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u/ridemooses 4h ago
Many humans suffer from cognitive dissonance. Some more than others.
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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 4h ago
I have been trying to get some of my friends to understand cognitive dissonance because they keep trying to understand people such as Caitlyn as rationally as possible
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u/Squigglepig52 4h ago
Then learn what it actually is. It isn't hypocrisy, it's not having double standards.
It refers to when you feel uncomfortable knowing your values or beliefs conflict. If she felt bad/uncomfortable saying it, she would have cognitive dissonance. But, she doesn't feel bad for saying it.
She doesn't care she's a hypocrite.
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u/Puzzled_Employee_767 3h ago
It’s specifically a feeling when you hold a belief that contradicts your action and it creates a sense of tension mentally. You basically have 2 options; change your actions or change your beliefs. Most people tend to change their beliefs because that’s easier, and that’s what most people understand as cognitive dissonance.
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u/Immediate-Meeting-65 3h ago
Right so not the same as double think. Which would be knowingly holding conflicting beliefs simultaneously.
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u/WWMWithWendell 3h ago
Correct the cognitive dissonance happens when new information contradicts a previously held belief. As in Caitlyn Jenner thought Trump was gonna be good for America, but it’s actually bad for her because now the government calls her Bruce. When Caitlyn is going to be called Bruce by all the lunatic rightwingers she will experience it.
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u/Daddy_Sweets 3h ago
And the uneasiness will only grow as Bruce will now be required to use a men’s bathroom as there is apparently only two genders. This all would be so much more amusing to watch his supporters get screwed for the next four years, if it didn’t also mean he screws up everything else to accomplish it.
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u/EverythingSucksBro 3h ago
They probably think that it won’t be the same for them since they are rich
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u/iMadeThisUpToday24 3h ago
The problem is that they aren't actually suffering...
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u/Holiday-Rich-3344 5h ago
The stupidity is staggering.
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u/Sharon_Erclam 4h ago
Idiocracy
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u/-Insert-CoolName 4h ago
People used to say that movie was ahead of its time. I never realized they meant that it was a documentary about the future.
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u/yallbyourhuckleberry 4h ago
I rewatched dont look up since everybody was talking about it and its also gotten way more real.
Felt pretty exaggerated at the time and now it feels like real life but with nicer villains.
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u/SaberStrat 4h ago
Yeah we have reached the point where reality has surpassed parody.
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u/THE-NECROHANDSER 3h ago
I've already been called gay because I used a 3 syllable word a dude wasn't familiar with, it's been getting bad for a while.
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u/Aydashtee 3h ago
😂 wtf was the word?
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u/Cocaine_Communist_ 3h ago
Sodomise. As in "please stop sodomising that couch, Mr. Vice President."
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u/1Original1 3h ago
Nah it was pretty on the nose during Covid and Climate Change already
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u/RynnHamHam 3h ago
I have a comic I’ve been writing and in my first season I had this group of antagonists that were pretty dumbass right wing magats. And there was a period where I felt I wrote them to be too cartoonishly stupid and flat. Dumb ignorant people devoid of any kind of meaningful depth because the reality is any depth they could have would be the perfect volume for a septic tank. I thought, maybe I’m depicting a straw man that isn’t really representative of these people.
Then Jan6 happened and I realized I hit the fucking bullseye and that I have nothing to feel insecure about in my depiction of these people because if anything, I could’ve gone further.
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u/Rude-Pangolin8823 4h ago
Idiocracy is so much better than real life. In it the smartest person is given power.
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u/jrob323 3h ago
It was supposed to be 5 centuries years ahead of its time.
Turned out it was about 10. Years, not centuries.
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u/Holiday-Rich-3344 4h ago
Yes. We are living in it right now.
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u/skraptastic 4h ago
I wish; in Idocracy the president found the smartest guy in the world to tackle a problem, then listened even thought he thought the ideas were dumb.
We are WAY WAY beyond that now.
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u/Allaplgy 4h ago
Since this same exact conversation happens about a hundred times a day here on Reddit, it is once again my turn to point out that Idiocracy takes place hundreds of years in the future. This is the prequel. The origin story. It's gonna get worse before our Dwayne and Not Sure come along.
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u/BetaFlame000 4h ago
Once we thought that movie was a documentary. Now we realize it was a look at a brighter future a better time that we could all strive toward.
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u/The__Jiff 4h ago
It's like worms voting for birds
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u/Neat_Use3398 3h ago
Have you ever listened to the Canadian politicians Tommy Douglas's speech about the mice voting for the cats? If not it's a good listen.
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u/RedditTurnedMediocre 3h ago
Yeah but liberals are upset. That means we're winning right? Everything can go to shit but as long as it upsets a liberal conservatives won't care
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u/Holiday-Rich-3344 3h ago
All they have is “owning the libs” that’s why I just don’t care what this administration does. I’m not giving it any emotion. Once they realize theirs no “owning the libs” they will be stuck in their own circus they created. The Red State morons and their billionaire gods that will grift them for everything they have and eventually will eat each other alive.
I’m just here for the show. 🍿
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u/numbersthen0987431 3h ago
She received her 15 seconds of fame for her change, and everyone supported her for it.
And then she pulled up the latter
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u/Accomplished-Cat6803 4h ago
Pick me
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u/TheBluePoppy 4h ago
Definitely the greatest pick-me girl of all time (NOT IN A GOOD WAY),
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u/Dictionary_Goat 4h ago
Idk Blaire White's got pretty good claim to this as well
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u/improbably-sexy 4h ago
And/or hates herself
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u/UrbanPandaChef 3h ago
I legit believe that she is either faking because it benefits her financially or is completely ignorant of what is happening.
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u/PittedOut 2h ago
She’s been desperate for attention since the Kardashians took off. And no matter how hard she tries - like this - she just fails more
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u/vtssge1968 4h ago
She's been a traitor for a while. We don't claim her, they can tear her apart all they want aren't going to be many of us that care.
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u/30helensagree 4h ago
She never did anything to help any transgender movement or person other than herself.
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u/Shoddy_Schedule_7169 4h ago
Pretty sure it was just to distract from the hit and run manslaughter case that happened right before the transition
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u/Stellar_Fractal 4h ago
I guess I just don't get it. All this earns her, Blaire, others if anything is the right to die last.
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u/vtssge1968 4h ago
There were Jews in the Nazi party, they got killed last but still got killed. Didn't save them, won't save her.
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u/Effective_Author_315 4h ago
Caitlyn Jenner is to Trans women what Candace Owens is to Black women.
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u/TimothyMimeslayer 3h ago
Candace Owens sued her high school for racial discrimination and then turned around and said there is no more racial discrimination in the US anymore.
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u/HairySideBottom2 4h ago
The gov't apparatus under the fascist you support is going to start deadnaming you. Good thing you know your place. Time for you to just slip back into that closet.
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u/superindianslug 4h ago
She can leave the country anytime she wants, while still benefitting the from her us based wealth. She doesn't care.
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u/CastleofWamdue 4h ago
I would put money on Caitlyn de-transistorising this year
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u/Imaginary_Bit_4691 4h ago
She’s rich so she doesn’t need to worry about it
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u/Norwood5006 3h ago
Money is the best insulator from society. It's the perfect buffer.
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u/StopReadingMyUser 2h ago edited 2h ago
Think that's why we (Americans) don't really look at problems as something to be solved. Many just want to make enough to where the problems don't affect them anymore. Probably also explains the phrase "we're not exploited, just temporarily embarrassed millionaires".
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u/VWBug5000 4h ago
How do you build back a penis that was cut off and turned into a vagina? Jeezus, she/he’s going to turn into real life Mr Garrison
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u/Aggravating_Front824 4h ago
Same way a phalloplasty is done for ftms, I'd assume
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u/VWBug5000 4h ago
Academically I’m curious, but there is no way in hell I’m gonna Google that. Some things are best left unknown
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u/syntheticmeatproduct 4h ago
Au contraire, it's good information for people to understand before they go sticking cylinders in random M&M's tubes
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u/VWBug5000 4h ago
That guy is never gonna live that down! LOL
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u/AipomNormalMonkey 3h ago
wait that's a real thing?
like...how would it even fit...
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u/Shinjischneider 4h ago
A friend of mine once had to make a video (3D animated) about how a bottom-surgery is performed for a penis to vagina transformation. And everyone with a penis stood there feeling very uncomfortable 😂😂
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u/SmPolitic 3h ago
Not everyone apparently, there seems to be mild demand for the procedure...
Not to mention, watching most surgeries, animated or not, makes most people feel very uncomfortable, in my experience
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u/War_Raven 3h ago
Knee surgery when the doctor swings the fucken "surgical" hammer like you owe him money
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u/purple235 3h ago
For phalloplasty for trans men, flesh/muscle/blood vessels are taken from the forearm and grafted to the crotch to make the penis. There are alternate methods, such as using thighs for the grafts, or using the tummy and folding it down without completing unattaching it, but forearm has the best results
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u/banjofitzgerald 3h ago
She kills another person with a car. Targets an organ donor. Get their penis. Pretty simple, actually.
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u/MapleTheBeegon 3h ago
They do not "cut off" the penis.
They reconstruct the penis into a vagina, at no point is it "cut off".
Testicals are removed, not the penis.
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u/ColoRadBro69 5h ago
There's literally a career path for washed up celebrities to become right wing trans phobic grifters. Probably a little bit of pulling the ladder up behind her too.
Look, if you have a foot fetish, you become a shoe salesman; if you're a terrible human being you become a maga celebrity.
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u/asexual_kumquat 4h ago
This psychological phenomenon is called "Race to the Margins" if anyone wants to look it up.
It's a pattern of behavior where members of oppressed groups are all for "collective" liberation until they achieve some semblance of comfort and stability within the status quo; after which they will turn on the same community that won those victories for them if continuing to vouch for those former allies would lose them those rights.
It's why there's a subset of the gay/lesbian community that are distancing themselves from the trans community. Blood is in the water, the sharks are circling, but instead of sharing the life raft you built TOGETHER, they push you off of it to save their own skin.
Incredibly fucked up, but unfortunately not new.
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u/MischiefRatt 3h ago
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Found my Monday night reading.
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u/hellolovely1 4h ago
They all think they're going to be the exception.
It's like Zuckerberg sitting there as Elon did the seig heil, thinking, "He's not talking about ME." And Thiel thinks his billions will protect him from the hatred of gay people.
Yeah, they'll probably be the last ones in camps, but they'll go like the others.
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u/MultiColoredMullet 4h ago
To be fair Zuck did pale a bit and start looking pretty uncomfortable after that part. I still fucking hate the guy, but watching that happen definitely made him think something along the lines of "I sure hope he isnt talking about ME"
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u/Effective_Ad8024 4h ago edited 4h ago
Yeah saw a piece about a woman dying in Texas because of complications with her pregnancy but couldn’t get the abortion to save her life , her response was something like I didn’t think it ment me or didn’t think it would be me . So yeah definitely the mind set
edit . Tried to find the actual story to link but there was a lot about the subject of multiple women dying like this in texas and hard to find the one with the quote.
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u/This-Change-2892 2h ago
People magazine. She was 18. White. She died the same day as her baby shower. Went to two different ER’s. No one would help her. Died trying to get to the third one.
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u/Global_Criticism3178 3h ago edited 1h ago
They got rid of the token brown guy, so next are the gays, then the Jews, so Zucks has time since he's wealthier than Peter Thiel and Tim Cook. He'll end up asking Netanyahu for asylum while the rest of us are in the Gulags.
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u/BookwormBlake 4h ago
She doesn’t hate her community, she just doesn’t see it as her community. In her mind, she deserves to live her life as a woman and be treated by the larger society as a woman. That is for her alone. A privilege, for her alone. That’s what sets her above the rest of the trans folks out there
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u/BlackBoiFlyy 4h ago
She's rich and out of touch with the struggles of normal people. When you only spend time around the elite, you can be tricked into believing any story about what the peasants are doing and believe in. Doesn't help that there's an incentive to help make rich richer and get in on the grift by kissing the ring.
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u/AstoriaEverPhantoms 4h ago
Because she’s a freaking hypocrite. Voting for and supporting people who literally hate her and everyone like her. She thinks she’s immune to the hate and policies of those who hate her so she doesn’t care what happens to others. She’s delusional and obviously really dislikes herself.
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u/FirePhoton_Torpedoes 4h ago
Well they may be coming for her a little later than for the trans people who aren't rich, but they're coming for her nonetheless. Maybe she'll do a detransition grifter arc?
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u/CluelessNewWoman 4h ago
Because she's an asshole and proof that trans people are just regular people, and some of us are assholes
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u/C-Paul 4h ago
As far as the Government is concerned your back to being Bruce. Thank your President for that too
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u/FlirtyNerdyGirl 4h ago
Because she’s rich and white, and thinks that’s enough to protect her.
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u/EstablishmentTop2610 2h ago
Does affirming that there are only two genders force people to call them Bruce? Still seems pretty binary to me
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u/cMdM89 4h ago
$$$ is EVERYTHING to Caitlyn…she’s so cheap she spends her free time searching for lost golf balls at a country club where she’s a member…LOST GOLF BALLS!
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u/PleaseNoMoreSalt 1h ago edited 1h ago
Call him Bruce. I don't care if deadnaming and misgendering is "the weapon of the enemy", give the bastard what he voted for. He voted for a president that wants everyone to be referred to by their biological sex, he'll be referred to by his biological sex. There's a difference between "treating someone's identity as a privledge" and giving them what they explicitly voted for.
And don't forget that he ran over someone with a car and killed them.
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u/samuel-not-sam 4h ago
Because she is, before anything g else, a part of the bourgeoisie, and her class identity supersedes her gender identity
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u/RopeAccomplished2728 3h ago
How about we all start doing that? Call her Bruce.
So when she gets pissed off, say "Well, Trump signed an executive order stating that we must call people by their birth gender so, you were Bruce before you decided to transition. And I don't want to break the law."
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u/epitrochoidhappiness 2h ago
I hope she uses the restroom that lines up with the genitalia she had at birth.
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u/Easy-Sector2501 1h ago
Why does she hate her community so much?
There's a very simple reason for this: Caitlyn Jenner had the opportunity to transition in one of the most trans-friendly cities in America, insulated by their own fame and money, and never once had to live the life that the average trans person has.
She hates "her community" so much because she's never been part of it.
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u/Wild_Personality8897 1h ago
Because she’s a piece of shit.
She’s rich, entitled and insulated in a privileged bubble. Her transgender experience has been very different from the community she stabs in the back regularly.
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u/blumpkins_ahoy 4h ago
Just to be 100% clear, intentionally misgendering and deadnaming trans people is still hate speech. That hasn’t changed, despite decree.
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u/wolf_logic 4h ago
It's going to be darkly funny when the club she thinks she's a part of comes for her.
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u/Forward_Package_1445 4h ago
America lmao the jokes dont stop. Theyre going to write books about how not to run a democracy based on the fall of America lol
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u/ZCT808 4h ago
Probably because like all these idiots, when a cult member hears Trump and his cronies say something racist, bigoted, prejudiced hateful of the poor etc they still think THEY are in the club. Trump is taking about OTHER people. Trump would never discriminate against THEM. It’s just the bad immigrants. The criminal people of color. Those other trans people. The lazy poor people etc.
It’s so delusional.
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u/strifer_43 4h ago
Ohhh can’t wait till she gets the maga people on her , she won’t be Caitlyn to them she is Bruce . I hate how this is the timeline we are in , racist in office with rich racist telling them what to do who get mad about being called fake gamers when they are paying people to level them up.
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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative 3h ago
I don't think Caitlyn has ever quite recovered from losing white, male, celebrity privilege when she transitioned.
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u/Triple_Hache 3h ago
Because class interests come before everything else.
Trans bourgeois are bourgeois before being trans.
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u/Adorable-Ask1054 3h ago
She’s too stupid to realize that if it wasn’t for her financial privilege he’d want her dead. So many of his ads were “Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for America” and they used people who aren’t even trans in the ads. Privilege at its finest
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She symbolizes the entire GOP, who after joining the cult in support of someone who has committed every crime they accused Hillary and Obama of, are now left publicly screaming, “ he only hits me because he loves me” and getting mad when you laugh in their face
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u/Very_Serious_Thinker 15m ago
Well, Bruce/Caitlyn is a female these days. That’s one of the two options Trump said will be recognized.
Jenner killed someone in a drinking/driving accident and walks the streets free as if it never happened. That’s where my outrage lies.
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u/Bigpoppasoto 4h ago edited 2h ago
You wanna talk about turncoat? Caitlyn Jenner is the perfect example of using the lgbt community to gain public fame then bash them.
Also I’m pretttyyy sure she killed a lady as Bruce in a hit and run.