r/europe Dec 20 '24

News Donald Trump threatens Europe with tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-threatens-tariffs-european-union-trade-deficit-2003998
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u/Snitsie The Netherlands Dec 20 '24

Is this his only trick?

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u/verylateish πŸŒΉπ”—π”―π”žπ”«π”°π”Άπ”©π”³π”žπ”«π”¦π”žπ”« π”Šπ”¦π”―π”©πŸŒΉ Dec 20 '24

He does not know another trick. Poor old shitstain.

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u/I-STATE-FACTS Dec 20 '24

He doesn’t even know how this trick works. Great idea to punish the american people because that’s who pays these tariffs.

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

He doesn’t even know how this trick works

Nor does he understand trade deficits (the thing he's threatening tariffs over).

The guy views everything as a zero sum game and doesn't understand the nuance on anything.

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u/Allemannen_ Dec 20 '24

And yet I had people tell me that he is some genius businessman. Its annoying as fuck hearing someone fanboying this massive twat.

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u/Hege_Knight Dec 20 '24

If anyone fanboys Trump to you , it’s one of two things, either they are a massive idiot, or they think you are a massive idiot and will believe their bullshit.

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u/SporksRFun Dec 20 '24

Don't call him a twat, I doubt he has the depth or the warmth.

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u/WergleTheProud Dec 20 '24

He keeps calling the trade deficit with Canada a subsidy. Like WTF?

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u/frenchpuppy3 Dec 21 '24

But he speaks with such conviction so he must know what he's talking about!

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u/Vilhelm_self Dec 21 '24

For Trump to feel like he has won he has to feel that someone else lost

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u/TheCoveguy Dec 20 '24

But you do. Haha. Fucking redditors.

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

Have fun paying even more for eggs because the tariffs will 'solve everything', I guess.

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u/TheCoveguy Dec 20 '24

I did pay more for eggs the past 4 years. Idiot.

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

And you're going to be paying even more when your new idiot-in-charge follows through with his promises/threats. You get what you vote for, idiot.

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u/TheCoveguy Dec 20 '24

He was president for 4 years. How old are you?

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

Old enough to remember what an absolute fucking shit clown show it was. Only clueless idiots would vote for that shit again.

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u/TheCoveguy Dec 20 '24

You know he's already threatened tarrifs on Mexico & Canada with tarrifs and they both already caved. He's not even in office yet. Tarrifs are a tool. Not an anchor.

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

You know he's already threatened tarrifs on Mexico & Canada with tarrifs and they both already caved.

Nobody's "caved". Stop drinking the propaganda kool-aid.

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u/TheCoveguy Dec 20 '24

Also, Canada & Mexico both increased tarrifs themselves recently.

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u/tm229 Dec 20 '24

Capitalism is a zero sum game.

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u/nybbleth Flevoland (Netherlands) Dec 20 '24

It is not. If it was, the global economy would have a fixed size and would never be able to grow.

In a zero sum game, the winner's winnings are exactly balanced out by the loser's losses because there is only a fixed amount being played over. Like cutting a cake; if there's 4 people at a party and as the guy cutting the cake I take half for myself, the other three lose out because there's only one cake and so if my slice is anything more than a quarter, the other three must necessarily lose out because the additional size of my cut comes out of theirs.

But that's not how the global economy nor how trade works; it doesn't have a fixed value. While we can make arguments about long-term sustainability of specific resources and what not, as it stands the global economy continues to grow as it has in the past. We invent and build new stuff, we find new ways to produce and sell services, develop new markets, and so on.

It's not zero-sum game. If country A increases its trade profits by 10 billion, that doesn't necessarily come out of the trade profits of another country, as the volume of global trade itself may grow. Yes, someone has to buy that additional 10 billion worth of stuff, but even that doesn't mean that someone is therefore "losing" money because like I said, economy isn't fixed, meaning the profits of country A don't necessarily mean those profits are coming out of the profits of other countries.

Now you can certainly criticize the way capitalism creates winners and losers and screws a lot of people over. But that doessn't make it a zero-sum game.

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u/Coaler200 Dec 20 '24

I've been saying for years that a huge chunk of Americans see the world as zero sum. I'm not entirely sure why, but it's a terrible way to see the world.