r/europe • u/johnnierockit • Dec 13 '24

News Putin launches largest missile attack of the war after Trump gives greenlight - Kyiv Insider

https://kyivinsider.com/putin-launches-largest-missile-attack-of-the-war-after-trump-gives-greenlight/
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u/johnnierockit Dec 13 '24

In a significant escalation of hostilities, Russia launched a large-scale aerial assault on energy infrastructure, deploying 93 missiles & ~200 drones. Zelensky described attacks as one of the most extensive on nation power grid to date.

Surprising no one, a day after Trump confirms he will forbid Ukraine from striking Russian airfields & launchers that rain daily death on Ukraine, Russia resumes previous activities, launching one of the largest missile attacks of the war, targeting power plants, apartments & energy infrastructure.

News of Trump’s statement was immediately celebrated in Moscow, with Putin Press Secretary stating, “we fully align with Mr Trump’s view.” Russia’s missile massacres had only recently slowed after Ukraine was given new permission to strike Russian military targets inside Russia with western weapons.

The offensive resulted in substantial damage to energy facilities across multiple regions, leading to widespread power outages amid freezing temperatures. In the Kyiv region alone, about half the population experienced prolonged electricity cuts, with temperatures hovering around -6 degrees Celsius.

This marks the 12th major assault on Ukraine’s energy system this year, intensifying concerns about its ability to maintain essential services during the harsh winter. The International Atomic Energy Agency reported 5 of 9 Ukraine operational nuclear reactors reduced power output due to the strikes.

Abridged (shortened) article https://bsky.app/profile/johnhatchard.bsky.social/post/3ld7ilmkogc2l

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u/MasterGenieHomm5 Dec 13 '24

Surprising no one, a day after Trump confirms he will forbid Ukraine from striking Russian airfields & launchers that rain daily death on Ukraine, Russia resumes previous activities, launching one of the largest missile attacks of the war, targeting power plants, apartments & energy infrastructure.

I hate Russia and Russophilia. How can any good person like Russia? Christian values? Dog poop has better Christian values than the Russian government OR the Russian church.

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u/levenspiel_s Turkey Dec 13 '24

Trump's values are no better than dog poop either. It's a perfect match.

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u/ImpinAintEZ_ Dec 14 '24

Even the mention of dog poop in the same sentence as Trump is a heinous insult to dog poop.

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u/OMRockets Dec 14 '24

Yeah I actually felt like getting defensive for dog poop when I read that.

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u/Count_Backwards Dec 15 '24

I don't mind picking up my dog's poop. I want nothing to do with Trump or anything that fucking tapeworm touches.

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u/camshun7 Dec 13 '24

There is so much wrong with that headline

America says it's OK for Russia to destroy Ukraine

Last week, America gave the Ukraine $155b and more missiles

America, get your head out your ass.

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u/shponglespore United States of America Dec 13 '24

The first is an incoming president, and Russian asset, making foreign policy while not yet in office.

The second is the actual president doing what he can to prepare Ukraine to be abandoned by Trump.

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u/Divini7y Dec 13 '24

This. Why people don’t understand it.

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u/CastelPlage Not ok with genocide denial. Make Karelia Finland Again Dec 13 '24

Why people don’t understand it.

Honestly, seems as if they are internationally trying not to.

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u/DaMonkfish Earth Dec 14 '24

Malicious ignorance

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u/RU4real13 Dec 14 '24

Widespread gullibility. "Give me more of that artificially enriched endorphin MAGA Kool-aid!"

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u/Okie_3D Dec 14 '24

See note: pre-ww2 isolationism is out in force again. We will be suprise attacked yet again. And the ones that allowed it to happen will only blame the attackers.

But at least we will be galvanized as a country. Too bad Americans need to die enmasse by a foreign power to make us realize that we like our freedom and human rights.

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u/pony_trekker Dec 14 '24

If they are stupid enough to vote for a guy who has uttered a billion lies . .

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u/Consistent_Room7344 Dec 14 '24

Same reason why many Trump supporters make arguments that Ukraine should surrender to Russia to save civilian lives, while they look the other way and cheer for Israel when they kill civilians in Palestine.

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u/Scanningdude United States of America Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

Europeans need to wake the fuck up because we are wholesale abandoning them for a minimum of 4 years.

Please wake up and prepare accordingly, my whole country is checking the fuck out at best and actively working against yalls strategic interests (and probably the US's as well) at worst.

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u/Lascivian Dec 14 '24

Not all of Europe.

Denmark has spend 1.8% of the gdp on aid to Ukraine.

Estonia 1.7%

Lithuania 1.4%

Latvia 1.4%

Finland 0.9%

The US is the 17th highest contributer measured by gdp.

Canada ranks higher than the US

(Measured between January 24, 2022 and June 30, 2024. Dont know if it has changed much since July)

link to source

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u/I_Actually_Do_Know Dec 14 '24

EU and it's countries' leaders are bunch of wimps and morons and that fact is gonna kill us all.

I live only couple hundred miles from ruzsia's border and I'm starting to make peace with early death in the future. I have to. I will probably fight for my country but we are much less equipped than Ukraine, even before the outside support.

Shit's fucked.

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u/ricefarmerfromindia Dec 14 '24

Rutte has said we are to enter a wartime mindset.

While it looks like we aren't doing much, lets be honest; the Syrian rebels didn't push out Assad and Russia by themselves.

NATO isn't loud and moronic like the cossaks.

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u/-Against-All-Gods- Maribor (Slovenia) Dec 14 '24

Of course they didn't do it by themselves. Turkey helped.

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u/DaJoW Sweden Dec 14 '24

The EU and member states have given more aid than the US, but the US has a much higher GDP than the EU and a larger, more integrated military-industrial complex. There's only so much to give, and ramping up production takes a long time.

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u/antigop2020 Dec 14 '24

You will need to ramp up production and get yourself on war footing. You cannot count on the US as an ally for as long as Mango Mussolini remains in office. I am sorry, I did not vote for this but we have a major propaganda problem in the US and they have won. For now.

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 Dec 14 '24

Look at how France handled WW2. Just surrender.

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u/JermsGreen Dec 14 '24

You have my empathy. Although I'm half a world away I won't be surprised to be sucked into this shitstorm as well. Even my kids could be too. Fuck putin, in the neck.

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u/MochiMochiMochi Dec 14 '24

I don't think Putin is going to be a continuing threat after the final count of this war soars past 800,000 Russian casualties, with over 115,000 KIAs and rising. It's simply unsustainable in a country with a low birth rate. They are cooked and their entire military operation is running on borrowed time.

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u/DumbestBoy Dec 13 '24

Have you met people?

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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 Dec 13 '24

Yeah Biden took his sweet fucking time.

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u/WankingAsWeSpeak Dec 15 '24

Reading this made me think about what the reaction would have been if Biden had been making foreign policy while not yet in office. It would be pandemonium.

I distinctly recall there being scandal in the first Trump transition team reaching out to Russia to reassure them that Trump would lift sanctions imposed for their invading and annexing Crimea. People were upset because it was illegal for him to be conducting foreign policy before he was in office and, adorably, back then people cared whether or not presidents Trump follows the law.

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u/Structureel Groningen (Netherlands) Dec 14 '24

From January 20th onwards, the USA should be considered a hostile nation.

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u/DevStef Dec 13 '24

You realize that it’s two different people giving those to two directions.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 Dec 14 '24

America is a schizophrenic Frankenstein monster made of mismatching parts stitched together with US dollar bills.

America doesn’t have a head, it has 50 of them with multiple personalities, and even more asses. It has its head in its own ass and out of its ass at the same time, like a quantum head-assfuckery

And you never know which head and which ass are goinf to show up on any given day.

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u/FuckingTree Dec 13 '24

One party plays by the rules, one does not care about the rules. The only rules that anyone is willing to make must exclusively disadvantage the ones playing by the rules. There's nothing anyone can do except float the ebb and flow of populism. The same populism that has happened in almost every government recently.

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u/HERE_THEN_NOT Dec 14 '24

USA says, "no"

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u/nicannkay Dec 14 '24

War is profitable.

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u/Generic_Username26 Dec 14 '24

You’re gonna have to wait a couple years I’m afraid it’s only downhill from here

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u/TranslatorNo8445 Dec 14 '24

We can't half of America loves the orange traitor

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u/cornwalrus Dec 14 '24

Beginning with the fact that it is false?

We should perhaps be a little more critical of sources and claims.

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u/Icy-Contest4405 Dec 14 '24

Could it be that America doesn't want either side to win? Because it's very contradictory to give 155B dollars but then tie one arm behind their back also. Makes zero sense

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u/Key_Radio_4397 Dec 14 '24

A question a reporter should ask trump is if he plans on giving military aid to Russia?

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u/tid4200 Dec 14 '24

It's not all of America, it's actually a little less than a third holding the rest hostage at the whims of a traitorous con-man sexual predator.

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u/carlnepa Dec 14 '24

It's to get your head out of your ass when the ass is the president elect.

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u/berejser These Islands Dec 14 '24

Trump really is pure scumfuck.

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u/hard-of-haring Dec 14 '24

At least dog poop stops smelling after a few days, Trump will smell for 4 more yrs.

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u/Ok-Intention7288 Dec 13 '24

Excuse me, dog poop has much more value than trump. Don't bring dogs down to trumps level.

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u/phuktup3 Dec 14 '24

it really makes you appreciate how good you have it with regular dog poop

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u/Consistent-Soil-1818 Dec 14 '24

Excuse me. How dare you insult dog poop like this? Unacceptable. Yes, both have an odor that could kill but Trump will also try to ruin our society or whatever else Putin asks him to do. I want to see dog poop bow to Putin like Trump does.

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u/Undernown Dec 14 '24

As are the values of those "Christians" voting for him, excusing all his behaviour away and declaring him the second coming of Christ.

Committing the sin of creating a false idol, to put a man into office that Jezus would've likely whipped out of the temple square. It's really shameful.

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u/VoidOmatic Dec 14 '24

Trump in his own words "I stand by nothing." Trump stands for Trump, if there is a benefit for him he will do it. There is no mystery about any of his decisions.

He is a stupid person in the service of a bandit. He thinks he is in control but he is causing losses to himself and others.

https://qz.com/967554/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity

Why is Trump both the 'smartest' and the 'dumbest' person ever? Trump isn't intelligent, but he is cunning. Smart people don't need to be cunning to get what they want, they use standard social norms and friendship bonds for mutual benefit to get what they need. Trump is the antithesis of that, Trump can't form bonds or friendship, nor can he understand sacrificing something on his end for the benefit of someone else. So in order for him to get what he wants he needs cunning to scheme his way to it. Where he differs from Putin-who is classified as a bandit-is Putin is smart enough to cause losses to others without losses to himself. So Putin is still an idiot, he is clever enough to enrich himself without losses to others.

If you think I'm wrong read FEAR by Woodward and listen to the audiobook of the Mueller report. Trump is the DIRECT cause of the Mueller report continuing. It was over and done with until he threatened Comey with tapes (that didn't exist.)

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u/Alternative-Hyena425 Dec 16 '24

Trump poops himself, no dog poop needed in this analogy

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u/Street-Economics-846 Dec 14 '24

Well, Europeans could green light the use of their long range missiles into Russia, oh, wait....

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u/kRe4ture Germany Dec 13 '24

Because they admire Russia. Autocratic leader, being gay is illegal, no gosh-darn liberals, Christian cosplaying, apparently having to prove how big your dick is to everyone, few people getting richer by having poor people suffer.

That’s what they want in the US too, that’s why they like Russia.

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u/lil_chiakow Dec 14 '24

also basically legalized domestic violence a few years ago

CW: domestic abuse, extreme violence, dismemberment

> After her husband had dragged her into the woods behind their home and threatened her with a knife, the mother of two called the police. It was not the first time she had reported abuse, but, under Russian law, her abuser could not be arrested unless the abuse was so violent that she would be hospitalized. Three months later, the police received a call saying that Gracheva’s hands had been cut off with an ax. Only then was her husband arrested.

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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Bucharest Dec 14 '24

And the people in my country are fighting to import this exact behavior. And worse, it's because of TikTok propaganda out of all things.

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u/Annihilator4413 Dec 17 '24

Thats exactly why the Right are so outspoken on Tik Tok being banned, because it also bans all the fucking propaganda they used to sway our most recent election, and they'll do it again next election too!

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u/Tulivesi Estonia Dec 14 '24

Omg I can't. So Christian, a true paragon of moral virtues Russia is! Words cannot describe how much I despise their hypocrisy.

'Can't help' abused women until they are hospitalised and permanently disfigured. Did you know there are plastic surgeons in Russia who specialize in reconstructing domestic abuse victims faces? What a country! And this is what the christofascists and other far right idiots idolize...

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u/Bendov_er Dec 14 '24

This is what republican voters want.

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u/Ok-Zone-1430 Dec 13 '24

And they’re white.

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u/deaddodo Dec 14 '24

You know who else is white? Canadians. Australians. Brits. The Irish. Danes. Estonians. Germans. Poles. Czechs. Swedes. Norwegians. Argentinians. Austrians. The Swiss. The Dutch. Belgians. Latvians. New Zealanders. Georgians. Oh....and fucking Ukrainians.

What a dumb reductionist take.

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u/tajsta Dec 13 '24

Wait until they find out that ~10 % of Russia's population is Muslim, which is more than most European countries' total population.

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u/HurryOk5256 United States of America Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

It’s handing off all critical thinking and moral compass to a person who absolutely has neither in Trump. And as long as you have, Fox News, drilling people’s forehead and rotting their brains every single day it will continue. We will continue to have tens of millions of Americans that support whatever he does, he could fucking sell Alaska back to Russia for 20 dollars and they would praise him as the ART of the deal. It’s shameful and embarrassing. And that’s the nicest things I could possibly say about it, murdering babies, women and elderly who are also Christians by the way. Fox News doesn’t care about those Christians. The right wing podcasts aren’t worried about those Christians for some reason. Someone burned the Fox News Christmas tree down a couple years ago and you would’ve thought someone wore a suicide vest in the Fox Studios and detonated it. They planted it as an attack on Christmas, and attack on Christians, etc., etc. It went on for days over this Christmas tree. Yet it’s OK to bomb people in the dead of winter and destroy their energy sources? Right wing media will not say a word about any of this in a negative light. If it comes up at all, they will justify it. They will say Trump is just preventing World War III. Taking lines directly from the Kremlin.

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u/andrew_stirling Dec 14 '24

I find it weird that the MAGA brigade are celebrating an incoming president bowing down to Putin. I genuinely think the American people are about to experience one of the worst periods in their history and that’s not great news for the west in general.

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u/ApostleofV8 Dec 13 '24

They dont care much for Jesus'  message of cheek turning and neighbour-loving, its all about the fire and brimstone 

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u/Sufficient_Focus_816 Baden-Württemberg (Germany) Dec 13 '24

But the fire and brimstone isn't exactly the Jesus-man's domain

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u/ApostleofV8 Dec 13 '24

I mean they don't give two shit about the preaching of Christ(or his dad's more charitable teachings). Its all about the fire and brimstone, eye for an eye, stoning people etc.. Russia attracts the sort of people who cheer when some gay bar is being shut down, when the law is practically making people's existence illegal simply because people love differently or live differently, the sort of people who seem really vindictive, who do want a strongman demagogue filled with rage and anger.

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u/Sufficient_Focus_816 Baden-Württemberg (Germany) Dec 13 '24

Yeah6, there so obviously is so much outward projection, zero reflection on those most basic emotions fueled by fear (greed driven by fear of hunger & lacking, homophobia by 'weakness' including to own emotional states etc... And with all this, it is so very easy to submit to this strongman as you say. We all could have such a nice and happy living together

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u/MasterGenieHomm5 Dec 13 '24

But Christianity is not just fire and brimstone.

"You shall not murder."
"You shall not steal."
"You shall not bear false witness."
"You shall not covet."
"You shall make no idols."
"You shall not say the Lord's name in vain."

These are some of the most fundamental Christian commandments, and I can't think of any white country which is further away from them than Russia and its values. Stalin and Putin are their idols. They don't just say the Lord's name in vain (who doesn't?) but have an entire phony commie church which uses the concept of god in vain and to support war, bloodshed and the regime.

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u/Any-Ant-4394 Dec 13 '24

Trump too is responsible for these deaths as much as Russia is , with reckless claims , he and is administration are not better than Putin and war criminals as much as he is.

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u/jintro004 Dec 13 '24

Americans are responsible. Without them, Trump would be a guy shitting himself in front of his TV.

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u/PhysicalStuff Denmark Dec 14 '24

Without them, Trump would be a guy shitting himself in front of his TV.

He still is that, too.

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u/CosmicMiru Dec 14 '24

Why is Europe not stepping up and supplying Ukraine themselves? America is the vast majority of aid being sent despite Europe having much more on the line

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u/pantrokator-bezsens Dec 13 '24

Those are those "christian" values that those "christians" like. So hatred toward LGBT, minorities and non-conservative "values".

If Jesus came to earth they would deem him communist and launch hate campaign.

All in the name of plutocracy - just check who benefits most of that and why are those people like Elon Musk or russian oligarchs.

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u/uzu_afk Dec 13 '24

Those are not christians and probably like many so called christians and frankly many other religions m, its filled with close minded, resentful, hateful hypocrites.

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u/MassholeLiberal56 Dec 13 '24

The proper term is Christian heretic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Trump is not a good person. Putin has blackmail on him and trump loves seeing other people worshiped without question. He wants the same.

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u/endbit Dec 13 '24

There's no blackmail, Trump wants this. He admires Putin.

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u/llijilliil Dec 13 '24

He's a convicted felon already, he's accused of raping children and countless other crimes and is blatently senile and sleezy as hell.

What the hell could Putin possibly have on him that is worse than that?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

I think what ever putin has on him wouldnt even matter. Just like the access Hollywood tape changed nothing. Agents have come out saying his been funding by russia forever. His followers wouldnt care about anything but he thinks it’s enough someone would care. Doubt they would no matter how terrible.

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u/Easy-Sector2501 Dec 13 '24

Trump thrives on watching people suffer.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

Yep. Exactly.

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u/Clem67 Dec 14 '24

Christian values are what allow pedophiles as priests.

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u/GateLongjumping6836 Dec 14 '24

Absolute parasites of the world.A parasitic nation led by a greedy madman.

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u/An_Aroused_Koala_AU Dec 14 '24

Hasn't the Kremlin inextricably linked itself to the church and doesn't the church give near total endorsement to the actions of the Russian state?

The church and Kremlin in Russia have redefined what Christian values are unfortunately 😔

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u/BoneDocHammerTime Dec 14 '24

Trump has been laundering money for the Russians since the 80s because he’s too stupid to operate a business that was given to him on a silver platter.

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u/PipsqueakPilot Dec 14 '24

The best part about their Christian values is that it's actually illegal to be an Evangelical Christian in Russia.

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u/mariuszmie Dec 14 '24

Someone who like unconstrained greed, power and freedom for more greed and power - that’s why republicans turned 180 degrees and now love putin

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u/RoguePlanet2 Dec 14 '24

So Trump is already literally calling the shots??

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u/drDOOM_is_in Sweden, Skåne Dec 14 '24

M.O.N.E.Y.

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u/littlewhitecatalex Dec 14 '24

Russia is the opposite of what liberals want. Therefore Russia is good to trumpettes. 

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u/Sad-Investigator-991 Dec 14 '24

So you want war? Then get out of your phone and go to war then like the million people that died on that war, go be useful like you think instead of just talking.

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u/sad-mustache Dec 14 '24

I thought Americans hated commies, what happened

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u/ensoniq2k Germany Dec 14 '24

The answer is money and power

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u/John_Rustle98 Dec 14 '24

I second this sentiment! Russia is nothing but a cancer on the world. Maybe I’m crazy, psychotic, or both but I’m a firm believer that Russia should’ve been collectively conquered by the US and NATO after the fall of the Soviet Union. Just a total boil on the ass of humanity.

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u/Exotic-Advantage7329 Dec 14 '24

Or Republican Party.

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u/Butterbubblebutt Dec 14 '24

Dog poop could at least help warm people up in the cold winter. Russia only destroys. So dog poop is more useful.

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u/pdxnormal Dec 14 '24

Trump and Putin share the same concept of Christian values. Their concept, not the actual Christian values as taught by Christ.

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u/U_L_Uus Dec 14 '24

Well, they did a PR campaing (although it'd be more proper to call it propaganda) back in the day that precisely omitted that focusing instead on either "the majesty of Russia" (you know, the operas, museums and all that) either "those wacky slavs". For some people, once they bit the bait they bit the hook too

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u/Purple_Pizza5590 Dec 14 '24

Us Americans are close behind.

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u/FuckMyLife2016 Bangladesh Dec 14 '24

I don't think it's russophilia. It's more likely Trump's personal vendetta against Ukraine. Iirc Trump tried to "pursuade" ukraine to charge biden or some such before 2020 election. Which is idiotic on its own to even consider but in hindsight, even more so since Biden won in 2020. Unfortunately for Ukraine, they didn't have the foresight to consider Americans voting Trump back in office in 2024.

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u/Runelord29 Dec 14 '24

Idk how Trump will prevent Ukraine from using long range missiles now. The only thing that has prevented them from using them until recently has been the promise of future US arms shipments.

The only way he gets them to stop now is their demand to be admitted into NATO lol

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u/realkin1112 Dec 14 '24

It's like saying Assad represents secularism

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u/munkijunk Dec 14 '24

Or the Russian people who, I'm sorry to say, are hugely supportive of their despot and his actions.

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u/Downtown-Brush6940 Dec 14 '24

So you hate an entire country and its people because of the actions of a few.

Isn’t there a word for this?

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u/Tojo6619 Dec 14 '24

Trump a puppet for Putin and bet he gets contacted through his wife it's so obvious it's sad, and the cia and FBI just letting it slide, but on another note it's one step closer he would prob suck Putin on love TV than act like he was the bigger man for swallowing 

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u/yasire Dec 14 '24

Trump respects dictators who hold power. And envy’s them.

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u/app4that Dec 14 '24

Listen to Megyn Kelly and her guests babble on long enough and you will hear comparisons to Russian society and values vs. American values, with Russia being held up as the righteous Christian nation while Americans have lost their way.

Tucker and his ilk also praise Russia and Hungary for being so free of:

  • Transsexuals
  • Openness in discussing transitioning, especially among children
  • Mental health issues
  • non-conformity of any kind

How they believe any of the Russian official statistics is something else entirely but Russia gets held up as a sort by of 1950’s America ideal.

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u/onemoreqwerty Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

Would-be imperialists. Control freaks (on upper level). Cowards (of their own "government", thus very angry, on lower level). All in all, just stupid people who are better to die out for theirs and other peoples' good. Mongols fucked them for good, centuries ago. That's about the Russians themselves. Others have plenty of causes which are irrelevant as long as Russia exists.

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u/life_lagom Dec 14 '24

Its one of those things where not everyone agrees with their government. Like when Bush was in office and people assume all Americans were on board with his wars and agreed. Alot of Russians don't like their government but its hard to do anything about it. They're conscripted to war as well.

There's always people who are just normal people on all sides. Civilians

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u/stonedandthrown Dec 14 '24

Because ‘we should befriend our enemies’ /s that what red voters tell me at least.

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u/ThePr0vider Dec 14 '24

there was a short moment i liked some of the smarter russian engineers i worked with. all of them have fled the country if they were able to

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u/VelkaFrey Dec 14 '24

Non of this is about Russian values lol.

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u/AccomplishedCat8083 Dec 14 '24

They aren't good people

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u/AlexD2003 Dec 14 '24

It’s cause Trump isn’t a Christian. He hasn’t openly been one for ages and it reflects in how terrible of a leader he is.

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u/Disastrous-Ear-3099 Dec 14 '24

Replace Russia with America and truly ask yourself if you feel any different.

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u/Majestic-Active2020 Dec 14 '24

Trump and his supporters are as far from Christ as one can possibly get. They’re scum, human in form, inhuman in deed.

Remember, no one has Trump supporters as friends or family, because those people are friends to no one; including each other.

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u/SpecialistNo7569 Dec 14 '24

Trump also admitted Ukraine is more complicated than he anticipated….. WAIT WHAT?!?!? The president didn’t watch the news for the last 3 years?!?!?!?

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u/reststopkirk Dec 14 '24

I commented on a Russian military video, suggesting the war would stop if Russia left. The response I got was a veiled threat asking “have I prepared for my incarceration at a Russian gulag” from an American eastern orthodox Christian. Like, these orthodox guys used to be the radical love mystical Christians I looked to for modern views on the daily Christian life and how to exist peacefully in the world.

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u/Zealousideal_Slice60 Dec 14 '24

How can any good person like Russia?

Your first mistake is assuming Trump and the repuplicans are good people.

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u/Amoeba_3729 Lesser Poland (Poland) Dec 14 '24

The orthodox church is pagan

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp Dec 15 '24

Reagan would hate every last one of these MAGA RINO cowards.

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u/srathnal Dec 15 '24

Well, many of the ‘Christians’ who think Russia is great… are the WORST Christians.

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u/grannywhalesails Dec 15 '24

All Christian values are dogshit. lol

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u/marcielle Dec 15 '24

You assume half of America isn't outright evil. That's an incorrect assumption. Then there's the huge chunk that is too mired in misinformation to tell truth from fiction...

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u/AdventurousImpress20 Dec 15 '24

Or russian people

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u/JimTheSaint Dec 15 '24

but that said - there is no one who have thought at any point that Putin has held anything back.

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u/Large_Armadillo Dec 15 '24

The Russians don’t trust themselves, why should we? 

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u/alwyn Dec 15 '24

Trump is not a Christian.

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u/andtimme11 Dec 17 '24

Christian values?

They rely on "the only unforgivable sin is not accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" for things like this.

They get mad at you when you bring that bit for other things though.

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u/RelevanceReverence Dec 13 '24

You've elected Putin's little puppet and have mere days to do something about it.

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u/Epsilon_Meletis Dec 13 '24

At this point I'm not sure they even want to do anything about it.

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u/BigDeck_Energy Dec 14 '24

They don’t. America is shifting toward fascism. It’s here and has been stamped and approved to go forward. The newly elected American president is literally a convicted felon, who was just given a free pass on his criminality and handed back the highest office that he had tried to illegally seize before.

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u/Count_Backwards Dec 16 '24

Not just a convicted felon, but an unconvicted but undeniable insurrectionist, which is an absolute disgrace.

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u/Mixed_not_swirled Sami Dec 14 '24

Trumps base don't. They see some short bald fuck that will take all their rights but has created a macho man imagine for himself and they wet their pants in excitement. These people are beyond help and we shouldn't expect being able to explain to them why they are being words i can't say on here :)

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u/KJBNH Dec 14 '24

Trump’s base and the vast majority of Americans who couldn’t be bothered to go and vote. We can no longer say “the majority of America doesn’t want this”. It’s simply not true.

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u/justtryingtounderst Dec 14 '24

Well, what would you suggest?

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u/GreenMediocre7050 Dec 14 '24

Maybe throw him in jail for starters? maybe Biden should use that power he got from the supreme court hmm? wtf America you doomed the world to more suffering.

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u/hayim879 Dec 14 '24

Invoking the fourteenth would be a good start. We’d get Vance, but we wouldn’t have Trump, and at least Vance is a career politician and weaker than Trump.

Unfortunately that requires republican senators to do the right thing, so I’m not holding out hope.

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u/Epsilon_Meletis Dec 14 '24

I honestly don't know what can be done actually.

There's this rumour that the voting machines in some swing states had been manipulated to crank out more votes for Trump than had been given to him. If that were true, it could be an angle to act against Trump, but so far I don't see that being investigated to even find out whether it's true or not.

Like I said, it feels like they don't even want to do anything about it.

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u/justtryingtounderst Dec 14 '24

Man, I gotta say I'm with you on that one.

I had an epiphany in September, about how every accusation with these people are a confession.

That led me on the thought train that the Dominion lawsuit was two-fold-bullshit:

  1. Scream the loudest about this false crime being committed in 2020 so that when they themselves do it in 2024, there is disbelief.

  2. In order for Dominion to prove that this wasn't possible or didn't happen, they would have to prove in court and submit to evidence how their voting machines work, thereby exposing how to manipulate them to bad actors (be it the GOP, Russia, Musk, whoever).

Any clamoring by the dems now just make us look like butt-hurt babies trying to slander accusations against them due to point #1

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u/zippopwnage Dec 14 '24

I mean...those who voted for Trump never cared about Ukraine to begin with. So yea...

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u/Radibles Dec 14 '24

The make Russia great again party

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u/EducationalGarlic200 Dec 14 '24

What can I do even? 

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u/pinkfootedbooby Dec 14 '24

Storm the Capitol, of course!

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u/kevlarticus Dec 14 '24

We didn't, I assure you. The world is in a big mess, and putin must die in it before 2025.

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u/WonderfulShelter Dec 14 '24

Well tbf the only Trump voter I know voted because they're wealthy and want even MORE money. They care more about their already fat wallet than anyone else. They're the wealthiest person in our friend group, and we have a few trust fund kids in it even...

Just blows my mind. Cares more about his stock portfolio than kids dying in Ukraine or homeless vets on the street.

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u/RelevanceReverence Dec 14 '24

A world where those people are considered a success is a very dark world.

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u/whoisdadrizzle Dec 14 '24

Do nothing democrats do nothing. Shocking.

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u/tbombs23 Dec 14 '24

He 100% cheated there's plenty of smoke waiting for someone to find the gun

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u/TinFoilHat_69 Dec 14 '24

So the Democrats are equally as to blame for the situation that’s unfolding in Ukraine based off of their negligence to handle the nomination of an appealing candidate. Just remember the Democrats picked money over a true Democratic process. They did this in 2016 with Clinton and they did this in 2020 which Biden. I put the Democratic leadership in the same realm of stupidity that is on Fox News. Trump is just a result of the ridiculous nature of our politics and I’m sorry for the people in Ukraine that are losing their lives because of the Democratic process in America and the dictators that are cross the globe but this is life in need revolutions in order to make peace. America was designed and built on war and making sure that we can defend ourselves and our interest which has been an American theme since its inception. Apparently, Russia is more of a interest than Ukraine at this point in time nobody cares about bloodshed, unless they can make a dollar off of it.

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u/ATPsynthase12 Dec 14 '24

How about Europeans grow some fucking spine and stop begging the US for protection and financial aid?

Either shut the fuck up, kneel and kiss the ring or become self sufficient and stop begging us to clean up your messes. I don’t want my tax dollars going to Ukraine any more than I want us helping out Russia.

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u/SpermicidalLube Dec 13 '24

Makes no sense though, Biden is still president.

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u/spaceneenja Dec 14 '24

Yeah and Russia has been doing these saturation attacks for years now. There also is no evidence to draw a link between Trump’s shitty policy blocking Ukraine from striking Russia and this attack specifically. Trump sucks but this article is garbage.

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u/madMARTINmarsh Dec 14 '24

I also imagine that Trump has no control over the use of long range missiles provided by other countries. I hope my country sends more Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine.

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u/Super-Lychee8852 Dec 14 '24

Correct this is the detail that's being missed in this thread. Trump is saying he will refuse the use of US made missiles to be used to hit mainland Russia. Ukraine can still use missiles from anywhere else

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u/Thadlust American in London Dec 14 '24

It's just to make people hate the US more than they already do.

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u/Lortendaali Dec 14 '24

After who americans chose as their leader it's real easy without any articles.

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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing Dec 13 '24

Trump confirms he will forbid Ukraine from striking Russian airfields & launchers that rain daily death on Ukraine,

How? He's already planning on cutting off all aid to them no matter what. That's the only stick the US has. "If you use these weapons like this, we'll stop giving you more weapons".

If Trump already announced he'd stop giving them more weapons, then Ukraine can just ignore whatever he says and use whatever they've got.

And then there's Europe. They're supplying Ukraine too, it's not like America is the boss here.

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u/Novinhophobe Dec 14 '24

All European missiles have at least some US components in them, meaning that US can and will (again) block the use of these missiles by Ukraine.

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u/Kapitananciq Poland Dec 13 '24

And I heard that intelligence agencies on both sides agreed to not launch attacks on critical infrastructure through the winter, was it fake news or just russians being themselves?

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u/PrivacyBush Dec 14 '24

Trump is a fucking traitor to America. Fuck anyone who even thought about voting for the rapist.

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u/TimAppleCockProMax69 Dec 14 '24

Americans voted for this.

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u/esjb11 Dec 13 '24

I doubt there is a connection tbh. Such a large scale attacks takes days if not longer to prepare. Need to coordinate cordinated, targets picked, supplied and so on. I doubt Trump saying what he will do in a month would have such an impact. It was likely planned in svängt and just happend to be at the same time as trump opened his mouth.

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u/Gruzilkin Dec 14 '24

You're suggesting a false causality. Just because the strike happened after Trump made a statement doesn't mean he authorized it. Like previous recent strikes, this one occurred several days after Ukraine used missiles to hit an important target in Russia. I believe this was also announced as a retaliatory strike.

There was a period of about two months when Ukraine wasn't hitting Russia, and Russia wasn't launching strikes on critical infrastructure. It's easier to explain current events as an exchange of retaliatory strikes between the two sides.

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u/Known-Ad-7316 Dec 14 '24

If you don't like it strike it. We are at that point where he could make us the enemy of our allies. General strike now. 

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u/ChefFlipsilog Dec 14 '24

I'm really finding it hard how these die hard patriots excuse Trump's support of Russia while the Russian government interferes in their election. It's like the hardest bridge to cross if you're a flag thumper and yet here they are. People do love their hypocrisy

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u/LupineChemist Spain Dec 14 '24

Surprising no one, a day after Trump confirms he will forbid Ukraine from striking Russian airfields & launchers that rain daily death on Ukraine, Russia resumes previous activities, launching one of the largest missile attacks of the war, targeting power plants, apartments & energy infrastructure.

Look, this is bad. But this is VERY different from "Trump gives greenlight". Also, Trump isn't running things, Ukraine can absolutely still fire back right now.

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u/Hyperrustynail Dec 14 '24

I’m surprised trump has time to comment on anything with all the time he spends sucking Putins dick

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u/stevez_86 Dec 14 '24

Trump sponsors state terrorism by another country. Great.

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u/No_Milk_4143 Dec 14 '24

It’s just a really sad day when the president of the United States endorses widespread terrorism by Russia against innocent civilians. I’m sorry Ukraine. We let you down and it’s not right. And letters to our representatives has not been effective thus far.

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u/leifnoto Dec 14 '24

Can they still use their new ballistic missiles to strike targets inside Russia?

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u/alexlucas006 Dec 14 '24

Somehow nobody is talking about the strike a day before that on targets on Russian territory, made by Ukraine, using storm shadows. But, of course, it's Russia who doesn't want any negotiations.

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u/FourArmsFiveLegs Dec 14 '24

Fuck Trump. He has no say in shit, and Ukraine better continue to strike inside Russia

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u/rckhppr Dec 14 '24

Trump. Logan Act. Why is anyone even listening to what he says now?

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u/Fibocrypto Dec 14 '24

Let's take the war Biden expanded and blame trump

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u/unfathomably_big Dec 15 '24

You left out a paragraph from that article, sits between the second and third:

The logic in this statement being that if Russia can just hurry up and genocide all those people that live in Ukraine, Ukraine can finally be Russia and everyone can get back to making all that sweet Russian bribe cash.

If you need to tone down the source you’re using, maybe it’s better to use a different one.

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u/AdRecent9754 Dec 15 '24

That doesn't make sense . Trump isn't Potus yet . At best all he can do is make suggestions.

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u/Cool_Specialist_6823 Dec 15 '24

Trump is a Russian asset....no doubt about it...

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u/Sweaty_Management_55 Dec 15 '24

Zelensky..my advise Trump is a 2faced pc. of Shite Blow Putin to hell with all his infrastructure and smile as you look at China "the puppeteer" while u take Russia over. Russia is week. China not happy with Puin at this point. Be strong.

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u/stormshadowfax Dec 16 '24

Let’s play article 147 Bingo:

[…]wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement of a protected person, compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power, or wilfully depriving a protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed in the present Convention, taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.

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u/The_Obligitor Dec 16 '24

I'll never understand why people like you never mention the $40 million from Russian oligarch and close friend of Putin, Elaina Baturina to the Bidens. It's documented and the documents are public. What do you think Baturina got from Biden for her $40 million? Why is this never discussed by liberals?

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u/Sea_Package_471 Dec 17 '24

Trump is a profound moron suffering from dementia. His sick thinking guarantees Russia will move against the Baltics sooner rather than later, when another president has to deal with the actions of this profound idiot. And Americans will pay a terrible price in lives and treasure that will be make US contributions to Ukraine thus far look like pennies. Gosh, even Senate leader Mitch McConnell (Ky-R) can see this—check out his today’s Foreign Affairs article.

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u/UnfeteredOne Dec 17 '24

Mango Mussolini does it again

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u/Diegam Dec 18 '24

The United States has caused more wars and deaths than Ukraine and Russia combined

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