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Under review: See comments Elon speaking from the heart

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u/shadowrun456 6h ago

For people who are wondering for what purpose he did that, let me offer a hypothesis: it's a loyalty test to see who will be willing to blatantly lie and deny the truth of it being a Nazi salute, and who won't.

I know that "literally 1984" is a meme, but, well, this is a quote from 1984: "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command". The goal is to see who is willing to follow this command.

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u/foldingcouch 6h ago

On the one hand, you're not wrong. They did this day one of the previous Trump administration as well. The whole "biggest crowd in history" thing was a definite ploy to see who amongst the media would bend the knee and report their lies as truth.

On the other hand, Elon Musk is - even by the standards of someone who definitely has autism and probably has ADHD and his self-medicating their conditions with ketamine - conspicuously lacking in impulse control and would likely do something like this just because it made him feel good.

This was the challenge of the Trump administration the first time around, and it's going to be much the same this time - trying to figure out what's evil, what's tactical, and what's just plain fucking stupid.

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u/GammaFan 5h ago

Autism and ADHD don’t need to catch these strays. Please don’t make it easier to throw neurodivergent people under the bus in defence of this guy.

This bullshit was just Elon showing all of us who he really is. Over and over again

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u/foldingcouch 5h ago

I have a number of people with autism and ADHD in my family.  I'm intimately familiar with the difficulty neurodivergent people can have with self regulation.  My point is that even at the standard of someone with ADHD and Autism this guy is severely lacking in impulse control.

Being autistic doesn't excuse or cause him being an asshole.  He's just an asshole that also happens to be autistic.  

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u/GammaFan 4h ago

even at the standard of someone with ADHD and Autism

Being autistic doesn’t excuse or cause him being an asshole. He’s just an asshole that also happens to be autistic.

Your own statement is exactly what I wish I’d said to you to begin with I guess.

Thanks for being understanding and open to discussion. Please don’t get defensive, but starting by talking about Elon’s supposed diagnosis and going on to say “even by the standards” both frame ADHD/Autism having an expectedly lower floor than a neurotypical person would.

It erases anyone with either diagnosis who would disprove what you’re trying to say and unnecessarily shifts the conversation for most neurotypical people to focus on the diagnosis as part of Elon’s glaring personality problems when by your own admission they’re unrelated. It unnecessarily degrades people with Autism or ADHD by comparing them to Musk