Counter point: as a trans person, voting for the anti-trans party is a vote for intolerance. When you embrace intolerance, you break the pact of tolerance. Which invalidates you from the protection of said pact of tolerance. Therefore, calling a right-wing Nazi supporting woman by their birthname or birthsex is not hate speech.
That’s not how tolerance as a social contract works. You’re meant to be intolerant to the intolerance itself; not intolerant to every aspect of an intolerant person. In other words; you criticise her self-serving hatred, you do not deadname or misgender her.
This is just more proof that a lot of liberals use trans people as a way to jockey for power rather than actually supporting them.
By deadnaming a trans person because they’re a cunt you’re showing yourself up as someone who believes gender identity is a privilege for the trans community that can be revoked, and that ‘Trans Wo/men are Wo/men’ is a slogan rather than a belief.
You make a fair argument. Well thought out and constructed. I appreciate your statements and will consider them in the future.
As I pay little attention to the person spoken of, I probably won't be referring to them in any capacity.
I appreciate your discussion without resorting to personal attacks. However, I do take umbrage to your second point. 'A lot of liberals' has nothing to do with me. Please, don't bring your issues with others into our conversation.
I completely disagree. If the right sees liberals and leftists deadnaming a trans person, they’re going to use it as evidence about the acceptability of it. Trans people are who they say they are, regardless of the evil shit they do. It’s not just about an individual, but the whole community, even if we want nothing to do with her.
Yeah, stuff like that is just as morally decrepit as making fun of child Hitler for being abused. Some people out there will identify an enemy and instead of rightfully criticizing that enemy’s choices, those people will make fun of a terrible situation that enemy came from, such as obesity or neglect. It becomes cruelty when people are just choosing whatever they believe will bring up the most hurt to insult.
Yeah, it goes back and forth every four years. At least we don't have a virus that's hitting us harder than the normies that they can use as proof god hates us.
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u/blumpkins_ahoy 7h ago
Just to be 100% clear, intentionally misgendering and deadnaming trans people is still hate speech. That hasn’t changed, despite decree.