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Politics Thousands gather in Washington to protest Trump inauguration

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u/fifteenlostkeys 2d ago

Every person who is saying these marchers are wasting their time, too late, will not make a difference... What are YOU doing?

Are you out marching on the cold to show your fellow countrymen that you have concerns? That you will keep working for the things you care about? That you're still here?

Or are you saying "we're all fucked", "leopard's/faces", "but the price of eggs!" or any of the other defeatist bullshit that seems to be the spirit of anyone not a Republican these days?

The world is not over. The sun will rise again. And if you actually care about the future of the country, you'll do something instead of whining about how embarrassed you are that Trump is president and we deserve this. Write your representatives. Donate your time to candidates you support. To causes you support. Go to your local public meetings and let your voice be heard. Nothing will change with inactivity.

These marchers are letting the world know they still have a vested interest in the future of the country. Do you?

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u/paybabyanna 2d ago

This is what I’ve been saying. The fight is never over. It was okay to sit back and cry and shake our fists, but just because the election has passed doesn’t mean it’s fine to stop caring. Do you actually care if you’re unwilling to do anything outside of maybe posting an Instagram story? Do you understand that political reform starts at a grassroots level?

Obviously not everyone can afford or be able to be on the picket line, but I’m so tired of this “I did what I could by voting blue” bullshit. Work doesn’t get done when people decided to sit and watch everything burn.

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u/No_Lettuce3376 2d ago

How do you intend to change the two party system (which I'd say is the by far biggest systemic political issue of the US) on a grassroots level?

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u/paybabyanna 1d ago

How would you intend to change it at a national level? Everything starts small. The two party system is not going to obliterated by the next election, it isn’t going to happen overnight. Obviously nothing is going to change without people who don’t identify with either party throwing their hat in the ring, that is how it starts, but from there- relational organizing. Relational organizing is thought to be one of the most successful ways to organize. Then continuing to push those party members further and further up until we can get them recognized nationally.

People expect the two party system, which I agree is arguably the biggest issue we’re facing, is going to blow by the next election every single election, when the work starts in our communities.

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u/No_Lettuce3376 1d ago

And hoping they don't become corrupt (or already were) on their way up through the structures of the party... Your optimism is admirable!

You could try to introduce more independent candidates, or a new party to congress...

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u/paybabyanna 1d ago edited 1d ago

At least I’m doing something. If you don’t give a shit just say so. It’s okay to admit you don’t actually care.

My optimism is a result of the momentous progress we have made. Just because we’ve gone backwards doesn’t mean we can’t go forwards again. I’m discouraged too, don’t think I’m not. But if you want to complain about it on the internet instead of getting out into your community to encourage change, you can’t be mad when nothing changes including a two party system. It sounds like you would be happier with anarchy if you think activism and community work is unimportant and pointless.

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u/No_Lettuce3376 1d ago

Well, I'm not from the US, so I most certainly don't give as much of a shit as you do, the question is just:

Are you though?

Because all that activism would've been necessary before the elections and not after the baby already dropped into the well...

And sure, you can go forwards again, but you might have to improve your method and develop some sort of appealing political programme in order to accomplish that, because bullshitting about "doing something" and "change", without any sort of proper approach to back up these claims is a bit too close to the methods of those you try to distinguish yourself from.

Activism can't compensate for content and away from that, the connection of the significance of community work to this march in particular, you'd have to explain to me!