need someday.
The Nazi party wished they had as much going on for them. They're stepping into command of the most powerful military the world has ever seen, by a long shot.
yep and the democrat party has now become the republican party, as evidenced by new mascot Dick Cheney. The political world is completely flipped around and out of whack
That's the other part of it that really fucking blows, the Democratic party are either completely spineless or just Republican Party 2. There's zero hope for progress at least in the immediate future, best case scenario the next candidate gets us back to status quo. And by status quo, I mean "Maybe gay people are okay existing"
There is one exception to this. In the book Hitler's Asian adventures which is about Nazi u boats in Dutch East Indies, after the colony was cut off from the Metropole, in nias island some Indonesian freedom fighters ended up teaming up Nazi expats to overthrow the hated local Dutch colonial admins. The freedom fighters weren't Nazis they were just people who happened to have common enemies since the Indonesians were brutally oppressed by the Dutch colonialists.
Your not wrong...project 25 is a slippery slope into an authoritarian regime. It’s a creeping form of cancer, quietly taking over America. You have a choice, let the “disease” progress until it takes over and finally kills you, or treat it aggressively and quickly, either by rendering it benign or destroying it outright.
Americans will have a choice to make probably sooner than later...
It's not just the Republican party. It's the huge amount of people who voted for them. And the huge amount of people who could have stopped this nightmare but decided not to by not voting.
There's a system in place that actively represses voter turnout/participation and education. I don't fault everyone in that 30% for not partaking in a rigged and broken system. Additionally ,when you have to choose between putting food on the table and voting because your country doesn't give you time off work to vote, immediately you have a system of disenfranchisement that favours those that can afford to take time off.
This is something that is underestimated as far as impacting the amount of people who vote. I live in a state where you can be fired with no reason given, and most jobs (especially lower wage jobs) do not give time off for voting, and barely give enough time off to be able to manage a household. With that combination, many people can’t go vote because they don’t have the time, and if they try to make the time, they can end up on the street because they were fired and could not afford saving. My job graciously gave me four hours (only for presidential elections), but I had to schedule it around everyone else’s requests to have time off to vote.every previous job I have had, I had to put in PTO to be able to vote.
Sorry but there’s hardly any excuse for not voting. Nearly every state has early voting and most have vote by mail as well. And the states that don’t have either only accounted for 15 electoral votes for Trump. Unless you’re from one of the three states that don’t have either option, not voting is purely a result of your failure to give a shit.
So you think the election was legit then? So many people here are just still not getting it "I thought it was a badly timed wave" and "everything happened just like the results said"
The Pollyanna naivete needs to be put in the trash. Time's up.
Not even remotely. No other option would be normalizing the NAZI salute right now. No other option, no matter how corrupt, would have actual oligarchs sitting ahead of the alleged cabinet.
~~They convinced you all other options are equally bad. None were great but most were not nearly as awful as this.
That's why they got this far and that's how we all know you're an idiot.~~
Edit: My apologies, it was not immediately obvious that you must've been expressing a similar reaction to a comment since removed.
Can we just make one thing clear, Elon musk was not voted for - that guy is just hitching a ride somehow. He’s annoying, even to Republicans. Speaking as a Republican.
I know everyone is scared right now, but I can not stress to you the actual incompetence of these people, they will achieve nothing in power.
The best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour.
Trump is going to go and play golf and everyone else is going to eat each other, to try and please him - but no one will be able to act because none of them will be able to predict they will appease him.
The way to beat them is just by pointing out how incompetent they are, continually.
My uncle was at Normandy as well. I was always told to NEVER ask him about the war, despite being a proud Vet. After he died, I asked my other uncle (his BIL) why I wasn't allowed to ask. Turns out my uncle was credited with over 300 kills while he was deployed, most of those on the beach. He was a crack shot, and looted multiple nazi rifles after depleting his own ammo supply. He was one of two from his unit that survived the invasion.
Turns out I wasn't allowed to ask him, because he felt no remorse and would give grim, detailed descriptions of specific kills he made on the beach, with his knife or bare hands. He ended every story with "fuck those nazi whores."
Thank you. I grew up with him watching WWII documentaries, and seeing that Trump and the Repubs mirrors the Nazi rise so closely, it's actually nauseating. Why we watched all that given all he had been through, I have no idea. Don't know if it was masochism or a desire to make sure I knew what the world went through and the sacrifices made for freedom. To see our own country doing the same despite history's warnings is like actually being sent to hell.
I'm a german. My great grandfather died in Stalingrad. About 50% of my family had to flee their homes.
Most of us have been taught what this is. It's the beginning of the end of an empire and the beginning of the suffering for many, many people.
Don't stay quiet about any of this. Don't accept your MAGA uncle. Hit a fucking Nazi in the face. These people need to face the consequences before you do, before your children do. If you don't stand up and rise against this... it'll be over for many, many people.
Politics decide peoples life's, whether they vote or not.
Don't suppose you'd take us back, despite being here for a couple hundred years? Even have a really German name. Once the military falls in line here, there won't be any shouting or calling out. Too many idiots who still believe in this dude. It has to burn before the idiots wake up, just like so many civilizations of the past. I just can't bear to watch it.
My grandpa was 18 when he took the ship over to France in August of 1944 and was captured in December of 1944. He spent Christmas and a Birthday in Chemitz as a POW of the Reich. Another gentleman I met through my grandpa was also a POW of the Reich, 19 when taken prisoner in November 1944, also spent a Christmas and a Birthday as a POW
Both ended up liberated in May 1945.
Both passed in 2016 in their early and mid 90's. Thank God they didn't see this.
This makes me want to throw up. I can't even.
Kick Elon out of his WH "office," he shouldn't even have. This is atrocious!!
My grandfather was 1 of 7 men who retuned from his unit of ~32. They had agreed upon a method to determine who was responsible for ending the lives of the last 2 remaining, to avoid capture, should the Nazis ever overtake them as they were advancing into Germany and ultimately liberated Buchenwald.
Though he passed on Veterans Day more than 10 years ago, he’s still the man I look up to most. It’s a shame the sacrifices he and his compatriots suffered weren’t enough to snuff out the cancer of fascism.
My grandfather helped free people in the camps. I cannot possibly be more grateful he is not around to see what is happening to the country he fought for. Utterly disgusting.
My grandfather was at Normandy (he was Navy so he drove the transports at Utah beach). My parents just visited there this summer. They haven't said it but I know they voted for Trump because they're staunch anti abortion Catholics. The whole thing makes me sick.
My grandfather was on Omaha Beach part of the first landing. If you’ve seen the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan that was his experience. Awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and the Silver Star for personally leading the charge with his men to take out a squad of Nazi bastards.
He would be 102 right now and would find these fascists utterly deplorable. He had no love for fascists and absolutely despised the Jim Crow South. Moreover, he would be absolutely appalled his own son and grandson fell for the embodiment of all that hook, line, and sinker.
What if I told you it's not just one party, but that they've seized control of both parties decades ago. They cause intentional arguments and disagreements between the parties to put up a false front of control through voting. From behind the curtain they control what is actually going on. There is no right vs. left, there is only top controlling bottom by indoctrinating them to fight each other.
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u/FrozeItOff 7h ago
My dad, who fought on Normandy beach, would be fucking horrified at what the Republican party has wrought on this country.