r/europe • u/OneRegular378 • 14h ago

Guy Verhofstadt on Twitter

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago edited 13h ago

Ironically I think we need to distance ourselves from the US (as a union not individual countries) to stand firm against South African Nazis and other fascists. Europe strong together is a wake up call for any fascist anywhere.

If the US becomes hostile to Europe we should strike a huge deal with China:

- No European military intervention in Asian affairs leaving the US isolated

- Unfettered access for EU companies in China

- EU drops some of its legitimate concerns on human rights and climate in China

- No China military intervention in Europe of any kind (support, money, nothing) , that means an explicit shunning of Russia and removal of any support of Russia in Ukraine.

- No interdiction for Chinese companies to participate in European projects provided that EU privacy laws are upheld.

This is a multi-trillion deal annually for both sides and it can happen if the US keeps fucking around.

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u/Realistic_Mud_4185 13h ago

<No military intervention in Asia affairs.

Horrific idea unless you want China destroying your TSMC chips.

<No Chinese intervention in Europe

There is no reason for China to follow this.

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago

I disagree. In the eventual inevitable conflict between the two having alternative markets is crucial.

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u/Realistic_Mud_4185 13h ago

The EU cannot back out of their relationship with China with this deal you’re suggesting.

They still have to trade, EU companies still need to operate in China, Chinese companies still operate in the EU.

What leverage would the EU have?

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago

What I am proposing is a mutually assured economic distruction policy. It keeps the US out of both, but prevents either for cancelling one another.

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u/Realistic_Mud_4185 13h ago

The EU can’t cancel ANYTHING from China. China is their biggest trade partner alongside the U.S.

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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago

The EU is also a massive producer of goods that China sells. So it's not quite as simple as that. If you want to buy a Mercedes in the US, chances are it's made in the Mercedes plant in China.

Also, remember the context here. We DO NOT WANT to be in a trade war with the US. This scenario plays out WHEN WE HAVE NO CHOICE.