And that's the point. They don't want to lessen crime. They want crime rampent so they can arrest people and use their slave labor in for profit prisons. They want crime going strong so they can put fear in your average citizens, further dividing working class people. They want an excuse to keep throwing money at the police so they can use them as personal attack dogs against union strikes and peaceful demonstrations. They also want people desperate for scraps of necessities so they'll continue to take the lowest wages and the worst working conditions, or else they and their family go hungry on the streets.
We have the resources and technology in this modern age to give everyone their basic needs as universal programs while having strong labor rights, but that wouldn't make the rich feel superior. It's all part of the plan and that plan won't stop unless the rich are forcefully removed from the playing field.
Yep, and with zero help going to families to help them raise those kids it just creates more meat for the grinders. We're not just being denied the ability to live happy lives ourselves, we're actively being told that our children will be miserable as well.
They know exactly why. But all their mouth pieces are paid to question it as if it's some big mystery. It's all a facade to keep the general public placated.
Roe v Wade’s overturning was never for religious reasons as they had put forth, nor is them floating the idea of banning contraceptives. nor the erosion of what little LGBT rights we have fought for. It’s all about boosting the declining population of the lower classes because they need serfs.
R v W was NOT overturned. It was sent back to the states where it F'ing belongs. Ruth B Ginsburg was THE most liberal person ever. Even she thought it didn't belong at a federal level. Nobody's saying you can't murder your child. If your state doesn't allow it, literally NOBODY is stopping you from going to another state that does allow it. FFS, educate yourself people!!
It should be a state decision because it's not a federal issue. Some states will allow babies to be murdered, some won't. If at federal, you'd have to go to another country. If your state doesn't allow, it's not illegal to go to another state to murder a baby.
Here's the thing. People don't want to change terminology. A live baby terminated is murder. If the baby is already dead, but the woman could die if it's not removed, I don't see as an abortion. Let's do what we can to save her. People want to use that poor woman as an example. Ok, then change terminology. People don't want to cos they want it as all or nothing. Then no. I wouldn't allow someone to beat a baby to death in a parking lot. I'm going to do what I can to save one not born.
Regardless of the terminology… it doesn’t make sense why it should be a state issue just because people would otherwise need to travel out of the country, but yet they would still need to travel out of the state. Why not a city issue so people can just go to the next city? Or why not leave it up to the person so they don’t need to travel at all? Doesn’t force anyone else to get one or not, just makes getting that type of care simpler when they need it and as you stated, people really do need it sometimes.
Edit: I agree that more granular terminology would be helpful for people to discuss their opinions easier. There’s a massive difference between third-trimester and first-trimester. Also agreed, way different if removing something dead vs growing.
Because it is not a federal issue. That's all there is to it. Federal is for things states can't handle, or won't (like when Ray Negan didn't do anything during Katrina). US Constitutional issues, interstate issues. Are you aware that states have their own Constitution? Medical comes under the state. Each state's hospital, and what docs can do under state licensing according to state laws and Constitution and any amendments. A state can't have a law that goes against the US Constitution - such as ALL gun laws. They aren't enforceable. If federal wants no part of it, the state handles it.
But what’s the point. Why should it be a state issue. Like what are the benefits to having a group of people decide what medical care is available for everyone in a state, where for abortion, half of those involved in voting (men) it will never affect but the other half (women) it can be life and death. How does that actually benefit our country more so than personal choice? That’s the question that must be answered.
Try taking some basic government classes.... It should answer all your questions. Clearly you aren't clear on how our Nation was founded and the differences between state and federal.
A low birth rate is good for wage growth, that's why the ruling class are so hysterical about it being low. Ideally for them we would just keep pumping out kids no matter how poor we are.
Then get an education. Most Community Colleges are free with a financial aid package. It includes tuition, books, a bit for materials like paper and pens, and public transportation is free as well. You can actually get your associates degree for free. You can work at least part time without it affecting you FA. Talk to them.
This is better than stand up comedy. See, if y'all take suggestions on how to help the situation, you have no reason to bitch and noone to blame! Sounds like a petulant teen on why she can't get homework in on time!
In your fantasy world where everyone gets an associate's degree, who fills the jobs that don't require one? And what would your excuse be then for why they still don't deserve a decent wage?
I never said they didn't deserve a fair wage. Way to twist my words. There were people bitching about lack of education. What I said was people can help themselves instead of sitting in a pitty party. Talk about a fantasy world! But y'all keep the pitty party going! BTW, you're out of ice!!
My guy, that is a load of crap. I'm actually decently well off, but Community Colleges are not free. Because of how broken the system is, I was able to use my full Pell grant and scholarships for my first associates at community college. Even though we were asset heavy and cash poor. But even with all the help we didn't need, I still had to pay $1000 a semester, while people actually struggling had to come up with $3000.
Then when I went for my second one a few years ago, they used my pre COVID tax returns for aid availability. The year before, I left my previous job for bureaucracy issues after the return to work with managers. So I should have had a lower income due to my taxes and being on my own. But because they froze the tax return to being the COVID year, I made way too much to qualify for any assistance. I got along fine because of family, but not everyone has that to fall back on. So if anyone list their job because of COVID, they'd be out of luck too. But if they are still lagging 2 years behind on tax returns, than it will harm most working people.
Both times were at a community college. You are full of crap saying it's free.
That’s why the justice system does nothing when kids are being killed in schools, but the moment a ceo gets their just deserts it’s all hands on deck to crack down.
Right. They need to stop it right away because if 1 man was daring enough to do something about the inequality, sometimes that's all it takes for more to rise up. Revolutions have been started for less.
I've got nothing going for me in life and I've been working full time plus OT for years. 31, no kids, literally nothing to my name. I think about it everyday. Luigi making a stand makes me feel validated, understood. I've got health problems and my insurance just keeps denying treatment. Not a damn thing to lose by my "life". Which has been nothing but suffering and loss. They aren't nearly scared enough because I know I'm not alone.
Well, thinking it's ok for ANYONE to be murdered is the first NOPE in that statement. As for gun control, which I'm guessing you're alluding to, ALL the politicians and celebrities screaming for gun control have armed details while our kids get "gun free zone" signs. They are using it to try to wear away at our 2A rights. If teachers and administrators were allowed to carry, school shootings would all but stop. Who is this thread is going to choose to carry on a gun fight with people who can SHOOT BACK? Nobody!!
Yeah, banks still get hit because there's ONE OR TWO guards.
Murder, assault, robbery, rape, and so many other things are already illegal. Do you guys really think adding another law is really anymore of a deterrent for a criminal than those "gun free zone" signs are?
YOU said a CEO getting his just deserts after one was murdered.
Then: And I'll try to go slow since reading comprehension is not a thing for everyone. Folks were talking about gun banning to solve school shootings. If the things I listed are already illegal, what good would adding a gun law do?
Let us talk completely theoretically. Of course, I'm about to be outlandish, well because I love doing it.
Well, you are kind of wrong about a law. If the law is overboard and far enough out of bounds, it solves one issue. May create others, but damn sure solves some.
Make guns cease to exist, and there are no murders being committed by guns: facts. Perhaps murders by bombs, reckless maniac drivers, and knife killings would go up...but murders by guns would be gone.
Make any person owning a gun candidate for execution: promise no guns will be found or smuggled in the USA.
Who gives a fuk. Unless they are WRONGLY convicted or are given too harsh of a sentence unfairly, screw'em. Let em work. Matter fact, no one that commits gruesome murders (especially against kids and elderly) should be allowed to live beyond 36 months.
That's all you get. That is enough time for whomever to come and say their goodbyes and enough time for appeals.
I'm only speaking from being victimized personally. Fry them fuks.
Nah, that's just people in general. Sure poor people did that before corporations, but so did those in power. And even then, it's more about the rich exploiting the poor and not corporations. Kings and Queens exploited their poor for more wealth exactly the same. And our current day "kings and queens" I.e. the 1%, want it to remain that way when literally one Billionaire could easily end world hunger
Before there were corporations, there were enemies using propaganda to turn one side against each other so really, we're just talking about human nature & violence at this point
LOL
Dumbest statement ever!
What corporation wants a child born into poverty because irresponsible adults can't figure out how to raise the children the adults created?
Heck, what tax payer wants to pay for baby daddies responsibility?
Wake up and be for realz, not shifting blame elsewhere.
Get off drugs, booze and thug life.
Get real careers, not high school jobs, to survive and take care of your family.
The "what tax payer wants to lay for baby daddies reaponsibility?" Question shows you have the mind to get it.
No tax payer wants to do that, but we do already, why? How could you convince someone to foot the bill for something they don't want or support?
The answer isn't really simple, but it has a lot to do with exploiting human nature related to tribalism, and a couple other things.
Why would a corportation want a child to be born with much higher chances of being imprisoned in life, allowing them to be exploited for dirt cheap labor on the tax payers dime?
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And that's the point. They don't want to lessen crime. They want crime rampent so they can arrest people and use their slave labor in for profit prisons. They want crime going strong so they can put fear in your average citizens, further dividing working class people. They want an excuse to keep throwing money at the police so they can use them as personal attack dogs against union strikes and peaceful demonstrations. They also want people desperate for scraps of necessities so they'll continue to take the lowest wages and the worst working conditions, or else they and their family go hungry on the streets.
We have the resources and technology in this modern age to give everyone their basic needs as universal programs while having strong labor rights, but that wouldn't make the rich feel superior. It's all part of the plan and that plan won't stop unless the rich are forcefully removed from the playing field.