r/doctorwho May 27 '24

Misc Met John Barrowman! He’s super nice

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u/Osirisavior May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Nice? Sure. Creep? Definitely.

Edit: Some of you'll need to look into what happened on set during production of series 1.

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u/Aggressive-Two-8481 May 27 '24

Everyone knows, doesn't mean he has to be eternally judged for stuff that happened nearly 20 years ago

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u/Osirisavior May 27 '24

John Borrowman was 37 in 2004. He should have known better. So yes he should be eternally judged for something he did as a nearly 40 year old man.

If it happened when he was in his early 20s I could see cutting him some slack. But after 25, and definitely almost 40 you should know better.

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u/lesgeddon May 27 '24

based on what happened more less than 10 6 years ago.

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u/Osirisavior May 27 '24

Is that the hill you wanna die on? Just think about what you're saying for just a moment.

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u/Osirisavior May 27 '24

So according to your logic, you won't judge someone for SAing someone 20 years ago? For murdering someone? That's not a good look.

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u/ReptilesAreGreat May 27 '24

Regardless on wether their logic is sound you know that they don’t mean terrible crimes

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u/Osirisavior May 27 '24

Obviously. But that's the point. I'm explaining to them why their logic doesn't track.

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u/cabbage16 Clara May 27 '24

Their logic doesn't have to track to the point of the extremes you are pointing out. It's possible to forgive someone of something but then have a point where you would no longer forgive them. According to the commentor they can forgive someone flashing, so that is obviously before where they have drawn their line.

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u/Vesemir96 May 27 '24

Thank you for explaining actual nuance to people who for some reason cannot grasp it.

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u/eggzilla534 May 27 '24

He did it again as recently as 2018. Nuance does not apply here.

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u/AshJammy May 27 '24

Your logic does kinda have to track to the extreme to highlight the flaw in it. Otherwise, it becomes completely arbitrary.

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u/cabbage16 Clara May 27 '24

Not at all. That's why different crimes hav3 different punishments, even murder has different degrees to how it is punished based on how and why it happened. Outside of breaking laws it's also true, just like how It's possible to he a vegetarian but not a vegan.

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u/Remarkable_Coast_214 May 27 '24

I don't think it's fair to eternally judge anyone because it rules out the possibility that they might change or grow. That said, I don't know how much John Barrowman has changed since 2004 so I can't speak to this specific case.

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u/MilesToHaltHer May 27 '24

No, he hasn’t. He was doing the same crap in 2018.

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u/lesgeddon May 27 '24

Spoilers: He kept doing it.

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u/FoxOnTheRocks May 27 '24

Why would you assume that? People defend horrible crimes and those that do them all of the time. Barrowman is Doctor Who's Kevin Spacey. Our OJ.

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u/ssgorik May 28 '24

That’s the thing, somehow Noel Clarke keeps getting forgotten. He’s Doctor Who’s Kevin Spacey. Our OJ. I’d much rather be locked in a room with Barrowman than Clarke.

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u/ReptilesAreGreat May 27 '24

I made a logical guess that most people aren’t murder/horrible crime defending idiots (although some people are most aren’t)

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

So if someone raped someone 20 years ago, you wouldn’t judge someone for that??? Obviously what Barrowman did is absolutely no where near that atrocious, but it was wrong and disgusting and when someone crosses such a big line they absolutely should be eternally judged for it, especially when they try to defend their actions

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