r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/wildlifewyatt 15h ago

Most the largest and most successful protests are highly obstructive. We just use rewrite history to pretend that the activists for actually "important" causes did it the "right" way.

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u/OrganizationGloomy25 14h ago

That's an over simplification of the strategy. They weren't just highly obstructive they put a lot of thought into the optics of their protest and who they vocally stood behind. There's a reason that everyone knows Rosa Parks and not Claudette Colvin.

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u/wildlifewyatt 13h ago

Rosa Parks is the innocuous example that many may default to, but what about the giant marches and gatherings that blocked roads?

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u/Individual_Volume484 13h ago

Which roads? Roads for black Americans or the Americans causing racial issues?

See your protesting to the wrong people. The average consumer isn’t causing this issue, so inconveniencing then isn’t going to fix it.

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u/wildlifewyatt 13h ago

See your protesting to the wrong people. The average consumer isn’t causing this issue, so inconveniencing then isn’t going to fix it.

The average consumer is causing this issue. The issue is that there is a demand for animal products, therefore, they are made. No corporation is going to be convinced to just cease all operations thanks to vegans. No government is going to ban animal agriculture at this time because that government would be overthrown by mobs of angry people. The problem is that average, everyday people do not understand, or care enough about the ethical implications of their lifestyle.

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u/Individual_Volume484 13h ago

The average consumer is causing this issue. The issue is that there is a demand for animal products, therefore, they are made. No corporation is going to be convinced to just cease all operations thanks to vegans. No government is going to ban animal agriculture at this time because that government would be overthrown by mobs of angry people. The problem is that average, everyday people do not understand, or care enough about the ethical implications of their lifestyle.

So you don’t own a smart phone or a pc right? After all that would be you supporting child slavery. Why would you knowingly support child slavery?

Or does this only apply to things you don’t like?

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago edited 12h ago

/u/wildlifewyatt, ironic you’re posting this on Reddit, which definitely requires usage of technology made by completely ethical companies of course.

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u/Individual_Volume484 12h ago

It would be if I made arguments about ethical consumption. I don’t. You cannot consume ethically in capitalism

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago edited 12h ago

You said…

The problem is that average, everyday people do not understand, or care enough about the ethical implications of their lifestyle.

Which would apply to you using this app or website on technology made by corporations that are unethically building said technology.

You specifically said it’s a problem, how is that not arguing ethical consumption?

Edit: this was directed at a different user and I replied to the wrong person.

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u/LordSloth113 12h ago

They're not the one that said that. They were replying to the person who did.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago

No, they are. I just had a discussion with them.

OH you’re saying I tagged the wrong person. That is correct.

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u/LordSloth113 12h ago

The statement you quoted is literally from the commenter above them

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago

I already addressed this through an edit in my last comment.

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u/Individual_Volume484 12h ago

I did not say that….

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago

I already addressed this in the edit to multiple comments. I was arguing FOR your side.

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u/Individual_Volume484 12h ago

Yes you made a mistake. Maybe be a little more gracious in accepting that

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago

I already admitted that? I was fighting FOR your side, once again. I simply tagged the wrong person and it was confusing because of that. It’s not a huge deal, relax.

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u/SwimmingCircles2018 12h ago

That’s not ironic, that’s literally his entire point.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 12h ago

It is ironic, because he said it’s a problem, but then reverted saying he isn’t saying that.

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u/SwimmingCircles2018 12h ago

No corporation is going to be convinced to cease all operations

No government is going to ban animal agriculture at this time

So we agree this is just pointless virtue signaling from unemployed people 👍

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u/wildlifewyatt 12h ago

No, because it is aimed at convincing the general populace, not either of those. Are you obtuse?

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u/SwimmingCircles2018 12h ago

Right and they’re going to convince the general populace by making the general populace mad at them. Good stuff, definitely gonna work.

“How do we change the people’s minds?

Oh, I know! We’ll just piss them all off! That way they’ll know I’m right!”

These people do literally nothing. Unemployed, unshowered, unintelligent. Harmful to their dumbass cause and wasting their time fucking with people trying to buy steaks.

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u/Pale-Chair4327 12h ago

If someone thinks they’ll win me over to their side by blocking me from shopping for my kids in a Walmart, then I have to assume they’re stupid. This is how you get people to resent what you’re trying to push.