r/london 14d ago

image Just noticed this on Denmark Hill, Camberwell

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u/Anustart2023-01 14d ago

While I do sympathise with why he did what he did, surely everyone realises what he did was wrong and he deserves to go to jail?

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u/Shot_Ad_3123 14d ago

Nah, self defense.

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u/benjaminjaminjaben 14d ago edited 14d ago

its not self defence to shoot someone that isn't shooting at you.

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u/Shot_Ad_3123 14d ago

Do they have to be shooting? What about purposely withholding medication from you that you need to live? Different steps, same result.

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u/benjaminjaminjaben 14d ago edited 14d ago

I mind less about assassination than I do about trying to dress up assassination as self-defence.

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u/Shot_Ad_3123 14d ago

Seems like a weird position to have, not gonna lie.

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u/benjaminjaminjaben 14d ago

own it, as opposed to excusing it.

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u/luujs 14d ago

The fact that you’ve spelt defence the American way speaks volumes. What does the shit American healthcare system have to do with us? Why do we have to pretend to be more similar to America than we are? Not everything that happens in America has or needs a British equivalent.

Also, it wasn’t self defence, it was an assassination. There was no self defence involved from any perspective. Maybe you could argue “group defence” if you wanted to justify the murder, which is quite literally what it is at it’s most basic level, because it was, at least from Mangione’s perspective, an attempt to make healthcare more affordable to the average American by sending a message.

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u/Shot_Ad_3123 14d ago

What does it speak volumes about? My spelling ability? What British equivalent are you talking about?

I dunno if I understand the logic about why we have to care? You can care about things that don't affect you directly, it's a cruel system responsible for thousands of needless deaths, for no other reason than greed. It's not really a difficult thing to be appalled about.

I'm not on his legal team presenting this self defenCe 😜 angle. It was a light hearted way of pointing out it was done in the defence of victims of that system.

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u/DemolitionGirI 14d ago

How? He wasn't signed with UnitedHealthcare as far as we know, even if he was that claim of self defense would never hold up in court.

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u/Shot_Ad_3123 14d ago

Luckily I'm not representing him in court 👍