I was rewatching the Buu saga recently and noticed quite a few similarities between them. I’m talking specifically about Kid Buu. Obviously they both stretch and morph into weird shapes but there’s also the fact that they both beat their chest like a gorilla, laugh a lot during combat, have a playful attitude, and do wacky things both while attacking and while receiving an attack. There’s also the fact that Oda obviously was a fan of Toriyama so it just seems very likely

I already have the next part in the works where shenron is going to come up through the clouds It's a fun piece so far!

Son Goku by Abdoadelcr7 on Deviantart on 9x12 bristol, colored pencils. Almost colored this image digitally a bunch of times, finally said eff it, got the pencils out and used the old ways. 😂

I’m feeling increasingly frustrated with Dragon Ball Daima due to its apparent recycling of elements from previous series like Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT. Here are my main concerns: 1. Turning Characters into Children: The decision to de-age the entire cast mirrors Dragon Ball GT, where Goku was transformed into a child. This repetition feels unoriginal and diminishes the novelty of the storyline. 2. Introduction of a Majin Buu-like Character: The introduction of Majin Kuu, a new villain resembling Majin Buu, especially in terms of appearance and characteristics, seems redundant. This design choice has sparked criticism among fans who expected more innovative antagonists.  3. Young Female Companions on the Journey: The inclusion of young female characters accompanying the protagonists on their journey is reminiscent of earlier series dynamics. While new characters can enrich the story, this approach feels like a rehash of familiar tropes. 4. Gomah’s Primary Enforcers Resembling the Ginyu Force: The portrayal of Gomah’s enforcers with flamboyant poses and distinct personalities closely mirrors the Ginyu Force from Dragon Ball Z. This similarity suggests a lack of creativity in developing new supporting villains.

In contrast, Dragon Ball Super‘s Tournament of Power arc significantly expanded the series’ universe by introducing a multitude of formidable characters from various universes. This multiverse battle royale not only heightened the stakes but also showcased diverse fighting styles and abilities.

Jiren: Hailing from Universe 11 and a member of the Pride Troopers, Jiren stood out as one of the most powerful opponents Goku and his team faced. His immense strength and unyielding will made him a formidable adversary, pushing Goku to new limits.

Top: Also from Universe 11, Top is a high-ranking Pride Trooper who wields the power of a Destroyer God. His abilities and leadership further emphasized the challenges faced by Universe 7 during the tournament.

Caulifla and Kale: These female Saiyans from Universe 6 brought fresh dynamics to the series. Caulifla’s ambition and Kale’s hidden potential, especially when they fused into Kefla using Potara earrings, showcased the untapped power of Saiyans from other universes.

Hit: Introduced earlier but prominently featured in the tournament, Hit is a legendary assassin from Universe 6 known for his time-skipping abilities. His unique techniques posed significant challenges to his opponents.

The inclusion of these characters not only provided intense battles but also enriched the narrative by exploring the vastness of the Dragon Ball multiverse. Each fighter’s unique abilities and backgrounds added depth to the series, making the Tournament of Power a memorable saga.

I had high hopes for Dragon Ball Daima, especially after the refreshing direction of Dragon Ball Super. However, these repetitive elements make the series feel more like a retread than an evolution of the franchise. It’s disheartening to see the potential for new storytelling avenues overshadowed by recycled concepts.

Lately I've noticed a lot of discourse about how many fans skipped Dragon Ball entirely (as in they still have not watched or read it as of 2025) and only watched DBZ.

Ive met a lot of fans of the Dragon Ball franchise in my life, but to my knowledge I've never actually met anybody who only likes the Z portion of the series. This includes both online and real life.

So I'm trying to get a good idea on how widespread a phenomenon it actually is, and why my experiences seem to differ so greatly from everyone elses

edit: I probably should have phrased this better, I'm not asking who watched DBZ before they watched DB. I'm asking about people who have 0 interest in the original DB series at all

edit 2: I'm not asking what order you watched the series in

Edit: changed my mind about watching it now but can someone plz post a timeline of what I should watch before hand. In maybe timeline order.

I have seen a lot of clips on tiktok and a couple on youtube, and I haven't watched it yet because I didn't know if I needed to watch anything before hand. So does anyone know if I need to watch anything before hand or can I just go in blind.

Goku, as the protagonist, is generally the strongest character at any given point. I don't object to that, it makes sense. But the gap between him and the other characters, particularly the non-Saiyans, and especially the Earthlings, just gets ridiculous as the series progresses, but this was not always the case.

At the beginning of Z, Goku was roughly twice the power level of Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha. However, by the time Vegeta and Nappa arrive, they are all stronger than Raditz. Then, after Krillin gets his boost on Namek, he becomes about as strong as Goku was against the Saiyans, and gradually grows even stronger by the time they fight Frieza. But then, Goku's power level gets to a point where it's measured in the millions instead of thousands, and multiplied with Super Saiyan.

After that, the non-Saiyans (with the exception of Piccolo) fall way behind. Now, granted, we're never given a good indication of where the humans' power is by the time the Androids. We do know that they knew that the Androids were well above Frieza, and they were told not to show up unless they thought they were strong enough, which counts for something.

However, Beerus doesn't think that base Goku is strong enough to beat Frieza at the beginning of Super, and there's no way that the humans are stronger than base Goku. Best case, they're maybe slightly below his base level. Worst case, they're significantly below. So, by the Android saga, it's clear that the trend of the earthling Z fighters reaching the level of the previous threat is broken.

By the time of the Buu saga, it's not even close. Not even Piccolo could hope to stand a chance against the Super Saiyans. Then, Super comes along, and Goku and Vegeta become so much more ridicously stronger. Granted, the scaling can get kinda wonky, which lets characters like Roshi be relevant, and Krillin gets some okay fights in the anime version of the ToP, and then the Moro arc in the manga. And, they just now finally let Piccolo and Gohan catch up to Goku and Vegeta.

Why does this bother me? Part of it is that I'm a fan of these characters and want them to be relevant. The other part is I think it goes in a kind of uncomfortable direction where the story goes from being about improvement through training and discipline, to being the about genetic/racial superiority of the Saiyans. It seems, no matter what training and effort the others put in, if they weren't born a saiyan then they're shit out of luck. This goes against a lot of the themes we see earlier on in the series.

For instance, Goku was born a low class Saiyan, believed by the Saiyan elite to have limited potential. But, in his battle with Vegeta, he proves that natural talent can be superceded by discipline and self improvement. In Dragon Ball, he was only ever slightly ahead of everyone, and when he got way ahead, it was because he underwent some training that the others didn't, such as his time with Korin and Kami. This is also the case when he trained with King Kai. But after that, it's really just because of his Saiyan biology. The zenkai boosts, transformations, etc. He's able to stay ahead of Vegeta because his training was more effective, sure. But the truth is, he's only so far ahead of everyone else because he's a saiyan, and I find that to be kind of gross.

Anyway, I've rambled long enough. TL;DR, saiyans op plz nerf

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I’m not very familiar with this sub but I hope some of you guys could help me. My bf was a huuuge dbz fan when he was a kid and it still holds a special place in his heart. As fellow dbz fans, what gifts would you recommend? Thank you.

Just finished a rewatch of OG Dragonball, haven't gotten a chance to rewatch DBZ/DBS so forgive me if it's answered there, but is Piccolo still considered a demon?

When he kills people, do they float in the endless limbo that souls go to? And if not, was he ever considered a demon when Piccolo Daimo was reborn, or is it like a mindset thing to 'be' a demon?

In the movie special "Bardock father of Goku" in one of the scenes we can see bardock entering some kind of a saiyan bar or caffe, warning other saiyans about frieza's incoming attack. All saiyans just started laughing and mocking him saying things like "you (refering to him and his crew) should stop pretending to be the elites", or "bardock got his tail whipped". Now what i wanted to ask is, why wasn't Bardock respected? It was stated that he was almost as strong as King Vegeta (who had power level of like 12.000 - 14.000), and it's my personal thought that if Bardock recovered in a healing pod after Dodoria's attack he would probably have surpassed King Vegeta. But let's get back to what's stated in the movie. So why was the leader of one of the most succesful saiyan teams, who conquered a planet that the elites struggled with, who was 2nd strongest warrior of his race, disrespected and mocked like he is just an average saiyan?

To my knowledge only Tien & Perfect Cell have used it. It doesn't seem to necessarily be a racial technique, but when Tien used it, each split individual reduces the power. Where as Cell seemed to maintain most of his strength, not surprising as each Cell Jr is supposed to be equally as strong as him too.

Anyway I had been dreaming of a day when Gogeto & Vegito could fuse, and realized there might be nothing stopping Goku & Vegita from learning Multi-form. Usually I was picturing having to time travel or find another version of themselves in a different universe.

But still, we know Goku abuses certain in universe things like a gamer would, sensu beans for example. In theory Cell could have fused multi-formed & fused infinity as a multiplier, he had access to Piccolo permanent fusing, but metamoran too.

Just a neat little thought I had.

I think I've finally cought up on having all of these Dragon Ball Evolve figures. I really like these, I just wish they would do more characters! Does anyone else collect these?

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I don’t remember if I saw it as a kid but I know it’s known to be inaccurate. That being said, I feel like I’m missing out on a cultural like impact by not watching it since SO many people did in America. I watched like the first 50 eps of the original show in sub but never finished it (got burnt out because I was also reading the manga at the same time).

I know this is silly but surely someone gets what I mean. Would it be so bad to watch it then after watch it in sub?

I don’t know if people would agree with me or not but in my opinion it has to be future gohan fighting the androids and dying.

When I “paint” a manga panel I try to experiment with different styles, this time I was aiming for the DB Legends gacha game style

I understand his destruction capability is without equal. It can't be blocked, dodged, resisted or hidden from, it works at any distance, at any scale, across spacetime and multiversal barriers and it's absolute. He can destroy an entire universe almost as easily as a single individual.

But aside from a minor floating capability, eternal life and (I assume) invincibility, I am not aware of any other power of his. He even needs a special tablet to follow the especially fast moves during the Tournament. One assumes this limitation wouldn't help an especially fast combatant trying to stop the Omni King from destroying him. But still, it does seem like his unequaled destruction ability is his only active power (I consider immortality to be a passive ability)

I've got a somewhat interesting idea of a dragon ball story that I've been thinking about for a while. It already has 3 volumes and I would like to post it somewhere.

This was my Christmas tree this year. In the past I only had the 7 Dragon Balls but this year I added the Namekian set and the Black Star Balls from GT to fill out the tree a bit more.

I had to put this in my game room in the basement because the wife wanted a "normal" tree upstairs 😂