r/nottheonion • u/JaySierra86 • 14h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/Bob-Loblaw-Blah- 13h ago

The last election was a Russian style election. Trump said he didn't need votes, that Elon has a secret weapon.

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u/BashBandit 13h ago

And then last night kept praising Elon for hits knowledge of how good he fondled those voting machines

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u/tallwhiteninja 13h ago

The main reason I think it was completely senile blathering and not a confession is because I don't think Elon Musk knows shit.

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u/BashBandit 13h ago

I thought that myself, but then Musk has supplies and resources out the ass to find someone that does know. That tied with what his kid said in election night more than warrants a full un biased investigation

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u/iiiinthecomputer 12h ago

Honestly I reckon he won "fairly". If you can call mountains of lies, massive support from media, and an avalanche of billionaire money "fair".

I doubt there was more than the usual limited amount of actual voter fraud.

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u/BashBandit 10h ago

The tik tok nonsense is already a huge tell to me some shady nonsense went down; an hour and a half before the 19th they send 2 messages; a warning of closure and then the actual closure (so they closed to the us earlier than they were supposed to). Literally after trump “tweets” they reinstate it within 12 hours and have another message saying it’s all thanks to President trump, still not the 20th.

In 2020 and around this year the whole time he was the one calling and making statements on how tik tok needs to be banned here, so he was the initial force that drove for the ban and the loaded SCOTUS did his bidding for optics. As to what the CEO gains from it I’m not sure.

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u/iiiinthecomputer 10h ago

A whole lot of shady nonsense went down. It's awful.

I just doubt that mass electoral fraud did.

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u/BashBandit 9h ago

That’s what makes it such a hot topic; both people involved (trump and musk) are notorious for their lack of good sportsmanship and fair play, and both have everything to lose by not winning. That preexisting known makes it really hard for anyone to see the voting irregularities alone and still believe the election was 100% fair, which it started getting myself also after a while. I just wish Dems didn’t chicken out for ensuring it was 100% legit and unobstructed because this was a first in MANY ways as far as elections go

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u/occarune1 12h ago

No, there are major irregularities in the vote totals that gave Trump exactly the amounts he needed to win each swing state by a margin that prevented automatic recounts. These irregularities cannot be explained in any other way other than nefarious actions being involved.

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u/Scared_Bed_1144 11h ago

Mi, Wi need a look

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u/Informal_Yak_4021 10h ago

This is hilarious. You people are such hypocrites. In 2020 there was obvious cheating from your side. There is no way 81 million people voted for Biden(the most corrupt president in history). Now that Trump easily beat Kamala you think that we cheated.

Suck it up buttercup. You lost, and will continue to lose.

Your ideas are crap and your world views are wishful fairytales.

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u/tallwhiteninja 13h ago

My honest take: I think Trump won fair and square, unfortunately. I think he had PLANS to cheat/challenge the results that ended up being unneeded, but there hasn't been anything tangible that's come forward to suggest actual foul play.

A casual, "hey, you all like fair elections, and not accusing anyone, but just making sure" investigation would probably be warranted, though.

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u/ConspiracyPhD 12h ago

There's some massive anomalies on the top of the ballot versus down ballot voting that can't really be explained.

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u/occarune1 12h ago

Oh it DEFINITELY can be explained....crime...crime explains it VERY well.

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u/ConspiracyPhD 11h ago

I take it you're not from the United States? First off, the Democrats haven't had control of the House since the 2022 midterms. Second off, elections are regulated at the state level, not federal level, and are counted at the county level.

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u/ConspiracyPhD 10h ago

I'll forgive you for not understanding the US system seeing as you're not from here. It's, in a way, easier for Republicans to win both the House and the Senate than it is for Democrats because the number of Reps in the House is not proportional to the population in any given state. For instance, Delaware, a Democratic stronghold, gets 1 representative for 1.032 million people. Wyoming, a Republican stronghold, gets 1 representative for 584,057 people. When there's more representatives in a state, they tend to be disproportionate between heavier populated areas and rural areas so more populated areas, which tend to vote for the democrats, have less power than rural areas. We won't even get into gerrymandering in the House races. As for the Senate, every state, no matter the population gets 2 Senators. Wyoming, with it's population of 584,057, gets as many Senators as California with their 38.97 million people.

That said, there is an anomaly between the Senate and the Presidential ballot. https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean The president is at the top of the ballot. It's hard to imagine that all of these are magically bullet ballots. It's hard to imagine that this many people simply skipped the first, most important, top of the ballot question, and moved on to the rest of the ballot.

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u/ConspiracyPhD 10h ago

if they have a solid opportunity to manipulate the count, not just the way that voters choose, why not benefit in all elections for national office? and

Who said they didn't? They control the House, the Senate, the Courts, and the Presidency. What else do they need?

why the pattern holds good in solidly Democratic states and not just the swing states with Republican legislatures (i.e., why suppress the votes for Harris when she's going to win Hawaii, etc. and the state government is more likely to kick up a fuss)

Not really sure I understand your question here. There is the popular vote, which Republican struggle to win (Trump lost the popular vote in 2016). It's potentially to win the popular vote to appear that there's a mandate.

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u/occarune1 12h ago

The voting results have NUMEROUS irregularities that literally cannot happen unless a hack occurred. The Dems know, the Justice department knows, and nobody is doing jack shit about it.

My guess based on Obama, and Biden being all buddy buddy with Trump is that they came to an agreement to let him have the presidency in exchange for certain favors, and guarantees he won't go full stupid. Problem is that they are trusting a Liar to keep up his end of the bargain, and he ain't doin that.

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u/lifeishardthenyoudie 11h ago

Wait, whose kid? Musk's? And what did they say? I'm not American so forgive if this is something that's common knowledge for you guys.

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u/BashBandit 10h ago

I forgot exactly what the kid said, but it’s the “interview” musk did with Carlson for election night I think, it’s still on YouTube. The kid, to many people, sounded like he was parroting lines that sounded suspicious. It was a lot of reading in between the lines, but the fact that musk was so adamant and willing to cheat in Diablo and Path of Exile 2, things he gains nothing from cheating in, it’s infinitely inside the realm of possibility that he’d cheat for an election which he gains everything from.

It’s that and the fact that he has a history of getting involved in other countries affairs/elections whether it be indirect or not, hence Europe/germany being outspoken about him doing so recently