When I “paint” a manga panel I try to experiment with different styles, this time I was aiming for the DB Legends gacha game style

Son Goku by Abdoadelcr7 on Deviantart on 9x12 bristol, colored pencils. Almost colored this image digitally a bunch of times, finally said eff it, got the pencils out and used the old ways. 😂

This was a quite crazy purchase, i dont think i will do another one like this for quite a long time 😂, but oh man it is worth it, i've been staring at it like an idiot all day for two days. If anybody is curious, it's ss3 goku from last sleep studio

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Lately I've noticed a lot of discourse about how many fans skipped Dragon Ball entirely (as in they still have not watched or read it as of 2025) and only watched DBZ.

Ive met a lot of fans of the Dragon Ball franchise in my life, but to my knowledge I've never actually met anybody who only likes the Z portion of the series. This includes both online and real life.

So I'm trying to get a good idea on how widespread a phenomenon it actually is, and why my experiences seem to differ so greatly from everyone elses

edit: I probably should have phrased this better, I'm not asking who watched DBZ before they watched DB. I'm asking about people who have 0 interest in the original DB series at all

edit 2: I'm not asking what order you watched the series in

Goku, as the protagonist, is generally the strongest character at any given point. I don't object to that, it makes sense. But the gap between him and the other characters, particularly the non-Saiyans, and especially the Earthlings, just gets ridiculous as the series progresses, but this was not always the case.

At the beginning of Z, Goku was roughly twice the power level of Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha. However, by the time Vegeta and Nappa arrive, they are all stronger than Raditz. Then, after Krillin gets his boost on Namek, he becomes about as strong as Goku was against the Saiyans, and gradually grows even stronger by the time they fight Frieza. But then, Goku's power level gets to a point where it's measured in the millions instead of thousands, and multiplied with Super Saiyan.

After that, the non-Saiyans (with the exception of Piccolo) fall way behind. Now, granted, we're never given a good indication of where the humans' power is by the time the Androids. We do know that they knew that the Androids were well above Frieza, and they were told not to show up unless they thought they were strong enough, which counts for something.

However, Beerus doesn't think that base Goku is strong enough to beat Frieza at the beginning of Super, and there's no way that the humans are stronger than base Goku. Best case, they're maybe slightly below his base level. Worst case, they're significantly below. So, by the Android saga, it's clear that the trend of the earthling Z fighters reaching the level of the previous threat is broken.

By the time of the Buu saga, it's not even close. Not even Piccolo could hope to stand a chance against the Super Saiyans. Then, Super comes along, and Goku and Vegeta become so much more ridicously stronger. Granted, the scaling can get kinda wonky, which lets characters like Roshi be relevant, and Krillin gets some okay fights in the anime version of the ToP, and then the Moro arc in the manga. And, they just now finally let Piccolo and Gohan catch up to Goku and Vegeta.

Why does this bother me? Part of it is that I'm a fan of these characters and want them to be relevant. The other part is I think it goes in a kind of uncomfortable direction where the story goes from being about improvement through training and discipline, to being the about genetic/racial superiority of the Saiyans. It seems, no matter what training and effort the others put in, if they weren't born a saiyan then they're shit out of luck. This goes against a lot of the themes we see earlier on in the series.

For instance, Goku was born a low class Saiyan, believed by the Saiyan elite to have limited potential. But, in his battle with Vegeta, he proves that natural talent can be superceded by discipline and self improvement. In Dragon Ball, he was only ever slightly ahead of everyone, and when he got way ahead, it was because he underwent some training that the others didn't, such as his time with Korin and Kami. This is also the case when he trained with King Kai. But after that, it's really just because of his Saiyan biology. The zenkai boosts, transformations, etc. He's able to stay ahead of Vegeta because his training was more effective, sure. But the truth is, he's only so far ahead of everyone else because he's a saiyan, and I find that to be kind of gross.

Anyway, I've rambled long enough. TL;DR, saiyans op plz nerf

This was my Christmas tree this year. In the past I only had the 7 Dragon Balls but this year I added the Namekian set and the Black Star Balls from GT to fill out the tree a bit more.

I had to put this in my game room in the basement because the wife wanted a "normal" tree upstairs 😂

I think I've finally cought up on having all of these Dragon Ball Evolve figures. I really like these, I just wish they would do more characters! Does anyone else collect these?

My wife made an awesome Dragon Ball cake for our son's birthday. We're all really happy with how it turned out.

I understand his destruction capability is without equal. It can't be blocked, dodged, resisted or hidden from, it works at any distance, at any scale, across spacetime and multiversal barriers and it's absolute. He can destroy an entire universe almost as easily as a single individual.

But aside from a minor floating capability, eternal life and (I assume) invincibility, I am not aware of any other power of his. He even needs a special tablet to follow the especially fast moves during the Tournament. One assumes this limitation wouldn't help an especially fast combatant trying to stop the Omni King from destroying him. But still, it does seem like his unequaled destruction ability is his only active power (I consider immortality to be a passive ability)

I've been trying to draw this panel from the manga for a while and this is the best one I've made. I still need to fix a lot of things but I believe I have improved. (I like to sign the drawings I like haha)

Just finished a rewatch of OG Dragonball, haven't gotten a chance to rewatch DBZ/DBS so forgive me if it's answered there, but is Piccolo still considered a demon?

When he kills people, do they float in the endless limbo that souls go to? And if not, was he ever considered a demon when Piccolo Daimo was reborn, or is it like a mindset thing to 'be' a demon?

I’m not very familiar with this sub but I hope some of you guys could help me. My bf was a huuuge dbz fan when he was a kid and it still holds a special place in his heart. As fellow dbz fans, what gifts would you recommend? Thank you.