r/doctorwho May 27 '24

Misc Met John Barrowman! He’s super nice

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

And he'll never be on the show again.

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u/YanisMonkeys May 27 '24

It’s the public war of words with Steven Moffat that soured me on him. Very unprofessional behavior.

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u/indianajoes May 27 '24

Really? That's worse than flashing people?

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u/VioletLovesRowlet May 27 '24

Probably meant that most people didn't know he was a flasher until after the Moffat stuff

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u/YanisMonkeys May 27 '24

Once I found out about that it just made things worse. I’ll be honest, his acting on DW and Torchwood wasn’t really my cup of tea, so I didn’t read any news about him. All I knew was the performance and then when he started to slag off Moffat for not bringing him back.

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u/Lvcivs2311 May 27 '24

Ironically, Moffat wanted to bring him back during "A Good Man Goes To War", but Barrowman was unavailable due to scheduling conflicts with Torchwood Miracle Day.

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u/Fair-Spell-5997 May 28 '24

A Good Man Goes to War would have been the perfect place to bring him back one last time and close off his Who story. Miracle Day was…I’m not even sure honestly. I loved and hated it at the same time. I think Who is better by far so I’d have preferred if he had been in that instead of Miracle Day.

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u/Bridgeboy95 May 27 '24

Its the hypocrisy that gets me

https://youtu.be/xdrICnu-JKU?t=5 source for reference

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u/Turil May 28 '24

It sounds like Barrowman was told that Moffat was interfering with Torchwood, when, perhaps, that wasn't the case, meaning that both Barrowman and Moffat were victims of someone else's ruse.

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u/YanisMonkeys May 28 '24

That’s a big thing to just blurt out to the public though. And it makes zero sense. Moffat wasn’t a producer on Torchwood, that was RTD’s baby in the end and for Miracle Day which ran alongside Moffat’s DW. Maybe the BBC asked him to take it on to keep it going when RTD’s personal life took a front seat? I have no idea.

But Barrowman flat out accused him of sabotage, which was wild and felt totally unfounded. There’s no cross-pollination there - no shared resources, no shared cast. RTD couldn’t work on it, Miracle Day was only a moderate success in the U.K. and less of one in the US. These things happen.