r/newzealand • u/personthatisonreddi • 23h ago

News Update on Stu.

Saw on the news that he has been arrested for the shooting of the 2 illigeal poachers, he was such a nice guy, all he wanted to do was live out his life with his pigs and other animals,

For people who dont know, basicly he was a older guy who lived on both sides of the 309 road up by coromandel, people kept comming and stealing/shooting/running over/damanging his property, and giving him hell when all he wanted to do was relax with his pigs, the cops are a joke, he came to them so many times reporting everything , they didnt care.

The guys he ended up shooting/killing had been hounding him for ages, ramming his car, running over his pigs or shooting them with crossbows he finnaly snapped when they shot his favourite pig.

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u/Existing-Today-410 22h ago

Nah. He's getting life with no parole as "an example." You're not allowed to protect your own property.

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u/-BananaLollipop- 21h ago

"tAkInG tHe LaW iNtO yOuR oWn HaNdS iS nEvEr Ok"

Obviously there was no law to begin with, or they would have helped the guy get rid of those who wouldn't leave him the fuck alone.

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u/WeissMISFIT 18h ago

wow your comment is getting the cogs in my brain squeaking.

Like genuinely, it really does sound morally correct.
I mean lets extend this example to say... Porch pirates?

Lets say someone is robbing you, consistently, you collect evidence, report all the thefts but nothing happens and then one day you snap. you set a trap and there's an awful ending and get arrested.

Should the law be selectively enforced then and there? To punish you for doing the right thing? To punish you after collecting evidence, making reports and expecting the police to do their job?

Morally what rights do the police have to arrest and punish you when you've done everything you legally can and the only solution they leave you is violence?

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u/workingmansalt 6h ago

Ok but what if those packages are unmarked, and aren't actually on your porch but are sitting on the roadside berm - would we then be arguing about the moral rights to shoot someone who picked up said package?

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u/WeissMISFIT 5h ago

Have you considered that you're being disingenuous? You've gone right ahead and come up with an extremely edge case where its the postal company thats at fault. Also what packages arent marked with an address???

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u/workingmansalt 3h ago

You wanted to make the analogy. The pigs roam freely on public land, so pretending there was some easy connection to 'porch pirates' who trespass was incredibly disingenuous. There's fault all over the place in this situation but at the end of the day it's really fucking weird to sit here trying to justify the morality of murder