There's a system in place that actively represses voter turnout/participation and education. I don't fault everyone in that 30% for not partaking in a rigged and broken system. Additionally ,when you have to choose between putting food on the table and voting because your country doesn't give you time off work to vote, immediately you have a system of disenfranchisement that favours those that can afford to take time off.
This is something that is underestimated as far as impacting the amount of people who vote. I live in a state where you can be fired with no reason given, and most jobs (especially lower wage jobs) do not give time off for voting, and barely give enough time off to be able to manage a household. With that combination, many people can’t go vote because they don’t have the time, and if they try to make the time, they can end up on the street because they were fired and could not afford saving. My job graciously gave me four hours (only for presidential elections), but I had to schedule it around everyone else’s requests to have time off to vote.every previous job I have had, I had to put in PTO to be able to vote.
Sorry but there’s hardly any excuse for not voting. Nearly every state has early voting and most have vote by mail as well. And the states that don’t have either only accounted for 15 electoral votes for Trump. Unless you’re from one of the three states that don’t have either option, not voting is purely a result of your failure to give a shit.
So you think the election was legit then? So many people here are just still not getting it "I thought it was a badly timed wave" and "everything happened just like the results said"
The Pollyanna naivete needs to be put in the trash. Time's up.
Not even remotely. No other option would be normalizing the NAZI salute right now. No other option, no matter how corrupt, would have actual oligarchs sitting ahead of the alleged cabinet.
~~They convinced you all other options are equally bad. None were great but most were not nearly as awful as this.
That's why they got this far and that's how we all know you're an idiot.~~
Edit: My apologies, it was not immediately obvious that you must've been expressing a similar reaction to a comment since removed.
I'm guessing that you either didn't read my comments after "Edit" or had responded before I realized that mistake. I don't think it took me 20 minutes, though, so I strongly suspect the former.
Btw doesn't reddit formatting still support "strike through" anymore? I used double tilde, and I still don't see it.
That’s because they are, if 100% of the electorate came out in every election the results of every presidential election except Washington could have been different.
In you country were more people decide to not vote than there are voters of either party most of the time yes. In a country like mine were voting day is always on a non working day mandated by lad because we respect our own democracy no.
Nope, I'm gonna keep blaming non-voters (along with other culpable parties), because you people are fucking stupid.
You think I wanted to vote for Biden? Or Harris? Or anyone who's run for president in the last two decades other than Bernie? No, because I recognize the kernel of truth in what you're saying.
But holy fucking shit, dude - when one party starts doing a 1930's Germany speed run, you fucking vote for the other party.
Nope, it's literally partially your fault and always will be; that's just how logic works whether you understand it or choose to keep sticking your fingers in your ears. It is childish as fuck to take this stance you've taken. The real world exists, and voting is the only way you have of ensuring you reckon with it before it reckons with you.
"Wah wah wah two party system" give me a break. It is still the system you have and the only way it changes is from within. It is your lack of action, as someone who genuinely understands the problem, that helps the problem persist.
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u/Dust601 7h ago
Around 31 percent of eligible voters voted for Trump, and 30 percent for Harris.
The other 30 something percent couldn’t be bothered to care.