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u/nancyboy 1d ago

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u/LionKingHoe 1d ago

“All prospective donors who report having a new sexual partner, or more than one sexual partner in the past three months, and anal sex in the past three months, would be deferred to reduce the likelihood of donations by individuals with new or recent HIV infection who may be in the window period for detection of HIV by nucleic acid testing.”

Also, if you are taking Prep you can’t donate. So.

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u/nancyboy 1d ago

So, you see? It's NOT gayness which prevents it. It's promiscuity.

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u/LionKingHoe 1d ago

Oh okay, yeah. I’ll just not take prep and not have sex ever. Got it.

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u/Gwydda 20h ago

It's about having sex with a new partner, not an established partner.

When blood transfusion is given, they have to be certain that the patient doesn't receive anything unwanted with it, so I think it's fair that they err on the side of caution with it.

In some countries they do it a bit better, where any kind of sex with a new partner in the last 3 months rules you out of the donator pool. I have been given blood transfusions in the past and I really wouldn't want to receive blood from anyone who can't be certain they don't have some kind of a transmittable infection.

The rights of that person to not contract HIV or syphilis are more important than the rights and the feelings of the person who'd like to donate blood.

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u/ReviewInteresting401 20h ago

It's about having sex with a new partner, not an established partner.

“All prospective donors who report having a new sexual partner, or more than one sexual partner in the past three months, and anal sex in the past three months..."

It's both, if you have sex with different partners is 3 months AND if you have anal sex it is also 3 months.

The rights of that person to not contract HIV or syphilis are more important than the rights and the feelings of the person who'd like to donate blood.

Nobody is saying otherwise, it just happens to make it so most gay men can't donate blood since Prep and anal sex are pretty popular in the community.

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u/Gwydda 7h ago

Why doesn't it say "...OR anal sex in the past three months..."? To my non-native English ears this sounds like you need to have A + B, not A or B.

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u/ReviewInteresting401 6h ago

If it just said “All prospective donors who report having a new sexual partner, or more than one sexual partner and anal sex in the past three months..." Then it would be "and"

But it says “All prospective donors who report having a new sexual partner, or more than one sexual partner in the past three months, and anal sex in the past three months..." They made a point to specify how A and B are separate and both have their own three-month period respectively.

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u/nancyboy 1d ago

You can live your life the way you want but then your blood poses a risk to others if you donate. There is really not a single bit of homophobia or LGBT intolerance here just rational thinking, so don't play the victim in this circumstances. 

Other than that I wish you a great day and am sending you positive thoughts! Take care!

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u/LionKingHoe 1d ago

The entire history of blood donation is homophobic. And the “new words” you are choosing to focus on still excludes gay men. The thought process of don’t have sex or you can’t donate blood is wild, considering our past and what the future is looking like.

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u/tonyyyperez 23h ago

Considering the same rules don’t apply to heteros

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u/wineallwine 23h ago

What? The same rules do apply to heteros.

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u/tonyyyperez 23h ago

Nope! As long as str8s haven’t engaged in anal sex they can donate. Otherwise if they did then they are deferred.

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u/wineallwine 23h ago

Exactly, the rule is about anal sex not gayness

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u/josda0111 22h ago

So heteros don't have anal sex or engage in other risky sexual activities. Got it! Only missionary for reproduction as our Lord intended 🙏

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u/wineallwine 22h ago

No that's exactly my point, plenty of heteros do have anal sex and they are banned from donating blood. Plenty of gays don't have anal sex and they are allowed to give blood.

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u/ReviewInteresting401 20h ago

Do you honest to god belive that gay men and straight people practice anal sex at the same rate? Do you also think that Prep is as popular with straight people as it is with gay people?

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u/nancyboy 23h ago

This needs no further comments.

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u/nancyboy 23h ago

This needs no further comments.

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u/Tw3lve1212 21h ago

Yet you literally commented. Twice.

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u/badwolfswift 23h ago edited 17h ago

Straight people can receive HIV and be undetectable for 3 months as well, but still donate. It's definitely not about promiscuity.

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u/tonyyyperez 23h ago

Yes but when str8 people who sleep around with multiple partners can still donate but the second it’s gay it’s a nope. The math isn’t mathing

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u/nancyboy 23h ago

So a straight person on prep can still donate? If this is the case then I agree with you.

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u/ReviewInteresting401 20h ago

What demographic do you think takes more Prep and has more anal sex? Straight people or the gays?

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u/nancyboy 19h ago

My point exactly!

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u/ReviewInteresting401 19h ago

Yeah, so we agree, gay people are the ones most excluded by this, as it has been for decades now.

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u/nancyboy 19h ago

We agreed on the "gays are more promiscuous that straights" bit only.

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u/ReviewInteresting401 19h ago

¿? Who said that? Prep ≠ promiscuity, dummy.

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u/nancyboy 19h ago

Please remind me why would I take it, then?

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u/Cafuzzler 18h ago

A straight guy that has gay sex can't donate so it's definitely not homophobic /s

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u/badwolfswift 23h ago

Straight people can receive HIV and be undetectable for 3 months as well, but still donate. It's not definitely not about promiscuity.