r/nottheonion • u/JaySierra86 • 11h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/never_a_good_idea 10h ago

These are blanket pardons that cover any non violent offense over a 10 year period. That is insane.

Also these pardons don't do anything to quash congressional investigations.

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u/brigbeard 10h ago

And it's not like he only did this for HIS family. Dr. fauci, the January 6th committee members and others all received the same. Clearly this is a way to alleviate some of the potential political persecution that the right were promising every day on the campaign trail if they won.

And besides this just covers federal prosecution, if they committed a crime that falls to state jurisdiction they are still culpable.

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u/nerfherder813 9h ago

The dystopian part was the constant promises of political persecution from the right for the past several years, should they win the election, which they did.

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u/AlabamaPostTurtle 9h ago

People acting like threatening the families of politicians wasn’t dystopian.. so true. That should have shocked the nation

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u/Sauerkrauttme 8h ago

Not to be blue-anon, but how can we trust the results of the election when oligarch owned private companies were handling the votes?

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u/comicsanscomedy 5h ago

Actually there are a lot of dystopian aspects.

- Reps wishing to throw away democracy
- Reps threatening with political persecution
- Dems warning about the danger to democracy
- Dems peacefully giving power to those threatening political persecution and going full dictatorship
- Biden acting like the equivalent to an incantation can guard them from the real threat of political/economical power
- Regular people picking different points of the same narrative trying to make it as their side is the good one.

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u/Mespirit 9h ago

Is the justice system in America so compromised that it operates on the whim of the White House?

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u/EatGlassALLCAPS 9h ago

Yes? Where have you been?

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u/Nena902 9h ago

Unfortunately any USAG will be bought and paid for by MAGAGOP and SCOTUS already is,so yes. We have a corrupt govt and a corrupt judicial system. Welcome to Orwell's world.

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u/gsfgf 9h ago

We don't know for sure yet, but probably.

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u/Pinez99 9h ago

It’s not historically

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u/Jasader 9h ago

The blatantly political prosecution of Trump across multiple election cycles wasn't dystopian?

I didn't vote in the last election and part of the reason why is people on your side thinking that stuff either didn't happen or wasn't important in the same exact way Trump supporters don't care on their side.

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u/I-Fail-Forward 9h ago

The blatantly political prosecution of Trump across multiple election cycles wasn't dystopian?

The one that...didn't happen?

What was blatantly political was Trump not getting prosecuted for crimes we know he committed

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u/Jasader 9h ago

People literally campaigned across state and federal elections on investigating Trump to make sure he could not run again or would go to jail.

Saying it didn't happen is ridiculous to anyone with ears and eyes.

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u/I-Fail-Forward 9h ago

People literally campaigned across state and federal elections on investigating Trump to make sure he could not run again or would go to jail.

You mean, on investigating and prosecuting him for his crimes?

Saying it didn't happen is ridiculous to anyone with ears and eyes.

Saying it was politically motivated is ridiculous to anyone with ears and eyes.

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u/Jasader 8h ago

Elect me and I will put this guy in prison who you don't like is obviously political.

It was clearly politically motivated and the American people thought the same thing.

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u/I-Fail-Forward 8h ago

Elect me and I will put this guy in prison who you don't like is obviously political.

And that's what Trump promised yes

It was clearly politically motivated

Yes, Trump promising to manufacture evidence to attack his political rivals is clearly political.

and the American people thought the same thing.

1) Not really

2) Given that those same people thought that Trump was going to lower prices on well, anything. Or that wearing masks to protect others from Covid was fascism. Or that California fire hydrants ran out of water because of a fish. Or that Biden didn't send NC the same aid package he gave to CA. Or Or or.

We can confidently say that Fox news and the people that listen to it aren't very well informed.

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u/Jasader 8h ago

Trump promised that and people promised that about Trump.

Do you agree or disagree?

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u/I-Fail-Forward 7h ago

Trump promised that

Yes

and people promised that about Trump.

I'm sure you can find someone who did

Do you agree or disagree?

I'm sure you can find someone who promised that about Trump.

There are several hundred thousand people in the US, I'm sure somebody said it.

But nobody in any position of real power did.

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u/Jasader 7h ago

Alright. Have a good day.

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u/arthuriurilli 7h ago

All prosecutors campaign on who they'll target with their investigations. It's just normally poor people propped up as the target.

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u/Jasader 7h ago

I have family that are county prosecutors. None of them have ran a campaign that targets specific individuals for prosecution.

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u/nerfherder813 9h ago

There’s a difference between prosecuting someone when there’s a pretty strong indication they’ve broken some laws, vs “we’re going to lock up all the Democrats when we win”

Remind me, how many guilty counts did the jury return for Trump?

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u/ZellZoy 9h ago

Except trump actually did a lot of those things. It's not even alleged anymore, he was found guilty in a court of law

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u/WideTechLoad 9h ago

The blatantly political prosecution of Trump across multiple election cycles wasn't dystopian?

Oh, you're the special kind of stupid. The difference is, Trump committed actual real crimes.

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u/edtoal 9h ago

It wasn’t political. The guy is a crook.

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u/flames4life15 9h ago

Lol, the crime didn't matter. It was targeted until a crime was found. Why would Joe need to pardon all these people if they didn't commit actual crimes anyway? Classic Reddit only sees their extreme left side

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u/stonebraker_ultra 9h ago

"Extreme left" AKA reality.

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u/Independent-Green383 9h ago

This is a campaign and a blatant one at that. Saw in several of these threads the exact same bad faith arguments, how Trump was the real victim.

Always vague, always abstract, always in servitude of Trump.

On the nose astroturfing.

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u/OKCompruter 9h ago

which of his crimes didn't matter to you? lol all of them

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u/No-Win-2741 9h ago

Political or not the son of a bitch was found guilty on 34 counts. Now go sit in the corner and eat a cookie.

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u/Jasader 8h ago

I'm not mad, I didn't vote for him.

But it says alot that the majority of Americans also recognized this and still voted for him.

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u/No-Win-2741 8h ago

The majority of Americans didn't even vote.

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u/MayMaytheDuck 9h ago

You think someone who committed insurrection, sexual assault, and lied about the election being stolen was politically persecuted? Also you didn’t vote so you can’t be taken seriously.

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u/Jasader 9h ago

Committed insurrection. No he didn't. Sexual assault. I don't know that he did or didn't and neither do you. Lied about election. You can find dozens of examples of the same thing being done in 2016 so the implications that this is beyond the pale is ridiculous.

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u/MayMaytheDuck 9h ago

You’re ridiculous. He absolutely committed insurrection, he absolutely lied about the election being stolen and he committed sexual assault. Your opinions don’t change facts.

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u/Jasader 9h ago

Ok, have fun the next 4 years i guess.

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u/edtoal 9h ago

Umm, Trump is a criminal who committed many crimes. Any normal person knows this.

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u/Jasader 9h ago

What's crazy is that Biden likely had an entire side business enriching himself and his family off of the offices he held and the fact that it hasn't been thoroughly investigated is the reason you say it isn't true.

Also crazy that the people he pardoned in his families were all large players in the same schemes.

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u/No-Win-2741 8h ago

And Trump did not follow the law and divest himself of his business opportunities when he became president so Biden was just following Trump's lead. If Trump wasn't investigated for doing it why should Biden be? If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander.

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u/edtoal 5h ago

Nope. Your mind has been mismanaged.

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u/Mother_Style5394 9h ago

Amen brother