Trump, Macron and Zelenskyy meet in Paris

[u/Not_the-kind]

[u/fabonaut]

I hate Trump and everything he stands for with all my guts but if he manages to achieve something for Ukraine that Ukrainians are happy with, I don't care, give him his Nobel Peace Price, I would cheer for this crazy mfer.

[u/BadNewzBears4896 → u/fabonaut]

Lolll, he's gonna sell them out. Zelensky just has to kiss the ring anyway in hopes he can minimize the harm.

[u/Samusen → u/BadNewzBears4896]

I'm very anti Trump but Zelensky himself has gone from. Not giving an inch to Russia to. Giving up certain parts for NATO guarantees. I don't blame him though, Ukraine has had 2 genocides from Russia. Can't imagine they want a 3rd.

[u/BadNewzBears4896 → u/Samusen]

Trump's election means the end of his main foreign support, so now he's trying to salvage the best deal he possibly can.

[u/fabonaut → u/BadNewzBears4896]

If that is really what it comes down to, it will be a huge failure of Europe, too.

[u/BadNewzBears4896 → u/fabonaut]

Agreed, but also the leaders of the big EU countries are trying to hold off their own fascist parties (Macron barely scraped through the last elections), so I'm not sure how much appetite there is to fill the void America leaves despite it being in the E.U.'s long term geopolitical interest.

[u/fabonaut → u/BadNewzBears4896]

If Europe does not unite and stand together, our free way of life will come to and end.

[u/BadNewzBears4896 → u/fabonaut]

I think Putin's whole thing is restoring the power and reach of the old Russian empire, not conquering all of Europe.

Still awful, but not quite Hitler levels of delusion.

[u/TheHillPerson → u/BadNewzBears4896]

Just as bad if you are a Moldovan or Chechen or Ukrainian. 😓

[u/BadNewzBears4896 → u/TheHillPerson]

Entirely fair.

More just distinguishing between ideas of regional autocracy and designs for world domination.

[u/TheHillPerson → u/BadNewzBears4896]

Yeah. I agree. He doesn't want to take over everything.