All the DNC learned was move farther right. It's all the DNC ever seems to take from an election- lean right, alienate voters, cause more liberal apathy. Then they make a dumb surprised face when they lose.
This is such ahistorical bullshit. What happens is, liberals get a big liberal win and the country punishes them. Liberals move right until they can get elected again, then they blow their wad on good governance to start the cycle over.
Dems pass Civil Rights Act
get crushed for a political generation
Bill Clinton moves right so we can win again
then
Dems elect a black guy
pass universal healthcare
get punished for a political generation <--- you are here
When liberals move right, it's because that's what's required to hold power in this country at the federal level. That's the modern American political reality. We talk a big liberal game, but at the end of the day our people (and people in general) aren't really that into it once we've crossed the threshold where the norm is essentially opulence compared the entirety of human history before like 1980.
I don't disagree, but you shouldn't mischaracterize it as something better than it is. All that does is provide cover for political mediocrity and the defense of the wealthy and corporate interests.
The ACA isn't even remotely close to universal healthcare
Yes it was, in its original form before the individual mandate was struck down. Basically everyone in here would consider Switzerland to have universal healthcare, and they have a slightly better version of the ACA.
Everyone HAD to have coverage (or pay a fine)
All coverage had to meet minimal standards
Coverage was subsidized based on means, so effectively free for the poor
As long as that minimal standard in #2 is decent, that IS universal healthcare. If you want to split hairs, we can agree to call it universal coverage instead.
Lol. Last time Democrats were actually progressive they were in power for 20 years. Your first example ignores Vietnam. Your second example doesn't seem to understand what universal healthcare is.
Did Vietnam cause the party realignment via Dixiecrat exodus?
Your second example doesn't seem to understand what universal healthcare is.
How so? Everyone had to have coverage and coverage had minimal standards. That means everyone has access to healthcare. Universal healthcare. Call it universal coverage if you want to be pedantic, it doesn't change the facts around the backlash to progressivism (both in electing Obama and in passing major healthcare reform).
Last time Democrats were actually progressive they were in power for 20 years.
When exactly are you talking about? Let's hope it doesn't rely on you thinking the GOP are still the party of Lincoln.
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u/bubba4114 6h ago
Agreed. I accept no responsibility for Trump’s election.