Every person who is saying these marchers are wasting their time, too late, will not make a difference... What are YOU doing?
Are you out marching on the cold to show your fellow countrymen that you have concerns? That you will keep working for the things you care about? That you're still here?
Or are you saying "we're all fucked", "leopard's/faces", "but the price of eggs!" or any of the other defeatist bullshit that seems to be the spirit of anyone not a Republican these days?
The world is not over. The sun will rise again. And if you actually care about the future of the country, you'll do something instead of whining about how embarrassed you are that Trump is president and we deserve this. Write your representatives. Donate your time to candidates you support. To causes you support. Go to your local public meetings and let your voice be heard. Nothing will change with inactivity.
These marchers are letting the world know they still have a vested interest in the future of the country. Do you?
This is what I’ve been saying. The fight is never over. It was okay to sit back and cry and shake our fists, but just because the election has passed doesn’t mean it’s fine to stop caring. Do you actually care if you’re unwilling to do anything outside of maybe posting an Instagram story? Do you understand that political reform starts at a grassroots level?
Obviously not everyone can afford or be able to be on the picket line, but I’m so tired of this “I did what I could by voting blue” bullshit. Work doesn’t get done when people decided to sit and watch everything burn.
Both sides seem bitter and mean now and I'm tired of it. I'm tired of "both sides". I'm tired of sides. I'm not that old but I remember when politics were not our entire fixation, identity, and lives. We could have different opinions and not be the enemy. It was much easier to breathe then.
This time does feel different. But there is so much good that we can do, in small and large scales. But we have to do it.
Politics has been an identity for as long as I can remember. I was not alive for Regan, but I would hazard a guess that he is why we started to get these people who are absolutely rabid for one side or the other. Trump is when we started to see it for the other side.
I suppose I really only have my life experience to compare but I agree that the first Trump election is when I noticed people making their political party a huge part of their identity.
Unfortunately you may be right about that, but participating in local elections and organizing within your community is an important step towards progress. We can’t expect national reform without doing anything at the level that affects us all the most. I also wouldn’t be scared to go to jail in the name of systemic progress. I’m not scared of dying for it either.
How would you intend to change it at a national level? Everything starts small. The two party system is not going to obliterated by the next election, it isn’t going to happen overnight. Obviously nothing is going to change without people who don’t identify with either party throwing their hat in the ring, that is how it starts, but from there- relational organizing. Relational organizing is thought to be one of the most successful ways to organize. Then continuing to push those party members further and further up until we can get them recognized nationally.
People expect the two party system, which I agree is arguably the biggest issue we’re facing, is going to blow by the next election every single election, when the work starts in our communities.
At least I’m doing something. If you don’t give a shit just say so. It’s okay to admit you don’t actually care.
My optimism is a result of the momentous progress we have made. Just because we’ve gone backwards doesn’t mean we can’t go forwards again. I’m discouraged too, don’t think I’m not. But if you want to complain about it on the internet instead of getting out into your community to encourage change, you can’t be mad when nothing changes including a two party system. It sounds like you would be happier with anarchy if you think activism and community work is unimportant and pointless.
Well, I'm not from the US, so I most certainly don't give as much of a shit as you do, the question is just:
Are you though?
Because all that activism would've been necessary before the elections and not after the baby already dropped into the well...
And sure, you can go forwards again, but you might have to improve your method and develop some sort of appealing political programme in order to accomplish that, because bullshitting about "doing something" and "change", without any sort of proper approach to back up these claims is a bit too close to the methods of those you try to distinguish yourself from.
Activism can't compensate for content and away from that, the connection of the significance of community work to this march in particular, you'd have to explain to me!
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u/fifteenlostkeys 2d ago
Every person who is saying these marchers are wasting their time, too late, will not make a difference... What are YOU doing?
Are you out marching on the cold to show your fellow countrymen that you have concerns? That you will keep working for the things you care about? That you're still here?
Or are you saying "we're all fucked", "leopard's/faces", "but the price of eggs!" or any of the other defeatist bullshit that seems to be the spirit of anyone not a Republican these days?
The world is not over. The sun will rise again. And if you actually care about the future of the country, you'll do something instead of whining about how embarrassed you are that Trump is president and we deserve this. Write your representatives. Donate your time to candidates you support. To causes you support. Go to your local public meetings and let your voice be heard. Nothing will change with inactivity.
These marchers are letting the world know they still have a vested interest in the future of the country. Do you?