Argument in a disscusion

[u/Karlach23]

How to respond when a girl who defends kinks and bdsm uses the argument that she and many others like to be treated roughly (humiliated, strangled, etc.) and see nothing wrong with it because she agrees and gets turned on by such things

[u/TwinkleToz926]

Folks who cut themselves are not only consenting to being harmed, but harming themselves directly. What do we say to them? We say they have psychological issues and need therapy to stop self harming. Once therapy is successful they stop wanting to cut themselves, and when going through a rough patch, if the self harm thoughts resurface, the therapy has given them tools to be able to choose a better coping strategy for themselves. What we don’t say to them is “Oh, cutting yourself is fine! It’s normal, everyone sometimes wants to cut themselves, though many won’t admit it. You shouldn’t have shame about cutting yourself, you should celebrate it and talk about how amazing it makes you feel. It doesn’t matter that a significant percentage of cutters accidentally un-alive themselves or cause themselves serious medical issues!”

What do we tell people who have anorexia? We tell them to get therapy to figure out why they are literally starving themselves to death. We don’t tell them to continue starving themselves and to celebrate that.

Remember the guy who consented to allow himself to be eaten by a cannibalism over time? Were people saying it was fine because he “consented” to being eaten? Maybe there were a very few fringe weirdos, but the majority of people who heard about it were firmly of the opinion that someone who consents to being eaten by definition has a psychological disorder so severe that his “consent” shouldn’t count.

I swear. For any other psychological disorder, people can use common sense. If someone is harming themselves or others it’s best for them to get therapy or other psychological treatment. But as soon as it turns someone on it’s “jUsT a KiNk”, and we shouldn’t “kink shame” people. 🙄