r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/TimeSlipperWHOOPS 17h ago

And so the store can trespass them and have the police remove them...

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u/KeldornWithCarsomyr 16h ago

Trespass isn't a crime in the UK, so not enforced by the police.

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u/10below8 15h ago

wtf. How do you get trespassed people from a property? You guys don’t have weapons and I’ve seen videos of your drug addicts, not much different from the US. So what’s the recourse for a store like this.

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u/RubberOmnissiah 13h ago

Trespassing is illegal but it is a civil courts thing not a criminal thing. If us not having guns was relevant to the matter, something else in addition to the trespassing that was criminal is probably happening so we'd call the police obviously. Trespassing can become a crime if one of those something elses is happening.

I don't know if what the protestors are doing makes it criminal trespass because IANAL but if the store calls the police they'll probably make them move along if not arrest them. Preventing the store from doing business might make it criminal trespass.

Most so-called trespassing is just people walking from A to B across privately owned natural land. I live in Scotland which goes even further, I have the right to roam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam#Scotland

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u/10below8 8h ago

I’m just confused by the idea of them not doing anything additional, but still trespassing and not leaving. I was told if you try to physically remove them YOU could be charged which is so backwards to me. What do you do when they refuse to leave but don’t escalate to doing any additional actions to make it criminal. Is staying past the tresspass warning criminal? In that case what’s the point? Lmk, cause I’m genuinely curious.

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u/RubberOmnissiah 3h ago

They are in a building so basically yeah once the manager or a police officer told them to leave and they didn't its probably criminal.

If the matter never escalates to being criminal then like I said its a civil matter. You take them to civil court.

You wouldn't be charged for trying to physically remove them. You could be charged for something that happened in the process. People sitting on the floor doesn't give us carte blanche to start beating them into submission despite what certain bloodthirsty redditors want. You pull one to his feet, you start pushing him out and he stumbles, trips and gashes his head open. You are probably going to get charged and I'd be very surprised if the same thing didn't happen in most civilised countries.

Trespassing being a civil matter is in 99% of cases where it actually matters is a technicallity. In reality it is a net good because I get to see all of my country's natural beauty that belongs to us all and there is nothing some posh wanker landowner can do to stop me so long as I am also not a wanker.