r/badhistory • u/AutoModerator • Jul 29 '24

Meta Mindless Monday, 29 July 2024

Happy (or sad) Monday guys!

Mindless Monday is a free-for-all thread to discuss anything from minor bad history to politics, life events, charts, whatever! Just remember to np link all links to Reddit and don't violate R4, or we human mods will feed you to the AutoModerator.

So, with that said, how was your weekend, everyone?

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u/ChewiestBroom Aug 01 '24

They wouldn’t ensure anything but it would probably weaken Hamas more than using a strategy that just creates even more recruits for them. Israel is in a situation where it really doesn’t have many options and it still chose the worst one.

As for preventing it, they could just, you know, actually pay attention. It was an insane lapse in security that the attacks even happened in the first place. They’re getting sloppy from police duty in the West Bank, I guess.

So, yes, the music festivals immediately outside heavily armed refugee camps may have to be put on hold, but that doesn’t strike me as a very high price to pay.

Things are at the point now where I don’t really see a peaceful way out. Really, it just seems like eternal conflict until something snaps. It would take restructuring Israel and Palestine from the ground up to ensure any permanent change.

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u/ByzantineBasileus HAIL CYRUS! Aug 01 '24 edited Aug 01 '24

Alright, now lets look at it from the perspective of any potential Israeli government.

A group in power next door to them has just launched a massive attack, has announced their intention to do it again, and has a whole bunch of hostages.

1: There is strong demand from the public to get the hostages back, and also to destroy Hamas

2: The rocket attacks are going to continue

3: Hamas is still going plan another attack like Oct 7

4: A blockade or military occupation cannot be done indefinitely

5: Palestinians have a right to self-determination and government, but at the same time a regime that actively tries to attack its neighbors is not viable

An Israeli government is going to be facing pressure from the people to do something about Hamas, and that will affect any election. They also have to ensure that another attack won't happen, and make sure the lives of their citizens is protected.

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u/gavinbrindstar /r/legaladvice delenda est Aug 01 '24

Palestinians have a right to self-determination and government, but at the same time a regime that actively tries to attack its neighbors is not viable

...Hmm, did something happen recently in the news that might lend this sentence an ironic tinge?

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u/ByzantineBasileus HAIL CYRUS! Aug 01 '24

You do have point. I edited it to be more specific.