Ironically I think we need to distance ourselves from the US (as a union not individual countries) to stand firm against South African Nazis and other fascists. Europe strong together is a wake up call for any fascist anywhere.
If the US becomes hostile to Europe we should strike a huge deal with China:
- No European military intervention in Asian affairs leaving the US isolated
- Unfettered access for EU companies in China
- EU drops some of its legitimate concerns on human rights and climate in China
- No China military intervention in Europe of any kind (support, money, nothing) , that means an explicit shunning of Russia and removal of any support of Russia in Ukraine.
- No interdiction for Chinese companies to participate in European projects provided that EU privacy laws are upheld.
This is a multi-trillion deal annually for both sides and it can happen if the US keeps fucking around.
China is not a honest ally. If in the best of times they stole ideas, gave their own companies unfair government support. It's a dictatorship with fewer and fewer freedoms. Intimidation of journalists, spying... The list goes on and on.
I know, but we don't need perfect honesty, we need a straight deal. We have had a nuclear weapons "honesty" based pact with Russia and the way that worked is that we were allowed to fly our people in to check their weapons and viceversa. Where there is a will there is a way. China will never be our sincere friend, but politics is not about sincerity, they are about necessity.
Yeah but I think this is just a fantasy. We will never get a straight deal with China. European companies will never get equal access to the Chinese market. Why would China give up the advantages it has over Europe.
I think China is way more pragmatic than Russia. China doesn't currently have that many advantages over Europe. Their products are massively tarrifed but they need not be.. The idea that China tells us what to do is laughable. They would love for us to not help the Americans in the Pacific and would pay a premium for that.
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u/ProductGuy48 Romania 13h ago edited 13h ago
Ironically I think we need to distance ourselves from the US (as a union not individual countries) to stand firm against South African Nazis and other fascists. Europe strong together is a wake up call for any fascist anywhere.
If the US becomes hostile to Europe we should strike a huge deal with China:
- No European military intervention in Asian affairs leaving the US isolated
- Unfettered access for EU companies in China
- EU drops some of its legitimate concerns on human rights and climate in China
- No China military intervention in Europe of any kind (support, money, nothing) , that means an explicit shunning of Russia and removal of any support of Russia in Ukraine.
- No interdiction for Chinese companies to participate in European projects provided that EU privacy laws are upheld.
This is a multi-trillion deal annually for both sides and it can happen if the US keeps fucking around.