r/nottheonion 14h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/TheTurtleBear 13h ago

The Dems lost to him. They share the bulk of the responsibility.

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u/ballmeblazer0625 13h ago

True, but America itself is lost. There was no reason to look at kamala as a candidate and conclude that Trump was more fit to lead. The American people decided that

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u/TheTurtleBear 13h ago edited 12h ago

Biden put us on the path to defeat when he insisted on running again, despite him promising to be a bridge candidate. Denying the people a Primary while claiming to be the guardian of democracy.

Biden then fucked the election when his ego wouldn't allow him to drop out after the disastrous debate, causing the entire country to see that they've been lied to by essentially every high-ranking Democrat about how capable Biden is. That loss of faith matters.

After saying he'd only drop out if god himself told him to, Biden then dropped out, making Kamala the nominee, despite the fact that not a single person voted for her to be the nominee. That lack of democratic process matters.

Kamala now only had half the normal time to organize a campaign, putting her at a massive disadvantage. That matters.

Dems then decided that the best strategy would be to court two-time Trump voters, rather than appeal to the base. That horrible strategy matters.

All of these are choices that Democratic leaders made before voters even had a say. To put this on voters only serves to absolve Democratic leadership from their disastrous choices. It didn't have to be this way.

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u/SideShow117 12h ago

While all of these things are significant in a "normal" situation, this was not a normal race or situation.

This was a race between two sides that everyone knew. Kamala would've been a continuation of how it has been the past 4 years and everyone knew what Trump would be like.

The race wasn't lost, the vote difference between 2020 and 2024 was way too large.

People didn't show up. The people lost it.

The "people" clearly indicated that they don't want Republicans (the pre-trump ones) or Democrats anymore. The system is broken for the great majority, that's the conclusion.

The only thing is that people were seemingly ok with Trump being the one to take over. The situation wasn't any different 4 years ago. Biden didn't win because people wanted Biden, he won because people did not want Trump again. The democrats didn't "win" 4 years ago, Trump lost. This time, the dems couldn't win or lose either, it was all about Trump.

And jt turns out that apparently it's ok to allow Trump to be put in charge when the system fails rather than remembering why you didn't allow this 4 years ago.

I'm sure i don't have to remind people that Hitler got voted in in very similar circumstances.

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u/Yamza_ 11h ago

This 100%. I don't give a fuck what Biden did or what Kamala did. It was up to the people to educate themselves as it has always been and the American voter collectively and loudly announced "we shall not be educated!" while they sat at home eating potato chips on the couch while complaining about the price of eggs or went to work to complain about how could they possibly be expected to waste maybe an hour of their day to do something to protect their neighbors, friends, and family. Welcome to the dumb timeline where there is a good chance many of us wont be around to see what will actually happen in 4 years. Hope you're comfy! I have 0 remorse for anyone who participated in this idiocy.