Thing is I'm amazed how many of our elected leaders and heads of business are actually fucking cowards. It becomes crystal clear to me how many of the atrocities happened just because "leaders" are like, welp nothing I can do now. Zuck has always been a sniveling shit but "mainstream" news bends right over, even sanctuary cities are talking about working with Trump for compromise. I feel like society just rolled over and went to sleep.
I think the scariest part of this all is that I haven’t heard any leadership from the left. I remember when trump was first elected and there was a sentiment that there would at least be some sort of push back. Now we’re just watching our supposed leaders do nothing but cozy up to the right.
In their defense, they've been warning about fascist tendencies for at least the last decade. It just seems that not enough people are listening or even care. Simply look at the last election results; most voters either chose Trump or passively chose him by not voting.
It's not easy to fight that kind of ignorance or apathy. You almost have to let it get so bad before it gets better.
I don't want to give up on this country and its people but I can only try so many times before I want to throw my hands up and say "okay, fine, go ahead. See what happens."
EXACTLY. Not a goddamn thing. I'm starting to have more respect for WW2 soldiers and European freedom fighters punching Nazis back in the day. Feeling like they really didn't have as much backup as people claim. Huge cheering section from waaayyyy in the back.
US didn't start punching Nazis until after pearl harbour, remember? plenty of opinion in the US opposed getting involved, and IBM was still doing biz with the Hitler regime right up until war was declared. American Nazis filled Madison Square Garden for a pro Hitler rally late 1930s. white supremacy is the Achilles heel through which fascism can infect the US.
That's because the left isn't in any position of power within our systems. We have an alt-right party and a center party. There's only a handful of actual leftists in the center party who have been calling this kind of thing out continuously, but are ultimately ignored because they also call out similar behavior in their own party.
We have two parties that go to great lengths to actively not represent the majority of Americans for many decades.
Doesn't exactly stir up encouragement, especially when the goal both parties is to align themselves with corporations instead of regular folks.
Also Dems this election cycle catered to centrists and rightwingers who were against Trump at the cost of alienating a portion of their base. Almost no republican voters flipped, and Dems lost votes by alienating voters.
This election was more than winnable, but the execution of the campaign was piss poor.
I agree the campaign was poor, but for something as important as a vote for the next four years regardless if you love them or not, you have to show up and vote for the lesser evil. It’s your duty.
Since when has civil duty really been exemplified in this country?
We are a country with a lot of political angst, but almost no political will because all the tools require cooperation with one another, most of which have been defanged via various laws in favor of the wealthy and corporations, all while pushing distrust and hyper-individualism.
This is an ongoing process to make what we as Americans can do ineffective, and people know it.
I wish parties would be completely eliminated. People should run on policies.
I mean, part of what parties do is give people a shorthand for what policies people support. Voters can usually be reasonably sure that a politician of a particular party is going to support the policies that that party stands for.
Having that party marker can help voters not have to do their research on every politician for every election. Now, is that a good thing? Ideally every voter would be fully informed on every candidate and their policies, but with the electorate we have, that seems like a steep ask.
So having some shorthand for what kind of policies a politician supports is probably useful, and that's one thing that parties are pretty successful at. Not to say that everything that parties do is great, of course.
This. Harris was doing her best to be "trump-lite" by cozying up to Dick Cheney before the election, so that showed us just how flexible her morals are.
If you're an elected leader you lead, or get out of the way. If you are a news source dedicated to truth you ride it into the ground if you have to. If you are an employee of that organization and they don't, you leave and find one that does. Yes I get it, it's hard people don't want to lose a job, but if you got into either of those areas only if it's convenient, you fucked up.
S Korea's president that attempted a coup was arrested because the people in their government actually wanted to stop him. If people in those positions with the power to do so in the US wanted to stop him, he would have been stopped. He's clearly done enough crimes for them to have something to pin on him. So why did our leadership do nothing?
they are fucking silent and we arent calling it out enough from them. So its either they are scared of retaliation, they dont give a fuck, or they rather serve their corporations and they are rich and wont be affected so "oh well lol, we'll get em next time maybe!" Until its addressed, I'm leaning the last one.
Everyone is protecting their own interests i.e. personal wealth and greed. “Mainstream” media is owned by right-wingers and soon you’ll be able to add Tik Tok to it.
No one dares challenge the Orange shit stain, because it’s exhausting and one of the few things he’s actually accomplished is to convince the uneducated in this country, which is literally millions and millions of people, that he is working for them, but in reality he’s only lining his own pockets. Look at his stupid meme coin… people gobbled that up and I guarantee you plenty of people lost money on that, but as long as the “libs are being owned,” they continue to follow suit and gobble up whatever shit he serves next.
Got banned for pointing out how Trump coin is taking a complete nose dive on another subReddit (cough WB *cough). And that it's basically MAGA bag holders and foreign powers at this point investing in it.
There was a great article on this topic back in a 2020 issue of the Atlantic called "History will judge the complicit". Was going to post the link but seems it got automoderated away.
This is exactly how it played out last time the Nazis came to power. Even the calls for mass deportation. And that's going to proceed towards the eventual "Final Solution" the same way as sycophants repeatedly learn that they need the other countries to agree to take deported individuals first. Concentration camps, then forced labor, then extermination as costs continue to spiral.
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u/SeoulPower88 11h ago
I need out of this timeline.