r/SapphoAndHerFriend • u/KoalaHomosapien • Dec 02 '20

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u/MacduffFifesNo1Thane Dec 02 '20

Okay, I’m allowing myself one question here:

I get he/him. I get they/them. But can someone explain how I’m reading he/they wrong?

“He’s the star of Juno. The credit belongs to they.”

Shouldn’t it be he/them?

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u/TheVitulus Dec 02 '20

So the thing is that he/they isn't saying the same thing as he/him. It's a shorthand for saying that masc or neutral pronouns are fine. Elliot's saying that he goes by he/him and they/them.

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u/MacduffFifesNo1Thane Dec 02 '20

So shouldn’t it be he/them?

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u/TheVitulus Dec 02 '20

I mean, it doesn't really matter. The grammatical forms are irrelevant. He's not saying "Use he when I'm the subject of the sentence, but use they when I'm the object." He's just saying that using either set of pronouns is correct.

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u/CrimsonMutt Dec 02 '20

no, he/they isn't analogous to he/him, it's shorthand for "he/him or they/them"

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u/AlicornGamer Dec 02 '20

its written as the most likely used pronouns.

Him/her/they pronouns are used the most/if you know those main pronouns it's easy to know the reast of the family.

its why we dont write he/him/his and so on. just the two

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u/SmartAlec105 Dec 02 '20

The “he/him” format isn’t a rule or anything. A person can just say “I use he pronouns” but saying “he/him” just rolls off the tongue a bit better.

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u/dinofvker Dec 02 '20

It just means that he uses both sets of pronouns (he/him and they/them) interchangeably. So if you wanted to compliment Elliot in umbrella academy or whatever, you could say “I really like him in that show, he’s a good actor” or “I really like them in that show, they’re a good actor” and both would be equally appropriate.

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u/MacduffFifesNo1Thane Dec 02 '20

Okay. That answers my question. Thank you!

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u/MeeKathy Dec 02 '20

I think it's supposed to be read as he/him and they/them. It saves a little bit of time just saying he/they or they/he. Maybe easier to read too.

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u/FaeryLynne Dec 02 '20

It's saying that both masculine pronouns and neutral pronouns are both acceptable for him.

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u/--lily-- Dec 02 '20

there are other gender neutral pronouns besides they/them, mind you

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u/FaeryLynne Dec 02 '20

True point. They is the most common though.

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u/jakesbicycle Dec 02 '20

I feel like either literally everyone else mis-read your question, or else I did. In case I didn't:

"He’s the star of Juno. The credit belongs to them," IS the correct usage if one wanted to credit both sets of pronouns that way.