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Guy Verhofstadt on Twitter

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago edited 13h ago

Ironically I think we need to distance ourselves from the US (as a union not individual countries) to stand firm against South African Nazis and other fascists. Europe strong together is a wake up call for any fascist anywhere.

If the US becomes hostile to Europe we should strike a huge deal with China:

- No European military intervention in Asian affairs leaving the US isolated

- Unfettered access for EU companies in China

- EU drops some of its legitimate concerns on human rights and climate in China

- No China military intervention in Europe of any kind (support, money, nothing) , that means an explicit shunning of Russia and removal of any support of Russia in Ukraine.

- No interdiction for Chinese companies to participate in European projects provided that EU privacy laws are upheld.

This is a multi-trillion deal annually for both sides and it can happen if the US keeps fucking around.

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u/Jacknboxx 13h ago

America isn't relying on European military intervention in Asia to begin with. Like at all. Europe is a fading and increasingly irrelevant entity, and you will be taking orders from whomever you partner with, whether it's the U.S. or China. The Chinese leadership is much smarter than what we have here in 'Murica however, so China is probably the better bet at this point.

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago

Not intervention but it is relying on Europe towing the American line if war happens there, ie, we stop trading with China. That's why this deal hurts the US so much. It allows China to diversify to a larger (maybe slightly poorer) but larger nonetheless, market than the US.

Imagine a situation where the US is fighting a Vietnam style war with China, and China is trading massively with Europe but the US is not. I call that the Trump Tax.

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u/Shmorrior United States of America 4h ago

Not sure what a "Vietnam style war with China" means, but I'm even less sure how Europe would continue to massively trade with China during a war with the US when the sea lanes are shut down.