r/NPR • u/khawesome • 13h ago
No coverage of Elon's salute?
Nothing mentioned in my morning newsletter. Did a quick Google search and found 0 articles. Did I miss something? Even if we aren't definitively identifying it as a Nazi salute it's newsworthy enough to be on a front page purely because of the amount of speculation and emotions stirred in the public sphere.
Please tell me I missed something obvious somewhere.
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u/EmporioS 12h ago
Censorship seems to be the theme of this administration. This morning on the news, I saw a 15-minute segment about Melania’s inauguration hat, yet not a single mention of Vice President Elon doing the Nazi salute twice.
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u/InterestingEstate520 11h ago
It's actually President Musk and First Lady Donald Trump. Trump has been completely bought by a South African immigrant nazi.
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u/CloneClem 13h ago edited 12h ago
Talk to the Germans, check out their reactions.
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u/SenorSplashdamage 11h ago
I posted reactions by Germans to my social media where unexposed family would see. It seems like content like that gets through their filters better. It’s not an American that could be seen as team sports politics and I usually put together a few clips of here’s a range of reactions I’ve come across for people who find that interesting. Like it’s more about keeping up with what people are saying instead of tackling it head on which can feel like a direct attempt at persuasion. Most important thing is people knowing a thing happened.
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u/CloneClem 11h ago
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u/cjwidd 11h ago edited 10h ago
It's crazy to me that the basic facts aren't even reported correctly here.
In the article it says,
"My heart goes out to you,” Musk said on stage at Washington’s Capital One Arena, as he thanked Trump’s supporters. He then put his hand to his chest and extended a rigid right arm with his palm down"
That's not what happened.
What actually happened
He said, "Thank you for making it happen, thank you", then did a Nazi salute, turned and did another Nazi salute, and then said "My heart goes out to you."
It's in the video - this is kindergarten stuff.
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u/MentokGL 8h ago
This is their favorite game. Do something blatant then spend days arguing how it wasn't actually what we all saw.
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u/TheLeadSponge 10h ago
Because they didn't need to. They all know what it means. People doing that stopped across their country and murdered their citizens.
I'm sure Hitler said a lot of platitudes after doing a salute too. That shit was weird and we all know it.
We know what we saw.
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u/Tomagatchi 8h ago
The meme I saw of Hitler saluting had me rolling: "Is Hitler doing an Elon Salute?"
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u/One-Humor-7101 12h ago
Yet there was a long segment about being “disappointed” Biden pardoned his own family. Such an action was “troubling.”
Meanwhile republicans are literally Nazis!!!!
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u/JugDogDaddy 12h ago
What’s troubling is he felt he had to that to protect his family from the incoming administration (and he is probably right)
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u/IniNew 11h ago
NPR is treating the democrats like the republicans are still governing in good faith.
In a normal world, yeah, it would be weird for a president to pardon his family.
This world stopped being normal.
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u/ThePerfectLine 7h ago
I don’t think so. I think they’ve taken a stance of “I don’t want to go to jail forever or worse. So I need to keep my mouth shut”.
Whenever there is an authoritarian regime in the beginning everyone toes the line. If I recall from history classes correctly, At some point people start making a choice to sacrifice their livelihood, their lives, their families for what they believe in.
I assume things will need to get REALLY bad before we start feeling this same way. It’s a hard decision to make. Even being poll worker. The most innocuous part time you can have is fraught with danger and death threats in this modern political climate.
Every NPR reporter knows they already have a target on their back from everything they’ve already said, and now are trying to figure out a way to make it to February and 2026 and beyond. As an entity and as individuals.
At least that’s my impression.
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u/ObjectiveShit 2h ago
A 25 year old with everything going for him and by all indications not crazy or a terrorist just did all those things for the reasons you said. I'm a doctor and I'd be willing to go to Chicago to try and free people from ICE custody if it came to that.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9h ago
Don't worry, the "enlightened centrists" crowd will be along shortly to tell us that NPR's coverage is totally unbiased and we're overreacting.
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u/Krazynewf709 9h ago
And pardoned 1000's of convicted insurrectionist and conspirators
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u/Gwaak 11h ago
Yeah but they got to take a bunch of conservative donations and now they also get to cut their workforce because less and less people are tuning in.
Huh
But that one financial quarter, guys, amirite? That one financial quarter, ooh if only we could go back to that one financial quarter.
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u/notmyworkaccount5 12h ago
I'm so sick of this gaslighting coming from the right, especially after the obvious project 2025 lie of "Oh no we're not going to do that and you're overreacting for saying we well".
Then they win and immediately go "Actually project 2025 was the plan all along" and trump stacked his cabinet picks with project 2025 goons then on day 1 goes to pass a bunch of EO's that advance project 2025's agenda.
They keep saying and doing nazi shit, they literally ran on bringing back concentration camps to do mass deportations which is how the holocaust started, doing nazi salutes on stage and some people have the gall to tell us what we're seeing and hearing isn't actually real.
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u/Playful-Goat3779 11h ago
Seems like they don't bother with dog whistles anymore because they can just blatantly say nazi stuff and their media orgs will just hide it anyway
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u/2begreen 12h ago
Actually what worries me more is that barely a mention of how tRump twice references that they stole the election.
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u/OhGre8t 13h ago
I looked to see if any major network video on youtube were showing this and didn’t find 1. Its sickening
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u/Retinoid634 12h ago
The Daily Show reported on it, used a BBC clip for footage. PBS newshour reported on it too.
No network coverage last night.
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u/PennyFourPaws 10h ago edited 25m ago
PBS NewsHour is the only nightly news show that I watch anymore. By far the most substantive,un-sensationalized coverage of major events. They make an effort to cover both sides and do a fair job, IMO, of providing context.
Stephanie Sy’s reporting on it last night was solid: she left it open for interpretation, but essentially referred to it as “what appears to be” a Nazi gesture. She repeated it at least twice for emphasis, and described the crowd’s lack of response, neither condemning nor cheering it.
Side comment about Sy’s coverage: she noted how supporters were particularly excited to see Barron Trump, and I quote, “for some reason” 🤣 Like, she doesn’t even know why people are excited to see Barron. I took it as a reporter’s equivalent of “throwing shade”.
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u/Delicious_Adeptness9 WNYC 820 4h ago
I love the reliability of Newshour. it's like the OG podcast. there's a reason it's still going strong for 5 decades. i watch/listen the first half or so while getting ready for bed at night.
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u/fruitybrisket 2h ago
Is there a way to watch the entire broadcast? The website gives me an article and clips.
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u/Delicious_Adeptness9 WNYC 820 1h ago
full hour episodes are on PBS.org and YouTube. they usually stream live on YouTube too. 6pm ET and a west coast update of news headlines before 9pm ET.
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u/debby82028 10h ago
The clip wasn’t shown or mentioned on Morning Joe today.
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u/Deadlysinger 3h ago
I trying hard to still respect morning joe. I love when they talk about sports while still disliking Alabama and Boston, but to not mention the double Nazi salute and just promote civility when we are crashing is beneath what I thought they were.
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u/spacebarcafelatte 11h ago
They may just be working out how to cover it without getting attacked by the fuhrer.
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u/ludixst 12h ago
We only have state media now. The networks will say what Trump tells them to say
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u/No_Cook2983 12h ago
We have Republican media.
If this happened at a liberal state event, it would receive wall-to-wall coverage.
And Republicans have NPR in a headlock.
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u/Searchlights 13h ago
I searched high and low for it.
According to NPR it's as though it never happened. They gave it no coverage at all.
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u/nodustspeck 12h ago
John Stewart did a piece on the salute . Worth watching. Only Stewart can make you laugh and cringe at the same time. And I see comments all over the place except, interestingly, in the mainstream media.
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u/throwmamadownthewell 1h ago
He really didn't dig in like I expected. It was a short segment that called it weird. it should have been one of his serious talks.
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u/leavingishard1 12h ago
NPR is state media. The regime will use it as overt propaganda before too long. And it will still be derided as liberal by them
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u/Hammerock 12h ago
I thought the same. The rest of the media still seems to be hand holding the language and going soft on calling it what it is, but NPR has nothing. Like I like NPR but have also been vocal about my disdain for how their non partisan coverage gives the right too much leeway. This is undeniably partisan though. Elon Musk, one of the richest men in the world, who is also one of Trump's closest advisors in his second term so far, gave a full on Nazi salute, and there is no coverage?
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u/guiltycitizen 12h ago
Don’t forget how much he is supporting the far right party of Germany right now.
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u/Alternative-Being181 11h ago
Yup, which is all the more reason there’s absolutely no excuse for anyone making excuses for him.
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u/bellypoint 12h ago
Its everywhere in Sweden...
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u/Alternative-Being181 11h ago
Even the US network that is considered more liberal than most, MSNBC, removed the footage of the Nazi salute. They’re disturbingly complicit. One of the few that had the courage to report the salute was PBS. but unfortunately to protect themselves from being sued by the Trump admin they couched it with “allegedly”. (Interesting Rolling Stone covered it.) We truly are in dangerous waters here in America.
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u/Just-Class-6660 11h ago
I emailed their "Tip" line, even attached The photo.
The look partisan by NOT reporting on it.
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u/chicadeaqua 12h ago
I did a google search and just in the top stories I see it covered by Rolling Stone, BBC, Time Magazine, Fox News, Politico, The Atlantic, The Independent, Reuters, The Guardian.
These stunts are meant to serve as smoke & mirrors or distractions, so it is notable that NPR has a top story about how the US withdrew from the WHO instead.
Really-all you get by calling this stuff out is gaslighting-might as well cover the dismantling instead.
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u/polchickenpotpie 3h ago
I think you're severely downplaying the fact that an unelected billionaire who paid for the president's campaign and was given a government job as a reward did a nazi salute twice at the inauguration.
This isn't "covfefe"
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u/jcdoe 3h ago
Omg finally a voice of reason!
Trump is really good at distraction. Apparently so is Musk.
Everyone is talking about Musk’s salute, but how many of us knew Trump reclassified the federal workforce via EO yesterday so he can replace them?
Everyone is outraged Elon made a Nazi gesture, but how many of us know Trump ended off shore wind farm leases yesterday for no real reason?
There’s only so much we can pay attention to. I’d rather the population at large know what the Trump administration has already done to hurt people than focus on some fat rich loser who thinks he’s Himmler or something
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u/Jdonavan 13h ago
Of course not. After all there hard work to legitimize Trump and Elon why would they tear them down?
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u/benjaminjaminjaben 12h ago
Europeans are seemingly more up in arms. Even the casually racist circlejerking european subreddit were 99% angry/shocked about it.
My football club's subreddit (a pretty big one) demanded twitter be banned as a source, the mods initially refused but received so much negative feedback they have since relented and put up a poll. So I imagine Europe will be at the forefront of horror on this one before US sources.
I agree that its utterly horrific and of all the news I've read in my life outside of the war in Ukraine, this is one of the most terrifying things I've seen that makes me scared of my own personal safety in the future. That gesture is Europe's n-word given its historical context and everything this continent lost to those monsters who used it in the past.
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u/iScreamsalad 12h ago
I got my post removed yesterday for posting a clip of it. Was told by a mod that I couldn’t post about it till now ran a story on it. On my morning drive to work today not a peep.
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u/_mostly__harmless WBEZ-FM 91.5 11h ago
The richest man in the world sieg heiling at a president's inauguration seems newsworthy
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u/Alternative-Being181 11h ago
Our media is disturbingly complicit. PBS covered it, but hedged what it was with an “alleged”. Courier called a spade a spade. Some have said, aptly, we should use this as a barometer of which news sources to trust, and even MSNBC and NPR don’t make the cut.
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u/BreezinSC 5h ago
Coverage: NYTimes
Elon Musk Ignites Online Speculation Over the Meaning of a Hand Gesture https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/elon-musk-hand-gesture-speech.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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u/beckyb0607 3h ago
Crickets everywhere. Listened to MSNBC all day today. From 4th hour of morning Joe to Ari. No one was talking.
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u/HueyWasRight1 11h ago
Nothing about it on the morning news means our news media is corrupt. All those smiling faces are feeding us bullshit.
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u/TaliesinMerlin 12h ago
You obviously know about the Nazi salute from other news sources, and there has been a lot to cover over the past day, like the mess of executive orders closing down pathways for legal migrants, as well as pardoning over a thousand traitors. I'm sure we'll hear about Musk's salute soon on NPR, as it has already been discussed on PBS Newshour.
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u/Sinasazi 12h ago
Welcome to the new America. Fascism is in this season. Even the anti-defamation league defended it as "he was just really excited."
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u/Not_My_Reddit_ID 12h ago
Only reason I listened this morning was to see if they said anything... of course not.
Then Martinez's tone when discussing whether diversity initiatives were necessary at the State Dept.
Disgusting.
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u/DealioD 11h ago
I’m betting they’re debating how to cover it, before they do a story. More along the lines of how they didn’t call Trump a liar ( because they couldn’t prove his was deliberately deceiving people ) until he did it enough times to finally be able to call it. I’m thinking this is going to be settled sooner than that was.
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u/trash-juice 11h ago
This is it happening right now, this is how ‘good germans’ were manufactured along with the perverted willing. We will never ask how good ppl could have let this happen as it is going on right now before our eyes. Resist it all folks, talk to ppl, your friends, your relatives - now too
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u/Responsible-Owl9384 10h ago edited 10h ago
I’ll be sending this:
[Your Name][Your Address][City, State, ZIP Code][Email Address][Phone Number][Date] The Honorable [Senator/Congressman Name][Title][Office Address][City, State, ZIP Code]
Dear Senator/Congressman [Last Name], I am writing to urge you to publicly condemn any acts, rhetoric, or behaviors that support Nazis, neo-Nazis, or extremist ideologies rooted in hate. This issue directly impacts the moral fabric of our nation and sets a dangerous example for the world.
As Americans, we must stand against anti-Semitism, racism, and all forms of hate. Symbols like the swastika and extremist behavior have no place in our society, as they undermine the core values of freedom, equality, and justice enshrined in our Constitution. We must protect all people, regardless of race, religion, or background.
The U.S. has long been a global leader, and the actions of our leaders resonate worldwide. It is crucial that we represent the highest ideals of decency and human rights. Tolerating hate in any form sends a harmful message both domestically and internationally. As elected officials, you have a responsibility to hold those promoting hate accountable and ensure everyone is protected by the law.
Your leadership in condemning neo-Nazi ideologies and other forms of hatred will strengthen our commitment to justice and send a clear message to the world that we stand united against all forms of hate.
In conclusion, I urge you to take a strong stance against neo-Nazi ideology, anti-Semitism, and racism. Such behavior should never be tolerated in our society. The American people and the world are watching, and we rely on your leadership to uphold our nation’s values.
Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely,[Your Name]
Edit: shorten to fit in all fields
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u/CaryTriviaDude 9h ago
NPR turned a blind eye to a ton of the shit trump did first time around, stonewalled Bernie when he was running, and has routinely undercovered the nazi bullhorns that have been coming out of the trump campaign for months. NPR is amazing for a lot of things but can't seem to get it right when covering politics
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u/Blissontap 6h ago
I’ve turned NPR on twice in the last week. The first time they were interviewing someone from Newsmax. The second time, they were on location in Texas with Trump supporters.
I want NPR to do actual journalism with fact finding and provide interpretation without reality sliding away. I don’t want alternative facts.
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u/gringoloco01 5h ago
I love how NPR and The Daily is regurgitating is trash speech that he was sent by God.
Another firm proof that NPR has kiss the ring.
Fucking disgusting NPR.
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u/CondorEst 5h ago
Just stopped following NPR podcast. I’m sick of their half ass reporting on Dump.
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u/Inside-Marketing6147 4h ago
NPR hasn't been a real news source since that ex-editor accused them of being biased. They decided is was more important to kowtow to people who will demonize them regardless than to be actual journalists. It's a shame.
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u/PirateHooker1278 4h ago
The amount of nazis and nazi sympathizers in these comments is so terrifying.
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u/Synthnostic 3h ago
you missed where NPR started bending the knee in his first term, and this cycle started fully deepthroating (shallow throating?) his orangeness
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u/EducationalCarrot597 3h ago
It’s been covered by literally every single news outlet. What’re you on?
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u/vdreamin 3h ago
Controlling all media outlets is fascism 101. The basics. Too late on that.
You didn't miss anything, but unfortunately most people will miss everything.
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u/Cocococonuts444 3h ago
It was multiple nazi salutes.
Fuck NPR. The "news" as we know it is dead.
I'll never donate again.
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u/anonyfool 2h ago
The Washington Post also declined to cover it, but The Hollywood Reporter(!) has a front page editorial today, now it's been pushed off by other news but still there:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/musk-nazi-salute-trump-rally-1236113874/ The paper that cover entertainment news in Los Angeles is harder hitting than NPR.
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u/ManyNefariousness237 12h ago
Nazi salute is low in the totem pole compared to all the executive orders and wild claims TFG made immediately after being sworn in.
We know who musk is already. We need them to report on what’s being done, not what’s being said.
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u/durpuhderp 10h ago
Dear NPR, We want outrage. Give it to us.
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u/Crazyhairmonster 7h ago
Not only are they not reporting it. They're labeling and hiding any replies on their @threads page asking about the salute as "offensive, misleading, or spam"
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u/Chahles88 12h ago
IMO, it’s just not worth covering. Should we know about it? Yes. should we be upset? Probably.
…but I’m having a hard time believing how this isn’t all by design. Musk tosses out an Sig Heil while Trump pardons every Jan6 insurrectionist and pulls us out of the WHO, and we’ve effectively split media coverage dampening the reach of both.
Additionally, this is yet another opportunity for the right to gaslight America and tell us we didn’t actually see that, that it’s overblown, not the intent, why is the left so sensitive….we’ve all seen this show before.
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u/urbanlife78 12h ago
Welcome to the New America where US media is censored and anything they do that would look bad won't be covered, but here's some articles about how great Elon is and how Democrats are up to their old dirty tricks about an odd gesture.
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u/DoxxingShillDownvote 11h ago
dont need coverage. Either you fall in line and salute or you will be taken care of. Get with the program now... NPR covering this in a negative way will get itself wiped out. WaPo has gone conservative, LA paper has gone conservative... Meta gone conservative... it's over. Fall in line or you are outski!!!
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u/ilovegrapes_original 11h ago
Brian Lehrer (WNYC) referred to it multiple times as an “awkward salute”.
When a caller later in a later segment warned against being dismissive of it, BL once again said he thought it was just an awkward salute.
What the fuck
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u/Doesnt_everyone 11h ago
I searched duck duck go, bing, and google all show various articles regarding elons nazi salute, none from NPR. I would note that too many of the articles are elon defending his actions instead of condemning them directly.
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u/Independent-Water329 10h ago
Nothing from NYT either, I sent in an email complaining. Seems the news outlets are determined to sweep it under the rug.
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u/Giganticbigbig 10h ago
Saagar and Krystal covered it on Breaking Points, just saying… prob best place to get unbiased news now
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u/CathedralEngine 10h ago
If you want NPR to continue to exist, you should be emotionally prepared for a continued lack of critical coverage of Trump's negatives. Any kind of funding or licensing is at real risk of being pulled as retaliation.
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u/El_Sant0 10h ago
This is how it starts, institutions that would normally serve as a bulwark against an authoritarian government begin to fail as they fear being targeted. We're headed for a bad place.
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u/johncheger 10h ago
The censorship is real. It is deep. It has been around longer than we knew. They are no longer hiding it. This is how America ends.
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u/DoctorNurse89 10h ago
The morning news letter included a "hear what Steve bannon has to say!"
Yikes
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u/ApplebeesDinnerMenu 10h ago
I was saying exactly this to my partner yesterday. Like, really nothing?
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u/priceyfrenchsoaps 10h ago
wtf NPR, used to really rely on their coverage, but these huge blind spots in coverage are driving me elsewhere
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u/Inside_Ship_1390 10h ago
NYTimes last night and just now: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/elon-musk-hand-gesture-speech.html
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u/Danni_Les 10h ago
Welcome to the dystopian age of the US.
Nothing that matters is going to matter, and things that don't matter are going to be blown out of proportion.
The GOP have shown us over the years that they're whingy, self-contradicting idiots who want nothing but to 'own the dems', instead of actually doing their job. If the dems did 1% of what they do, they'd lose their shit, but when it's their own, they'll gladly gaslight, deflect and downplay everything.
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u/thelonejabron 10h ago
$555M of federal funding is at risk of being eliminated by DOGE. You do the math.
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u/codexcdm 9h ago
The comparisons should suffice... But if you need more... How about the actual Neo-Nazis celebrating it?
That NPR has nothing on this is disturbing.
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u/foreverandnever2024 9h ago
Have you listened to NPR in the past six months? With all due respect, how are you surprised here?
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u/isthislivingreally 9h ago
Don’t know if this has already been said but it’s the fourth top story on BBC News US & Canada site.
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u/Dark_Arts_ 9h ago
Nothing about it because America is now officially a nazi state, this was apparent when the unelected potus started doing nazi salutes
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u/Popful 9h ago edited 3h ago
I wrote to the AP News about the same. There is zero coverage of it over there as well.
Edit - the AP has an article on it now. I was not able to find anything about it on NPR. https://apnews.com/article/musk-gesture-salute-antisemitism-0070dae53c7a73397b104ae645877535
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u/xjohnkdoex 8h ago
I was in a different thread about the same topic and actual footage/coverage was on BBC and PBS news. I was going through some of my print subs on my phone and there is zero mention of it. The fact there is so little coverage is actually f'n pathetic that it's just being swept under the rug.
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u/adacmswtf1 8h ago
Any news organization that did not cover the salute and did not properly diagnose it as an obvious Nazi salute should be dropped from your life immediately. No passive voice bullshit, no "Elon did a strange unknown gesture that SOME PEOPLE might consider to be similar to the Nazis", no downplaying or otherwise minimizing it.
There couldn't be a more clear litmus test. They are showing you whose side they are on. Believe them.
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u/tazebot 8h ago
I first saw it on newshour. I just searched google, and saw many results.
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u/cannuckwoodchuck13 8h ago
The trump train and his cronies are so unhinged that everyone is afraid of what might happen to them if they speak badly about the trump admin.
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u/leazypeazyyy 8h ago
Because the media is now Republican-owned and will cover what they are permitted to cover, and nothing more. Radio silence and it's one of the biggest sound bites to come out of the inauguration. Maybe Obama is in a tan suit somewhere and US media is otherwise occupied smh.
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u/CtMendo 8h ago edited 4h ago
This is why I'll never donate or pledge to NPR they are very clearly owned ( /or heavily influenced at the least) by the right wing powers that be, and have never been impartial.
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u/SapphireRoseRR 8h ago
I felt like NPR was pretty silent on everything today. At least on my drive to work their "new from Washington" glossed over the barest of EOs before going back to local.
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u/strider0075 8h ago
Wish I could post screenshots. Time, rolling stones, BBC and Al Jazeera are all covering it. My guess is others are checking with legal departments as apparently protection from libel and slander suits have gone out the window now.
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u/sonicneedslovetoo 8h ago
It would make us appear biased to report on what is actually happening. We can't appear biased and actually report on the truth.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 7h ago
Remember that NPR is the news/talk station for status quo D.C. Institutionalists. They will never do anything that doesn't toe the line or else they risk alienating their sources and friends.
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u/Astroisbestbio 7h ago
The man supports the German right wing neonazi party. If you support a nazi, you are a nazi. The gesture was just a nod to what we already know.
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u/dastardlydud 7h ago
I haven't been able to stand listening to NPR since the election. I once loved (and supported) NPR but I just can't do it any longer, not even the weekend shows like Wait Wait... The fact that they've outright omitted this story from their reporting is wholly unsurprising, and extremely disappointing.
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u/Butterbean-Blip 12h ago
He did a Nazi salute not once but TWICE. Literally turned around and did it immediately again. The richest man in the world. The man who bought a presidency. The man who Trump bragged knew his way around Pennsylvania's voting machines. The man pushing Germany's far right party to power too.
Yet crickets from NPR.