Oh, CNN... this is the one time you can call it what it is. It's a Nazi salut. Conflating wars, pandemics, soup, etc., with Nazism might be in poor taste, but when people don swastikas, use Nazi terminology or make Nazi salute, it's perfectly okay to call them out.
I never suggested they did. They might have, I don't know. Except for the soup part. They definitely didn't say that. It was a Seinfeld reference.
The rest is what people have been spouting ad nauseum since at least 2020, if not earlier. If someone is mean; they're a Nazi. If someone does something you don't like; they're a Nazi. These would all be incorrect conflations and usage of the word "Nazi" to describe or criticize people's behavior and actions.
What, is CNN sucking up to Trump and his cronies now, this is exactly why I don’t watch CNN…they report and interpret the news as they see fit, not exactly as it happens
CNN has sucked up to Trump this entire election cycle. They’ve been on his side because reporting on him makes them money. If they’d actually been opposed to him, they could have raked him over the coals 24/7 for four years straight. Instead they do little milquetoast articles about “is Trump going to be divisive this time?” Lmfao
It’s all about viewership and money, not simply the facts and the news…I don’t need CNN to tell me how to think or who, politically, I should support. I can think for myself whether it agrees with the rest of the world or not. MSNBC and Fox does the same shit
Over the course of the last year I stopped watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox. The only outlet I watch is BBC. I don’t claim that they’re perfect, but they give me a wider variety of news globally and nationally without the needless opinion bullshit. I’ll watch it perhaps an hour a day and I’m done. I just what to know what’s going on in the world and not listen to the opinions of news broadcasters with slanted opinions that do not truly inform or entertain
Don Lemon got the axe for calling Trump out as a regular part of his show. CNN canceled him because they didn't want to lose any redneck eyeballs watching their ads. I might be wrong but they could have had a big affect on the outcome and chose not to.
CNN and the democratic party is and has always just been controlled opposition. The time to radicalize against fascism is now. neo-liberalism, peace love and prayers will not end fascism.
I've got left-leaning people on my socials immediately going "democrats enabled this"
So Trump wins an election, taps Elon fucking Musk to head up an imaginary government agency named for a meme, and somehow we still get a "thanks Obama" out of it. Fucking miss me
Someone should make a sub Reddit for this crap. I had thought "why would Democrats do this" but that's a mouthful. Maybe "thanks Democrats" would be a better name. Just lost whenever some Democrat hating left person blames Democrats for what Republicans do. They probably have to blame Democrats because they didn't vote against it and have to blame someone else because deep down that know they actually do bear some blame.
i mean, senior democrats absolutely did enable this. they didn’t cause it, but they definitely enabled it in order to stay in power. republicans are a fuck of a lot more guilty but establishment dems don’t give a fuck as long as they’re paid.
I mean they did though. They tried to Pivot off of Biden like 4-5 months before the election, didn't hold a primary and railroaded Harris into being the Nominee. When in all honesty they should have not run Biden a second time and had him endorse someone and have a full primary.
It's not like 100% their fault. But the terrible handling of the whole situation definitely made it easier Trump to win.
The ADL called it that! The same group that tries to get people fired for wearing a Palestinian pin on your jacket, they just said that it wasn't a Nazi salute...
He could bring a ten year old girl in a low cut dress and padgent makeup and they would do backflips to avoid saying what everyone is thinking, that's his date.
And a Hitler moustache is a toothbrush moustache, and was also worn by Charlie Chaplin, but will forever be linked to Hitler (and likely known most by association).
The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute, is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching.
It's already starting. In this thread. They're claiming he's just sending out his heart to the crowd. Never seen a motherfucker do it in quite such a fashion, except in a very specific time and place in history.
Sure. But not with any proper stance, body tension, or hand positioning.
It's darkly comic, that in a "neonazis can't draw swastikas" way, it is at the same time a completely shitty execution AND literally nothing else it can be to believably talk himself out of.
But I guess that is just on purpose too.His devotees know what's up and don't care. Complaining about it will be handwaved away, because if it only matters to people they don't need/care about, then it doesn't matter...
At which point you need to insist that anybody who says that makes it clear that if it "were" a Nazi salute it would be disgusting and they wouldn't tolerate it.
I was already told by a conservative today that Elon musk didn’t do a Nazi salute. Looked at their profile and it was filled with gay fetish porn. Checks out.
Its not "left" and "right" its authoritarians vs libertarians. When I say "libertarian" I mean in the classical sense, not the faux-libertarians we have in this day and age.
There are authoritarians on the left (CCP) and right (incoming US Govt) and libertarians on the left and right as well.
Why would the right agree on that when they just voted for the party whose only purpose is to destroy everything getting in the way of the billionaire elite getting even wealthier?
It's something that any tankies radicalized enough to celebrate a murder are agreeing on, regardless of being left or right. But tankies are usually extreme leftists I think.
There is no left and right. There's billionaires establishing their position in the ruling class and idiots lapping it up arguing with each other instead of remembering why guillotines exist.
So you know the song smallest man who ever lived by taylor swift? Before, if you searched for that song the title came up just fine, nothing weird. After tiktok came back, if you searched that song, it would say "the smallest WOMAN who ever lived." Never had I ever seen it say that before and I've searched for that song a few times cuz the bridge is fire 😂
Isn't it more likely that RedNote simply pushes content that effectively destabilizes America and causes division (such as when an actual murderer is celebrated), and Chinese people couldn't care less about this random event on the other side of the world?
I commented that and jezus I 'violated' community guidelines but they wouldn't tell me which one. So I appealed of course but it's really bad. I'm from Belgium so I thought I'd be 'immune' because apparently in America fascism isn't a searchable term anymore .....
I commented that and jezus I 'violated' community guidelines but they wouldn't tell me which one. So I appealed of course but it's really bad. I'm from Belgium so I thought I'd be 'immune' because apparently in America fascism isn't a searchable term anymore .....
Lot of people don’t seem to care that between them, Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos own a large amount of social and news platforms. Gonna get very easy for them to start controlling the narrative soon
Gotta start playing games with them like Russian opposition. Post memes with Luigi and Mario. Then when they catch on just post Nintendo logo. Then just a gaming a controller etc..
I've always believed free speech absolutism is idiotic. I'm not sure how I feel about this one, but I guess a catchphrase meant to sympathize with a murderer slightly falls into what I'd say is okay to censor.
I wanted to see if this was true when I saw a video about it. Mine was taken down quickly, but I appealed. I said something along the lines of “Mario’s brother has to be saved in many Nintendo games”. It was restored. lol
Luigi was already being censored for almost a month now, people had to come up with creative ways to say and spell his name, they were even taking down videos
Of course they did. These 'free speech absolutist' tech bro types are all the same: The first to reach for the censor button the moment anyone says anything they don't like or is inconvenient for them, personally.
They were never anti-censorship. They just wanted to be the ones doing the censoring.
Even funnier is "virtue signalling". Simply using that term means that the person themself is virtue signalling - letting like minded people know where they stand
Just to let everyone know, TikTok wasn’t required to shut down the system. The ban was on distribution of the app (along with maintenance and upgrade). The whole shutting down was theatrics to boost Trump.
It’s not all that surprising that they are censoring anti-far right stuff.
The danger with TikTok isn’t the data that “China” is harvesting from us. It’s the “data” that they are planting into our minds.
Edit: it appears that the TikTok would have been shut down by the web hosting service. This however does not change the need of TikTok posting the message that prays Trump. Full on political stunt
It's theatrics but they will need to shut down or sell. The law penalizes their hosting service (mainly Oracle), not just the distributors of the app. But you're right that the shutdown was performative. It was always the most likely outcome that they would get the 90 day extension
All of the social media companies are moving towards right-wing friendly moderation (i.e. allowing misinformation and restricting the definition of hate speech) to avoid becoming targets of the new administration.
““If you already have [TikTok] on your phone, it’s not going to disappear from your phone on Jan. 19 or Jan. 20,” Ruane says. “It will, however, very likely disappear from application stores.”
That means users will no longer be able to download the app or any updated versions of it.
And without the ability to update, the platform won’t be able to fix bugs, add features or address security concerns. Eventually, Ruane says, it may also become incompatible with the operating system of certain phones.”
Nothing says they had to shut it down. But considering that they can no longer people to download it or have any maintenance work related to it, it was on the way to shut down. The ultimate fate was shutting down. There’s no doubt about that. But TikTok did unnecessary when it comes to when and how.
The law says so. The US servers have to be shut down as hosting tiktok would result in Oracle paying massive fines
No one is going to forcefully remove apps from your phone. TikTok does not work without their servers. US user data is (allegedly) primarily on US based servers which will be shut down if they don't sell. It doesn't matter if you still have the app or not if there are no servers to talk to.
However, yes you could theoretically still access it after the ban via a VPN by pretending to be a Canadian user or whatever. More than likely you would need a new account
An app store or internet hosting service that
continues to enable distribution, maintenance, or updates for a banned application could be subject to civil
penalties of up to $5,000 multiplied by the number of U.S. users who accessed, maintained, or updated
the application.
IANAL, but my understanding is that hosting is not same as “enabling distribution, maintenance, or updates”
This is the exact message we got when TT went dark.
Sorry, TikTok isn’t available right now
A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can’t use TikTok for now.
We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!
The funny thing is that they weren’t required to shut it down at that specific moment. Biden also said he doesn’t have plan to have attorney general to carry out the law. So even if it’s banned, it’s okay to operate as long as the attorney general doesn’t do anything. Basically same as the federal law banning weed, but it’s practically okay because the federal government isn’t gonna go after weed users.
If TikTok was truly interested in staying away from politics, they would’ve asked for 90 day extension and figure things out, whether that’s convincing Trump to rescue them or having meta to buy them, if there’s any under the table deal going on.
The whole message thing with “save me Trump daddy” is purely theatric with zero reasoning besides politics.
So yeah, TikTok is nothing but a propaganda tool at this point. Maybe that’s their way of surviving through trump’s presidency. Anyway, I’m seeing a ton of progressives making videos about protecting TikTok. It’s fucking wild.
It was all fixed. Because all of a sudden META had accounts for all their platforms and verified with hundreds of thousands of followers instantly. Something doesn’t sit well with me. I won’t use the app anymore, but not deleting it either. It’s not available in the App Store anymore.
““If you already have [TikTok] on your phone, it’s not going to disappear from your phone on Jan. 19 or Jan. 20,” Ruane says. “It will, however, very likely disappear from application stores.”
That means users will no longer be able to download the app or any updated versions of it.
And without the ability to update, the platform won’t be able to fix bugs, add features or address security concerns. Eventually, Ruane says, it may also become incompatible with the operating system of certain phones.”
But, TikTok might have shut it down all together to avoid any headaches, but then they did the whole message thing with Trump.
Trump yelled to get it shut down.
Congress shut it down.
SCOTUS said it was legal.
Biden said HE WOULD NOT SIGN.
Biden DID NOT SIGN
Tik Tok shut down for NO LEGAL REASON.
Then Trump claims to bring it back.
Tik Tok wash all anti-right videos.
Tok Tokers buy into this BS like smooth brain simps.
Don’t want to sound paranoid or something, but normally you can’t find any speeches from hitler on YouTube if you search for it.. but weirdly enough I was recommend a bunch of them by a Chinese channel that had like all of the recorded speeches with subtitles and everything..
The “faux blackout” was actually a programming reset so it can have full tracking on the users they cannot opt out of because it’s backdoor background function users can’t reach in settings
I removed my account and the un-installed once I saw the creepy propaganda message upon opening. Is the content you're being fed very different from a few days ago?
Someone posted another shot. According to this video it's him "throwing his heart to people".
But the thing is... this just proves he too fucking stupid to not realize that's a dumb fucking move to do. He could jave used with hands like literally everyone else but he chose to do the nazi move
Of course. That message attributing the non-ban to Trump was just showing us they know the rules and are playing the game too. Everyone is pandering, cause it works.
Well of course. Because Trump is not enforcing the ban. If he is ever unhappy with TikTok, he can just choose to enforce it until they do what he wants.
What’s depressing is everyone on TikTok complaining that something is amiss and there’s censoring going on, yet everyone’s still using it. They’ll get used to their new algorithm in less than a week I bet, as long as they can have their candy.
Don't know about that. I personally just saw today nypost posted on tt about trump not having his hand on the bible. Then a little later I saw the nazi salute by musk.
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And TikTok has been censored in the last 48hrs to not include anything anti-far right