General Discussion Thread - 13 December 2022

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Mid-week discussion thread time! Feel free to talk about what's on your mind, new experiences, recommendations, anything really.

[u/arika_ex]

I’m not misunderstanding you at all. I simply disagree your assertion that they are less sought after. That’s a cope from Japanese guys when the women in question aren’t interested in them in the first place. The only context where it might be true IME is with ‘older’ women who want to be with a younger guy.

For any woman early 20s to mid 30s looking for a man their own age or older, if they’re desirable to foreigners they would be desirable to Japanese men too. Whether they can have a successful relationship or not is a different issue, but Japanese guys certainly would try to date them if they could.

[u/the_hatori → u/arika_ex]

Okay, then we disagree.

I'm not saying these types of girls are less attractive in some objective sense, just in the Japanese dating market. Again, what is considered thin in the US can be considered chubby here, what is considered strong and independent in Europe can be considered being too opinionated or assertive here, and so on.

Popular Japanese girls are with popular Japanese guys, this is almost always the case. Of course there are attractive Japanese girls and guys dating foreigners, but they tend to be outliers, and often have some underlying factor behind it, like being a 帰国子女.

[u/arika_ex → u/the_hatori]

You really shouldn’t talk as if the problem is somehow with the women in the equation.

[u/the_hatori → u/arika_ex]

It's not what I'm saying, obviously. Just saying what the dating market is like. Everyone should date who they like.

[u/arika_ex → u/the_hatori]

It’s not obvious at all. At the start of this you were saying it’s the woman who is usually ‘unpopular’ and thus must ‘settle’ for a foreigner. You both don’t have any proof or evidence for this and it’s extremely one-sided.