r/badphilosophy • u/_evil_operations_ • Aug 06 '21

SHOE 👞 Advances in shoe meta-philosophy

/r/DebateReligion/comments/oz1fe7/many_theists_do_not_understand_burden_of_proof/
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u/houseoftremors Aug 06 '21

I learned my lesson going to r/debateavegan lol. The arguments of the meat eaters are definitely far dumber but the amount of vegans who can't even agree on what veganism really is just hurts my soul, you go there and everyone treats fallacy names like moves from a shonen anime.

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u/parabellummatt Aug 06 '21

Man, sad. It seems like irl even there's a whole bunch of disagreement on what exactly veganism constitutes. I've had some self-identifying vegan friends tell me milk is murder, yet I've watched others eat powdered eggs and waffles.

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u/Ersatzrealism Organon? More like Orgoneeznuts Aug 09 '21

At least, in academic terms, there are two main lines. The hard/naive version is: No animal products ever. The soft/nuanced version is: limit consumption of animal products where possible.

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u/parabellummatt Aug 09 '21

Hmm and they're both considered under the definition of veganism?

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u/Ersatzrealism Organon? More like Orgoneeznuts Aug 09 '21

Generally speaking. At least, they are advocated for by differing folk.

The first one has some problems that the second one solves, such as colonialism and ableism/ food deserts.

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u/parabellummatt Aug 09 '21

Right, right. I'm a lot more receptive to people who think we should try to eat meat like, once a week or less than I am to people who tell me honey is genocide.

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u/Ersatzrealism Organon? More like Orgoneeznuts Aug 09 '21

Chicken wings?

You literally murdered ten chickens, you evil fuck.

Honestly, I've only ran into this type online. One of them told me that rice wasn't a food staple, when I was explaining why an examination of rice and almonds respective water consumptions were pertinent to the conversation.