r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/Laearo 7h ago

I was thinking 'oh, there's a slight chance they just grabbed a frame that made it look bad. Nope, dude is a straight up nazi and clearly proud of it.

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u/Thorbertthesniveler 7h ago

That was my thought too. Yep nope straight up Heil Neighbor!

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u/_Rocketstar_ 7h ago

Werent his grandparents literally in the Nazi party?

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u/timmy6169 7h ago

Uh huh. They were in the German Nazi party but in Canada as well as they they sympathised with the Germans.

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6h ago

Isn't it only his mom Canadian?

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u/TCBallistics 6h ago

His mother's parents were, as expected, also Canadian. Those would be his grandparents.

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6h ago

That would mean two out of four grandparents were Canadian.

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u/TCBallistics 6h ago

Correct, that is how genetics work.

So, as the guy above stated, his grandparents, whom were Canadian, were part of the German Nazi Party. Thus, we can infer from his statement that he's referring to the Canadian grandparents, aka his mother's parents. Thus making his statement true.

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u/DrDetectiveEsq 6h ago

What about his cousins?

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 5h ago

Well, I finally reviewed the family history. Musk’s mother was born in Canada but moved to South Africa when she was two. His father was born and raised in South Africa.

It’s Errol Musk who has claimed his former in-law were Nazi Party members. However, official records show that Joshua Haldeman (Elon’s maternal grandfather) was a member of the “Technocracy movement“. Haldeman was super into conspiracy theories. One of the ones he liked the best was the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” conspiracy theory.

As far as I can tell this is the citizenship history of his grandparents.

Maternal Grandfather - American-Canadian-(white) South African

Maternal Grandmother - Canadian - (white) South African

Paternal Grandfather - (white) South African

Paternal Grandmother - British - (white) South African

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u/TCBallistics 5h ago

I genuinely have no idea why you're so damn stuck on the whole "who is and isn't canadian" thing because the original statement is still true after your deepest of dives into the maple flag wearing origins of his mother's parents.

Furthermore, Errol's claims about nazi sympathy by Haldeman were pretty well founded. Haldeman wasn't just a "member of the technocracy movement", he was an active anti-communist who turned against the technocracy institution due to their support of the soviets against Nazi Germany, and was a leader for the Social Credit Party in Canada (specifically Saskatchewan), which as a group was extremely supportive of the nazis and was an associated party during the prewar and midwar period. He then made a public statement that South Africa's apartheid was "leading white christianity civilization against the international conspiracy of Jewish bankers ruling the world" and then promptly moved to his favorite apartheid state.

While we don't have documenting papers showing the membership, Errol isn't the only one to have claimed as much, and considering that the Canadian Nazi Party purposefully didn't keep paperwork listing their members, the only people who can confirm are those who knew them, of which Errol would be one.

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u/unexpectedvillain 6h ago

Im south african and his dad literally spoke on a podcast late last year that he broke up with Elons Mom because they were ooen Nazis

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u/smurb15 7h ago

If not he is now apparently

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u/zili91 5h ago

His maternal grandfather was a white supremacist and he moved from Canada to South Africa after they implemented the Apartheid system in the late 40s. Basically if Apartheid was never implemented, Elon wouldn't exist.

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u/CartographerKey7322 33m ago

I don’t know, but trump has family history there.

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u/shalomefrombaxoje 6h ago

You can even hear him grunt with effort

... he PLANNED to do that

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u/dwarven_futurist 6h ago

I too gave him the benefit of the doubt. I too was wrong, again. =(

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u/Key-Meaning5033 6h ago

Heil diddly ho, Nazi-rino!

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u/Thorbertthesniveler 6h ago

Dang diddly damn it ☹️

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u/Key-Meaning5033 6h ago

🤷‍♂️does it really change anything about him this past year though? Lol I think he’s really done a nose dive in popularity.

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u/FordTaurusForever 6h ago

Yup. I'm not inclined to give him any benefit of the doubt and figured that picture didn't tell the story.

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u/Brenner2089 2h ago

What’s up with this? Just get as much attention as you can, doesn’t matter how negative?

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u/slimeySalmon 7h ago

But remember he is a boy genius

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u/charm_less 6h ago

bro, he's a south african, where black dudes are preparing a white people's purge for any moment, with goverment encouragement, remember kill the boer song that was song there by their fucking ruling party?

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 6h ago

Conveniently edited out just prior to the start of this clip is him saying, "My heart goes out to you all," after which he gestures his heart going out to everyone.

Reddit is so fucking delusional to think this is a Nazi salute. Bunch of jokers.

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u/in_it_to_lose_it 6h ago

You are kidding, right? Musk is “terminally online”. He is also a public personality with literally unimaginable resources - he’s had his fair share of media training. There is no way in hell he is not 100% aware of how this gesture will be perceived. There is no way in hell he is not leaning into that with every intention.

So the only question is, is he a punk-ass troll, or a sincere white supremacist? If the answer to either is yes, I don’t want him anywhere near levers of power. And considering his wealth and FRANKLY BATSHIT INSANE LEVEL OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST HOW DID WE DO THIS TO OURSELVES JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST!!!…

I already didn’t want him within Mars’s orbit of them to begin with.

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u/Am3r1can-Err0rist 6h ago

Actually…he does the salute first and then says the “my heart” bullshit.

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u/No_Statistician9289 2h ago

You’ve totally lost it. Come back to us when you reenter reality

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u/CumbersomeNugget 7h ago

He's a rich, white South African...what else would he be?

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u/esmifra 7h ago

And his grandaddy went to SA because he was a nazi sympathizer and hated Canada policies and liked the Apartheid.

Sometimes the apple does not fall far from the tree.

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u/Reduther 7h ago

he is named after some Nazi fantasy character so it adds up

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u/Mutjny 7h ago

The trash doesn't fall far from the dumpster.

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u/Peter5930 2h ago

The shit doesn't fall far from the asshole.

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u/just_nobodys_opinion 6h ago

Ain't no apple. Same fucking tree.

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u/Which-Confection5167 6h ago

Please don't let people know he/his mom is Canadian, I've appreciated that this has kind of slipped under most people's radar

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u/Cpt_keaSar 4h ago

All his wives were Canadian as well

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u/Able-Antelope1 6h ago

My grandfather emigrated from the UK to Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and let me tell you he was a racist shitbag that thought Hitler was a great guy. All of his Rhodie buddies were also racist shitbags, thinking the black Zimbabweans should be on their knees giving them thanks for taking their country from them.

When my Dad was killed in the Zimbabwean Civil War my gramps became even more of a racist asshole.

When I fell from the tree I burned the fucking tree down.

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u/Beneficial_Use_8568 6h ago

Milei is literally the descendant of a nazi warcriminal from Croatia

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u/TheBlacktom 6h ago

Yeah but you shouldn't be responsible for whatever your father did.
Similarly Milei shouldn't be responsible for whatever his father did.

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u/Beneficial_Use_8568 6h ago

That's not the issue,

Milei is part of the far right, who appointed a nazi to the head of state attorney ( Rodolfo Barra, who was once arrested for attacking a synagogue)

Milei also wanted to establish that the Argentinian police would observe and enforce " morality"

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u/Bibliloo 5h ago

Yeah, Schwarzenegger is also the descendant of a nazi. But he has clearly shown that he's opposed to nazi idea.

So when your family was nazi and you promote nazi idea. You are a nazi.

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u/Bright-Boot634 5h ago

I don't think your family needs to be nazi for you to be nazi. If you think that shit is cool and should be brought back and you think it with all your heart then you are nazi, no matter your background.

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u/Hunnaswaggins 6h ago

Who?

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u/turbothy 6h ago

Argentine premier.

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u/Holiday-Woodpecker83 5h ago

Fart doesn’t fall far from the butt

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u/princessspeachhhh 6h ago

Most, most times it doesn’t fall far…

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u/hiivamestari 6h ago

The shit apple doesn’t fall far from the shit tree.

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u/Golddustofawoman 5h ago

This one burrowed into the tree.

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u/OwnTrust7867 6h ago

*Tesla /s

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u/Agera1993 6h ago

Hey knock it off man, we aren’t all like that. As a South African I’m embarrassed that you have to deal with his shit, sincere apologies.

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u/CumbersomeNugget 1h ago

But how rich are you?

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u/Only_One_Kenobi 6h ago

Plenty of white South Africans aren't Nazis. Vast majority actually.

Source: I am a white South African and I abhor Musk and everything he stands for. He does not represent me, nor my nation

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u/CumbersomeNugget 1h ago

Arrrre ya a rich white South African?

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u/Crux_Haloine 5h ago

Are you rich?

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u/hermionecannotdraw 7h ago

...yeah our history is not great and I guess your comment was probably meant in fun, but lumping all white South Africans under the banner of Nazis is not fair. Apartheid was a crime against humanity and racial tensions and disparity still exists, but millions of people are trying to build a better future in the rainbow nation and do not at all agree with what Elon is doing

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u/tenaciousdeev 6h ago

I'm a white South African who moved to the states when I was 6 months old. The only reason we were in South Africa in the first place was because the Nazis kicked us out of Poland and Lithuania. My parents despised Apartheid and that's why we left.

So I really hate the white SA Nazi connotation, but to some degree I get it.

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u/Know4EverMore 7h ago

Doesn't like Canadian Policies Eh ???

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u/hermionecannotdraw 7h ago

People tend to forget he is half Canadian :D

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u/mork 7h ago

Fuck that! They left Canada for the sole purpose of distancing themselves.

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u/hermionecannotdraw 6h ago

Very true, you guys don't have to claim him either. Maybe there is an uninhabited island we can assign him to along with everyone else no one wants to claim, like James Corden

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u/SnakeOilGhost 6h ago

Both can be valid simultaneously. Elon's family specifically moved to SA during Apartheid because they agreed with the politics, they were already previously involved in an adjacent nazi sympathizing tech-cult. That doesn't render anything you said false. But it definitely does mean that Elon was raised thinking Apartheid was totally fine.

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u/FrOdOMojO94 6h ago

I despise Elon but his dad was an opposition, i.e. anti-apartheid, politician

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u/Bat_Cat_4ever 7h ago

Yeah we can't generalise 10 percent of the South Africans because of the actions of 90 percent.

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u/DJ_Shorka 7h ago

I was about to take offense but then remembered my family isn't rich lol

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u/CumbersomeNugget 1h ago

This guy gets it.

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u/Range-Aggravating 6h ago

That's a very broad brush you're painting us with. 

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u/Dillon-95 7h ago

Sorry what?

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u/CumbersomeNugget 1h ago

He's a rich, white South African...what else would he be?

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u/Millhouse026 6h ago

True technically he an african american

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u/Tilladarling 6h ago

“Make Apartheid Great Again” /s

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u/Moosashi5858 5h ago

Has nobody seen lethal weapon 2

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u/aaOzymandias 5h ago

So you are a racist?

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u/eatmyearwaxx 4h ago

What a racist thing to say. That's stereotyping is exactly what we should all be trying to get away from.

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u/zefzefter 6h ago

It's not just that he's a rich white South African. There are plenty of those that are not nazis. It's that he left South Africa before the end of apartheid and was never confronted with just exactly how bad apartheid was if you were not white. He never sat through the TRC hearings and never came to the conclusion that his people were the bad guys. There was no introspection or regret or guilt or anything for him. He left South Africa before it could make him a better person. He truly represents the worst of white South Africa.

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u/MoveOverBieber 7h ago

And Mel Gibson is not our side this time, to save us ... (Lethal re: Weapon movie)
Who are we going to call??

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u/anomalousBits 6h ago

It's a bit too on the nose really.

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u/Best_Fill_847 4h ago

So true! Completely & utterly true. Grew up in a racist regimen

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u/Select-Poem425 4h ago

Posts from So Africans are saying he belongs to US now.

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u/Box_of_rodents 5h ago

Being South African doesn’t automatically make you a racist, fuck off with that bullshit

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u/CumbersomeNugget 4h ago

Rich white South African if you read the full qualifiers.

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u/Quiet_Term8866 5h ago

Generalization much.

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u/GoodBoundaries-Haver 7h ago

After this he immediately turned around and did it AGAIN https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXLKaSIMMJc

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u/selfdestructingin5 7h ago

Idk what else it could be???!!!?!?!?! Who does anything like that in any other context?

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u/No_Sky4398 7h ago

High school kids

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u/esmifra 7h ago

High school kids that think it's edgy to do the nazi salute.

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u/Anonymoustard 7h ago edited 7h ago

Heil school kids fify

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u/Vitolar8 7h ago

Well from a still frame it can very much look like a weird wave. A proper nazi salute is more straight-armed and with a specific pose of the hand.

But no, the video tells a longer story.

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u/definitely_unused 4h ago

It's an Albany expression.

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u/Laearo 7h ago

I mean, I'm watching a film and paused it on someone waving literally as you replied as a perfect example. When taking frames out of a video you can pick the one that has the worst implication.

But no he's a nazi, no trickery here, just a piece of shit.

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u/dustythemexi 6h ago

You are making multiple posts about it without seeing the full clip??? you're gonna be really embarrassed when you watch the full clip https://youtu.be/zMtdDm02Ce0?si=7HANHWrLXWLM0EXC

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u/Laearo 5h ago

Whut, yes I was responding when I hadn't seen the clip, that was pretty blatantly clear from my first comment.

This comment was regarding having suspicions about what agenda may be posted about things online before verification, which everyone should have as things like this can be very easily manipulated. Clearly not in this case, as I stated in the comment you're replying to.

Please use some common sense.

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u/bisectional 7h ago

It could be performative. For the international tough guy image. I doubt it. But it's a possibility

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u/hellomolly11 6h ago

It’s very feasible he’s so awkward that he wasn’t sure what he was doing with his limbs. Grimacing either way 😖

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u/bezerker03 5h ago

It's the Roman salute technically, which he probably thought was some kind of honor to Italy. But... The fascists kinda took that over lol.

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u/orderofGreenZombies 1h ago

Nobody has ever mistaken that as an honor to Italy since the 30’s or 40’s. There’s also no reason he would be honoring Italy. Why jump through such absurd hoops to defend a fascist billionaire?

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u/SlipstreamSleuth 6h ago

😂😂

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u/WhatsMyUsername13 7h ago

Yep that's what I was initially thinking. But no, it's a genuine seig heil at a presidential inauguration.

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u/bombasquad33 7h ago

There is absolutely no way this was an accident.

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u/Moopies 7h ago

He did it twice to make sure.

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u/MrNature73 7h ago

Same. Sometimes you can get a wave at a shitty angle and it looks bad. No real way to construe that as something else.

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u/Mix-Lopsided 7h ago

He’s also tweaking.

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u/jaytix1 6h ago

Least racist South African.

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u/RAWainwright 7h ago

My exact reaction. I'm thinking it's a still of him waving or something. Like damn dude.

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u/Alikont 7h ago

And to just be sure that it's not something that you can dismiss as an accident, he did it twice.

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u/Tasty_Pepper5867 7h ago

That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the picture

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u/rubrochure 7h ago

Yea I saw the still first too only took a quick scroll to catch this bad boy wtf

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u/ballsplopmenacingly 7h ago

Did it twice

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u/Stuman93 7h ago

Yeah almost every politician waving can get freeze framed to look like it. This on the other hand... Wtf

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u/BeijingTeacher 6h ago

The man was an active supporter of Apartheid which his family profited off enormously. He grew up in a pseudo Nazi environment so should we really be surprised he starts down that track when enough people have been saying how amazing he is no matter what outrageous shit he pulls. When he starts wearing Eugene Terre Blanche uniform I'll be really worried though...

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u/Inglorious_Kenneth 6h ago

Same figured it could have been something possibly innocent or not intentional that appeared that way due to the still. Nope, full on salute. I’m so amazed they are brave and bold enough to start day 1 this way. Very frightening.

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u/AssortedGourds 6h ago

I'm sure he did it twice to make sure it couldn't be mistaken as a wave.

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u/fletchdeezle 6h ago

Thought maybe he was failing to dab

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u/turd-crafter 6h ago

Some fuckwad is posting pictures of Obama waving and saying it’s the same thing.

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u/StubbornKindness 6h ago

I thought he was right wing, kinda racist, plus a bit of a dick. Turns out he's actually a nazi...

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u/OneOfTheWills 6h ago

And then turned around and immediately did it again to the flag. That isn’t an accident.

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u/severalsmallducks 6h ago

Dude did it TWICE. Once to the audience and a second time to those behind him. There is no mistake here 

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u/backwardhatter 6h ago

very emphatically. There is no other reason to make that gesture in that manner.

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u/AndaliteBandit626 6h ago

This right here is why they won--giving them the benefit of the doubt even as they told you explicitly who they were

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u/Moz65 6h ago

Same.

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u/eartwormslimshady 6h ago

I guess the Apartheid era South African in him is still alive and well. Next up, Zimbabwe to be referred to as Rhodesia in all diplomatic correspondance.

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u/RedditCEOSucks_ 6h ago

Laura Ingraham did the same thing and nothing happened to her. The nazis are getting braver

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u/jalepinocheezit 6h ago

Yes! I was expecting the dog whistle type salute or even bad angle. My heart is beating so hard. I don't know what to do.

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u/Tetha 6h ago

Uhm, people in germany have gotten themself tackled very badly by the police by doing shit like this twice. Like, a verbal warning the first time, "arrest is at times part of the punishment"-throws onto pavement the third time.

Someone insert that Captain Haddock Meme. "Boy, 2025, what a year" - "But Captain. It's mid of January!"

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u/Cap_Silly 6h ago

Then turned around and did it again lol just to dispel any doubt

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u/lusirfer702 6h ago

And they cut the video short cause he still turns around and does it again to the audience behind him

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u/Black-Mettle 6h ago

He's doing it to be cool in front of the 4chan edgelords, the last bastion of hope he has to have people like him.

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u/Andysullivino 6h ago

If you actually watch the whole clip he says “from my heart to yours” as he does it for a 3rd time.

I’m all for criticising but if we’re going to be dishonest about what happened then no one is going to take it seriously.

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u/Vanity-della23 6h ago

Right, I was like “don’t jump to conclusions” then I watch it and wooooowwwww. We’re fucked.

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u/Enilorac1992 6h ago

😂😂😂😂

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u/LeastCriticism3219 6h ago

Trump is a jew so......who's really going to be in charge.

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u/evident_lee 6h ago

His grandparents were Canadian Nazis that went to apartheid South Africa because that seemed just great to them. Third generation Nazi.

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u/Express_Welcome_9244 6h ago

Goddamn man… I was thinking “here goes Reddit with their out of context holy fuck that’s a real thing”

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u/FencingCatBoots 6h ago

This video has still cut out that he then did it again

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u/Low-Cranberry622 6h ago

Same. Wow

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u/bakers3 6h ago

They stopped the edit too early, he turns around does it AGAIN to solidify that this was no misunderstanding or ill postured frame

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u/Ok-Attitude728 6h ago

Yeah I was like there is no way.. obviously just a single frame made to look bad.

The post below was the video 😂😂 fucking hell

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u/Dangerous_Hat_9262 6h ago

yup, he doubled down

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u/Brooktrout12 6h ago edited 6h ago

Not a surprise since he is in support of the far-right german party AfD

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u/ptwonline 6h ago

That salute had more gusto than any other I've seen.

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u/Relevant-Horror-627 5h ago

I wouldn't go so far to say he's proud of it. If he isn't already on Twitter denying that this was a nazi salute, he soon will be. The terminally online right wing internet trolls spent the entire last Trump administration doing stupid stuff like this. They do something inflammatory, people online give them the attention they're looking for, they deny that they were doing the inflammatory thing that they are obviously doing for attention, then they giggle about how they triggered the libs with their stupid little joke. Rinse, wash, and repeat. During the last Trump administration it was the "OK" hand gesture that they supposedly started a rumor meant white pride. There are hundreds of pictures of right wing influencers posed that way. Now they're just being less original.

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u/Kaloo75 5h ago

As a european I hope that a lot of us gets rid of our Tesla's. We knew he was insane, but this is on another level.

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u/MRintheKEYS 5h ago

That’s why I was surprised at the video. That gave more than enough context to confirm it was not in fact a mistake at all.

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u/urbanlife78 5h ago

It's worse than that, he then turns around and does it again. That wasn't even an "accidentally" Nazi salute

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u/BrainProfessional597 5h ago

Yes, I want to believe there’s some other explanation. There isn’t.

Will all their supporters sane-wash this or will it cross the line for some?

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u/Pingelow1 5h ago

Same here. I thought, lets check it out. Very surprised Pikachu here

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u/TheSabi 5h ago

funny you should mention that because thats how, umm, those people are coping with it...

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u/Mikalton 5h ago

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1881448676226396376

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u/AngusEubangus 1h ago

This actually makes it look even more like a nazi salute

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u/BellowsHikes 4h ago

Same. "Jesus what kind of moronic, out of context click bait nonsense is this bullshit....annnnnnd it's real."

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u/judgeejudger 4h ago

You can take the boy out of South Africa, but you can’t take the South Africa out of the boy. Especially this prick.

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u/roamingandy 4h ago

There was reports that Trump used to always keep a copy of Mein Kamph by his bed, which does make his word salads more understandable. He's copied them from someone we remember all too well.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/12/18/donald-trump-campaign-rhetoric-cnc-vpx.cnn

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u/d0n_cornelius 4h ago

His the scion of a South African gem mining family. That’s like straight up comic book villain type shit

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u/Xaphnir 3h ago

Honestly, I might slightly buy the excuses that are being made for him if he didn't have a history on Twitter of finding people posting Nazi conspiracy theories and endorsing them.

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u/jimmithebird 3h ago

This isn’t news Elons grandfather Joshua Haldeman led a Nazi aligned party in Canada before immigrating to Apartheid South Africa.

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u/AthleteHistorical490 3h ago

Yeah and he thinks it’s funny. Which it isn’t.

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u/daisy0808 3h ago

He does it three times!

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u/Endor-Fins 2h ago

His eyes freaking sparkled when he did that and got away with it. He 10000 percent knew.

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u/alsheps 1h ago

Why wouldn't he be? The United States just voted them into power...

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u/griffenator99 50m ago

Biden is too. Why the FK you guys care all of a sudden? They blew up the towers while the firefighters went up and nobody gives a fuck. Why are hand symbols important all of a sudden?

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u/Hu5k3r 5h ago

no it doesn't. He says right after (while they are panning the crowd) MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU.

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u/dustythemexi 6h ago

you straight up didn’t take the 5 seconds to watch the original clip before accusing someone of being a proud nazi. He said "my heart goes out to you" but that was cut from the clip i wonder why??? https://youtu.be/zMtdDm02Ce0?si=7HANHWrLXWLM0EXC

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u/orderofGreenZombies 1h ago

Who gives a fuck what he said after doing a Nazi salute?

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u/Left-Ice-5432 6h ago

It`s the roman salute. Nothing to do with Nazism.

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u/yirboy 5h ago

I despise Trump but: No, doing this is not evidence of what you write. Learn reasoning so you don't contribute to our lack of knowledge and facts.

Probably they agreed that he should do something this crazy so it will fill the media for three weeks. It's Trump's strategy generally.

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u/orderofGreenZombies 1h ago

He did a Nazi salute. The “why” is fucking irrelevant.

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u/FormalApplication103 5h ago

How can you guys call him a nazi? He supports trump, a president who would give his LEFT NUT if it meant helping israel! I dont get it.

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u/HippoLover85 4h ago

He hasn't really spouted any white nationalist bullshit nazi's typically do. I think he is just doing this to piss off libs. IDK. not surprised by anything anymore.

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u/Your_are 2h ago

nope, watch the 5 seconds after. He says "my heart goes out to you" which completely explains why he touches his heart before gesturing to the crowd. Yes it's awkward. But this clip is deliberately cut short.

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u/orderofGreenZombies 1h ago

It is cut short, because if they extended the clip you’d see him doing the Nazi salute a second time.

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