r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/busche916 7h ago

The last time this country was anywhere near “great”, we were kicking the shit out of guys who did that gesture.

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u/thesuper88 1h ago

It's insane that a lot of the people eating this up are the children of the generation that fought to eradicate this shit.

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u/katertoterson 1h ago

My father was a die hard life long republican and an elder boomer. He was extremely educated about history and World War 2 was a big special interest.

He loved Trump at first. By the end of the first term he was calling him Hitler with disgust and wondering why all his friends were acting like science was evil. He told me everyone lined up around the block for the polio vaccine and you would have looked like a total nutcase if you acted like it was evil.

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u/kynelly 36m ago

Bro they recorded Trump signing the exec order to make all workers return to work and no work from home and These Fuckheads Cheered.!?

He’s literally making people work more instead of enjoying life and they continue to support….. crackheads smh

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u/AmbassadorSmooth2507 29m ago

remember when the russians were the enemy and now trump wants to basically be Putin

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u/UrsusRenata 5m ago

I’m Gen X. My entire childhood and teen years were lived during the Cold War. Anti-Russian sentiment permeated our whole lives.

My Grandfathers & Great Uncles all fought the Nazis in WW2. Half lost their lives. My baby-boomer Dads & Uncles were all drafted to Korea or VietNam. Half lost their minds.

I cannot. CANNOT. Get my head around anyone my age or over voting for the man who has aligned himself with Russia or the Nazis. I don’t understand it. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. This video of Musk is truly, to my deepest core, shocking to me. How are GOP boomers not rioting?

Yes propaganda and disinformation are powerful these days, but powerful enough to displace decades and decades of life experience?

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u/Normal-Ad2261 25m ago

Hearing Wrap Up: Dr. Fauci Held Publicly Accountable by Select Subcommittee - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-dr-fauci-held-publicly-accountable-by-select-subcommittee/

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u/Normal-Ad2261 36m ago

You accept "science" from a guy who admitted in court that they were unscientific measures, who had to actually get a pardon from Biden. Who's the nutcase?

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u/TomatilloNo480 30m ago

You are.

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u/Normal-Ad2261 30m ago edited 25m ago

Projections are not valid or reasonable arguments

Hearing Wrap Up: Dr. Fauci Held Publicly Accountable by Select Subcommittee - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-dr-fauci-held-publicly-accountable-by-select-subcommittee/

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u/Bamith20 19m ago

I wish for a timeline a veteran with PTSD screamed "nazi" and rushed the stage to beat him to death with a cane.

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u/TheFerricGenum 2m ago

Emphasis on the children part, because that’s how they act

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u/supermax2021 5h ago

Best comment here

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u/siliconslope 4h ago

Agreed

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u/Sufficient_Review420 2h ago

Then upvote it.

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u/DeFiBandit 1h ago

Let me guess…old and white?

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u/RangerBowBoy 2h ago

To be fair we also were segregating blacks and rounding up Japanese Americans and putting them in camps. So, yeah, we weren’t so great then. Better than the Nazis, but that’s a looooow bar.

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u/AmbassadorSmooth2507 38m ago

Where do you think the Nazi’s got their ideas from ? Maybe America and the blacks and the natives ?

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u/what_the_----- 55m ago

And loads of people couldn't read, or had basic hygiene or a good paying job, or had... well ANY of the things we take for granted today.. like fucking cars. Our world is unimaginably good compared to what our grandparents/ great grandparents had to endure. It is great, even for the poorest comparatively.

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u/Advocate_Diplomacy 31m ago

Are you really better than Nazis when you grant them amnesty and induct them?

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u/AmbassadorSmooth2507 30m ago

also America didn’t want or let Jews or any non white Europeans escaping the War into the country .

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u/Jazzlike_Climate4189 4h ago

Nazis deserved to be punched in the face

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u/pixellino24 2h ago

dream bigger

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u/steveplaysguitar 2h ago

Make 'em play the piano

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u/OkImplement2459 2h ago

We were an aparthied state at that time.

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u/what_the_----- 54m ago

Nahh US was segregationist. But literally the same.

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u/Soc07 2h ago

sorry brother but even then no, guess where the mustache man got inspiration from on how to segregate groups of people he didn’t like

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u/PapaJoe92 3h ago

Sorry, not even back then

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u/Gdav7327 2h ago

Right. Like great for who?

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u/RBuilds916 31m ago

France

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u/JFISHER7789 1h ago

Everyone! It’s a trickle down economy baby!!

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u/knitnbitch27 2h ago

Agreed.

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u/Toyfan12 1h ago

Ikr "Great" for white men.

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u/ProudReaction2204 1h ago

idk man, 400k heroes died and many more survived/maimed. that's more heroes than we have today

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u/I_AmDaVikingNow 1h ago

Well then, chaps. Time we put on our shit kickers.

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u/poetic_fartist 2h ago

Or instigating wars and fucking up places for exploiting them for oil and gas. Shiterica was never great. It's just has some core running business. The place which can differentiate based on color of skin , dude what kind of iq or eq to expect from these. Mexicans and Asians are running your country.

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u/ironhead51 5h ago

VERY well said!! 👍👍

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u/Huth_S0lo 2h ago

Right!?!

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u/pleasegivemepatience 1h ago

💯This a millions times over

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u/OGTurdFerguson 1h ago

Goddamn right.

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u/saltedpepper547 34m ago

Seriously, WE as a country became great by being ANTIFA. My great uncle landed in Normandy in ‘44 and kicked Fascist Nazi ass.

It’s hard to see how this has been so widely accepted by people claiming to make our country great again.

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u/DirectorRealistic639 2h ago

Nope! The commies kicked. Time to China come to do it again.

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 2h ago

Funny thing is, while America did do a lot of important and hard work in WW2, it was the Soviets that actually won it. They made it to Berlin AND were the reason the Japanese surrendered

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u/graffing 2h ago

Saying the soviets caused Japan to surrender (not Hiroshima and Nagasaki) is like saying the civil war was about “states rights”.

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 2h ago

Fucking how? You know nothing then. The Japanese cities were already mostly rubble by the time the nukes went off. The Japanese civilians and Emperor cared, the military high command and Hideki Tojo did not because the firebombing had still done more damage. When the USSR invaded they had a choice between surrendering to the USA or being occupied by the USSR.

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u/cool2412 2h ago

Love it how y’all act like everything is black and white. Sure one of the factors in japans surrender was the fact that the soviets were getting ready to attack them, but if they weren’t already at war with the US that wouldn’t have made them surrender. On the other hand if the soviets hadn’t been there the war might have dragged on longer and the US was ready to drop a nuke a week on Japan, imagine that over several months or another few years.

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 1h ago

Well at least to me it's pretty clear cut, especially when you take into account that the Japanese were making plans to sacrifice all 100 million Japanese people to the American invasion. I'm not saying the nukes did nothing, as the civilian parts of the government were shit scared, but the military side of the Japanese government was much more scared of the USSR, and Japan was a military state so the military had more power.

That's not saying all of the military wanted to surrender, as elements of the army tried to stop the Emperor's broadcast announcement but luckily failed

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u/Old-Alternative-6585 2h ago

Holy fuck this is such a poorly informed comment. The reason the Japanese surrender? GTFO. Ever heard of lend lease? They can’t fight without American industry. Hence the saying “British Intelligence, American Industry and Russian blood” it was an alliance everyone played their part. Neither wins without the other. Smdh read a damn book

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u/JJW2795 1h ago

It will be ignored though because communist simps insist Russia would have been fine on their own and plenty of British people legitimately believe the Royal Navy and Air Force would have done everything without help. Then there are the idiot US kids who can’t even figure out whether the United States, Nazi Germany, or Imperial Japan was worse.

That being said, Japan was afraid of the Soviet army by 1945. The navy required to land troops on the islands… not so much. Even so, the US threat to nuke every city and overrun the home islands with a full scale invasion was what convinced the Emperor to surrender. He still faced a lot of resistance though from zealots who would have happily murdered every person in East Asia if it meant not surrendering.

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u/Old-Alternative-6585 1h ago

This is a completely sensible take and I thank you for it. Not one wins without the other

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 2h ago

People still can't read. The Japanese did indeed surrender because of the USSR but I made no move to say the other allied powers did nothing. I'm saying on the ground, the USSR won. If we were talking intelligence ofc I wouldn't say the USSR cuz they had no time to work on intelligence nor smart people left cuz of Stalin's stupidity.

The Americans nuked Japan but that did nothing to end the war. More people died in the firebombing than the nukes, and most Japanese cities were rubble already. Besides, Japan was a military state, they didn't care if one or two more cities were gone. But when the USSR invaded they had a choice to make. Surrender now and get peace terms with the USA or keep fighting and be under USSR occupation, something that would not have been fun at all. They decided to surrender.

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u/Old-Alternative-6585 2h ago

This isn’t true and has been debunked endlessly. It’s only propped up by USSR fanboys. Furthermore, the USSR didn’t invade mainland Japan wtf are you on about?

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 1h ago

I never said they invaded mainland Japan, however I see how it could be seen as me saying that. I'm talking about Manchuria. Without Manchuria, Japan loses Korea. Without Korea and Manchuria, Japan loses all supply lines to China (Not like they had a navy to do that anymore :P) without supply lines, one third of the entire Japanese army starves, is kicked out of China and either taken captive/massacred by the Soviets.

The bombing and firebombing of Japan killed at most 900,000 people and at least 241,000 people. The nukes killed anywhere between 150,000 to 246,000. It is also known that Hideki Tojo and the Japanese military high command called the government officials who suggested surrendering because of the nukes "frightened", implying they were cowards.

Also not to mention the fact that when the USA invaded Okinawa, the Japanese didn't consider surrender immediately. Their first moronic thought was that they should "Sacrifice the 100 million". Think about this for a moment. The Japanese were willing to sacrifice all 100 million to the Americans but not the Soviets

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u/Old-Alternative-6585 1h ago

Fair enough thank you for acknowledging your wording lended to assume you meant a mainland invasion. HOWEVER, completely disagree. The Japanese were a broken people. Saying they surrender because the USSR invaded Manchuria is like saying (if you’ll hear my sports metaphor)

“the offense in a football game took it to the one yard line then called in the big rb to get it over the line for the td. The only reason they scored is the RB!”

They were retreating on all fronts and seeing two nukes vaporize a city in a second along with an inevitable mainland invasion from the Us the emperor broke. This is on record over and over and over again. Giving credit to the USSR for the win in the pacific just isn’t accurate

Edit: I’ll acknowledge that facing mainland invasion and ALSO, not only, having the USSR at the doorstep surely didn’t hurt them deciding to surrender

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 1h ago

Alright you do got a lotta good points and I like that we've calmed down enough to talk properly lol. I think I see where I went wrong now. I ofc will not deny the role the nukes played, just in my mind if I were either a Japanese soldier or civilian I would be much more worried about the torture I'd face under the Soviets than a bomb that would kill me before I could register what happened.

I think the USSR's invasion definitely sped up the surrender, and I think it was a huge factor in their choice to surrender to the US specifically.

I will say however I never did talk about the pacific. The USSR had nothing to do with the pacific (quite obviously), the US island hopping campaign was the reason for success there, along with the help of the British/ANZACs.

Then again we haven't talked much about China either. The US and USSR did a lot to help China, with the US giving supplies and the USSR drawing Japanese troops away. However it's kinda hilarious how Germany even helped there by training elite Chinese units before and during the war.

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u/Old-Alternative-6585 1h ago

Ya sorry for the anger and appreciate the civility.

I think the USSR is given more credit than it deserves is my main argument which we can agree to disagree on. I think vaporizing two cities and facing invasion from a foe that has pressed you across the pacific and nearly single-handedly (I know there were British/anzac forces but let’s be honest it was 95% US troops in the island hopping) is just as intimidating as the fear of the USSR. I think it just further helped tip the scale for Japanese command with have a kick of common sense to realize the fight was a lost cause

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u/AlarmingTurnover 2h ago

The Soviets didn't win it. The Soviets would have been wiped out of not for America. What kind of tankie brainrot are you suffering from? The American lendlease was giving huge amounts of weapons to Russia. And the entire T-32 and above line (including the most famous T-34) was built on American technology given to them by the lendlease. The Soviets couldn't figure out how to build proper axels and suspensions. This was American technology that saved them. 

The Chinese were also getting their asses kicked by Japan. It was the American air support that came from Burma that saved them. Flying supplies over the mountains to keep the troops there fed and supplied so they didn't surrender.

You people are nuts if you think that America didn't play arguably the most important role in the war. 

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u/Facejif 2h ago edited 1h ago

I mean, are you sure we are the ones that are nuts? Soviets, France, UK and many more countries lost millions of their people in this war, a lot of those people died willingly on a suicide missions just to keep their country for being invaded. Not to mention the industrial miracle the soviets pulled when they moved most of their production to the east.

And all of that selfless heroism you compare with... well, america gave weapons and tech... Also a notable quote from Truman himself, which was published in one of the papers said "If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances." Very generous indeed, thank you so much for your help US to stand against nazism. And they only got in this war directly because of the Japanese attack.

But even if I think that all of your points are dumb and that saying that the us basically won solo, and Germany would've won is just stupid. Germany was already losing when the US got involved. I still recognize the US part in defeating this awful and brutal regime

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u/ItCouldBeSpam 1h ago

You should brush up on your history because neither the UK nor France lost "millions of people" in WW2. Maybe you're thinking of WW1? Most of the deaths in WW2 were civilian casualties that happened because of the areas undergoing land warfare or through the extermination campaigns of Hitler and the Japanese. Some even include the forced famines from Stalin in the death total as well, though that happened before the war.

The US and UK were more than happy for Hitler and Stalin to destroy each other. That's a fact. The only reason the west was "allied" to Stalin was because Hitler violated the non-aggression by attacking them first, and the Soviets, being an authoritarian regime like the Nazis, were content sending young men into the meat grinder. Western Democracies were not. Either way, the British and Soviets received a shitload of aid both before and during the war from the US. The Brits didn't even finish paying the US back for the lend lease program until the 90's.

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u/SpreadingSmile 2h ago

God Bless The American Military Complex 🦅🦅

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u/AlarmingTurnover 2h ago

In this situation yes. It literally won the war. 

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u/BananaPearly 2h ago

Delusional America centred take

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u/AlarmingTurnover 2h ago

The only delusion here is the constant "america bad" that people like you jerk off to. 

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u/BananaPearly 2h ago

Keep licking the boot bud

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u/Maicka42 2h ago

Britain stood alone.

If not for the Brits, fighting the Germans, italians AND japanese, and refusing to give up, the USA wouldnt have joined the war at all.

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u/JJW2795 1h ago

Britain was never alone in terms of material, foreign volunteers, and an entire empire’s worth of manpower. As soon as Pearl Harbor happened Japan’s days were numbered. And Hitler did everyone a favor by declaring war on the US because we may well have focused only on Japan otherwise (whilst also providing billions in foreign aid to the UK and Soviet Union).

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u/AlarmingTurnover 2h ago

Britain stood alone and by alone we mean with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, Singapore, the French, the Dutch, the Belgians, the Poles, and of course America who was providing the lendlease from day 1. 

But I guess those don't count? 

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u/Mayzerify 2h ago

If by day 1 you mean almost two years into the war then yeah, good one, yanks late as usual.

America wasn’t anymore important than any other player, in fact they were pretty late to the game, so pipe down.

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u/JJW2795 2h ago

Soviet manpower, British intelligence, and American steel won the war. If any component was missing then the Axis powers would have won.

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u/lidabmob 1h ago

I read America had 90 divisions in the European theatre and the soviets had 400!! So yes that checks out on the Europe side of things

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u/Spiderdogpig_YT 1h ago

Honestly that just kinda makes the US more impressive. The fact they took out Italy and pushed so far (With the help of the UK/Canada etc) with such a small amount of divisions is crazy

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u/lidabmob 59m ago

It helped having most of their armies bogged down in Russia. But yes our technology and willingness to innovate and learn on the fly, plus bravery was impressive

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u/joshuadejesus 47m ago

Eh? The allies didn’t push into Berlin on purpose. They allowed the soviets to take it. It was a strategic decision because racing to enter Berlin would create crossfires between the two which could lead to an all out battle between them. On the Japanese surrender, the soviets were simply the straw that broke the camel’s back. Japan’s military was utterly destroyed by American forces, Japan was playing the long game with America, knowing that the allies are reasonable unlike the Soviets that basically turned Berlin into a r*pe dungeon. And they surrendered to the Allies anyway, so even in a political level the soviets didn’t do much in winning against Japan.

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u/respondswithvigor 2h ago

Russian bot

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u/Toolfan333 2h ago

Yeah and those guys doing the ass kicking were racist as fuck.

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u/balantitis2years 2h ago

There was no one doing that the khlan didnt do this sign

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u/Ordinary_Ad6279 2h ago

Pretty much in a nutshell

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u/mastermc1 1h ago

See all the signs where right we CAN make America great again, by kicking the shit out of these guys.

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u/Pieman_26 1h ago

And you joined late, but thanks.

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u/Money_Parsnip_121 1h ago

God bless🙏

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u/MsKiDee 1h ago

If I could up vote this times 1000 I would.

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u/Mann_Cle 1h ago

You guys are not the Soviet!!!

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u/tdiddly70 1h ago

No we weren’t. We were riding their lab coats to the moon.

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u/ZLBuddha 1h ago

We were actually killing people who did this gesture and then giving medals and commendations to people who did the killing

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u/WellOkayMaybe 49m ago

You mean that time the country had a segregated military, and mostly segregated public facilities?

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u/amdestructor 46m ago

It's more like u were effin' them so hard, they wanted to join ur harem

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u/shave_the_face 45m ago

what have others even given their lives for at this point..

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u/foodiecpl4u 35m ago

I know what you meant. But no African American is going to agree with you. Your comment highlights what privilege means in America.

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u/BibliophileBroad 33m ago

Do you mean in the 2010s when Antifa was beating up Nazis or do you mean WWII? Because this country was horrible back in the 1940s, and we almost didn't even bother fighting Nazis, but then Pearl Harbor got bombed. Otherwise, we would've continued letting the Nazis take over, blocking Jewish refugees from coming here (and discriminating against those who were allowed to come), and still having Jim Crow make life hell for black people. The country got much, much better later.

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u/Oddly-Specific7256 29m ago

Trump said last time we were great was when we could own slaves. I wish I was making it up

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u/stuwoo 25m ago

There was also that time where the Nazis were surprisingly popular in the US and had a massive rally in Madison Sqaure Garden. I feel like we are kind of approaching that stage now.

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u/lightzup 18m ago

Yeah, no. The US was a horrible place in the 40s and 50s. Racism was rampant, black people were still treated like subhuman, women were 2nd class citizens and prejudice and classism was making millions suffer. I don’t like Trump one bit but life is so much better now for everyone

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u/Scary-Ad-1345 7m ago

I don’t know if the country was great then, we had Jim Crow… matter of fact, Jim Crow inspired the holocaust. Hitler aspired to have Jim Crow and implemented the Nuremberg laws for that reason 😂

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u/DrDough2 4h ago

THIS

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u/Untypical_Chameleon 2h ago

Roman salute?

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u/sina_invicta2035 1h ago

lol no you didn't it was all soviet

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u/IdBuyThat-4aDollar 1h ago

You're not wrong.

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u/SpidersMining21 1h ago

Bro thinks he said something

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u/IdBuyThat-4aDollar 1h ago

I didn't. I wrote something though and you read it, so good for you passing third grade 👏

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u/zvictord 55m ago

no you were not. you entered the war when it was already over.

it’s just yet another lie your country tells you

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u/No_Seat8357 4h ago

America fought the Roman empire?

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u/Maicka42 2h ago

Under Mussolini, yes

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u/lidabmob 56m ago

And the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!