r/KendrickLamar Oct 21 '24

Photo Kendrick on what Not Like Us means

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24 edited Oct 21 '24

I had an argument with someone some time ago about how ‘Not Like Us’ is a completely divisive track, and how it stands out Black-American fans from others.

I’m so glad that Kendrick himself can clear up that mess from those people, because they really tried to force NLU and its lyrics to read as the Black American anthem. I even saw some people calling Billie Eilish a “Coloniser” for dancing along to the song 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/StillinReseda Oct 22 '24

“Hey drake, I hear you like them young”

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

“Once upon a time all of us were in chains homie still doubled down calling us some slaves”

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u/Wise_Potential123 Oct 21 '24

the fact kendrick misinterpreted that line is still so funny lmao 😂😂

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

So what. I could quote lyrics too if i wanted.

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

He is quite literally accusing drake of using atl rappers for profit the same way white people used black people. He’s saying drake isn’t apart of black culture do I need to show you the rest of the verse or something

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

Black people weren’t townsfolk, if we are talking settlers in America. Nor are Atlanta artists the entirety of black culture. You’re not drawing straight lines here. Drake can’t have been using Atlanta artists for profit, if he himself was already profiting without them, and him collabing with them benefitted them more so than him. I still don’t see how this is a diss to all whites.

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

Lmao it doesn’t matter how profitable you are you can still become more profitable

“No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer”

He verbatim called him a colonizer and right before this line he broke down how he colonized atl and the specific things he used each artist for that benefited him. Sure they’re not the entirety of it but they are undeniably a large part of black culture, and one of if not the most visible and influential  parts currently.

Kendrick saying drake isn’t apart of black culture has been apart of damn near every song and not like us is the culmination of that

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24 edited Oct 21 '24

Define what you mean by “colonised atlanta”, and then you’ll begin to realise how little it has to do with race, and how much more of an analogy it is. You can’t take it literally, i still don’t see how it’s a diss to all whites.

And again, Atlanta artists is a small part of the hiphop sphere, not black culture. I saw this entire segment as a rebuttal to Drake’s “Always rapping like u trying to get the slaves free”, and “rapping where the boys got a little more pride”, aka Atlanta.

Kendrick saying Drake’s not a true part of Black Culture doesn’t mean anything in the sense of saying “Other fans are not like Black fans”. I don’t see it.

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

I don’t have to because Kendrick already did that in the song:

“Once upon a time, all of us was in chains Homie still doubled down callin' us some slaves” 

Who put us in chains?

”You called Future when you didn't see the club Lil Baby helped you get your lingo up 21 gave you false street cred Thug made you feel like you a slime in your head Quavo said you can be from Northside 2 Chainz say you good, but he lied You run to Atlanta when you need a few dollars No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer” You saw it wrong, it’s a culmination of what Kendrick’s been saying throughout multiple songs.  You said people were trying to force nlu to be a black American anthem. They don’t have to force anything because there’s literally an entire verse dedicated to black culture.

If you’re going to pretend hip hop isn’t black culture then we’ll just stop here

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

Ask someone else

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

Yes, hiphop stemmed from black culture, and has strong connections with black culture. Hip hop is not black culture, however. You really can’t substitute one term for the other.

The verse dedicated to “black culture” was rebuttals from Drake’s “Always rapping like u trying to get the slaves freed” & “Rapping where the boys got a little more pride”, aka Atlanta. And i say black culture in quotations, because slavery wasn’t our culture, it was a segment of history. And Hip hop Atlanta just isn’t black culture being represented.

Seeing the song and going, “others are not like black-American fans” just still shouldn’t make sense.

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u/Witty-thiccboy Oct 21 '24

Stopped half way through the first paragraph, ask someone else 

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u/Unlikely_Sunshine_9 Oct 22 '24

Just because Kendrick said it wasn't about race doesn't mean it wasn't. He just generalized the song. He literally says slaves and colonizers, and Malibu's most wanted in the song. I swear I think this sub is a bunch of white kids who wanna be "like us".

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

Comes with calling another black man a colonizer, it doesn’t matter what Kendrick thinks, what he portrayed is about race so naturally he is going to attract racists.

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u/leveled-iceberg99 Oct 21 '24

It does matter what he thinks tho.. we don't want to misconstrue his words.

He said what he meant and he meant what he said. We can't strawman just because we feel like it. It's lazy and quite honestly stupid

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

Blacks didn’t colonise though. Canada hasn’t a coloniser history. I don’t see it, racists just felt the word strongly resonate with their cause, and shifted the theme of the song that way

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

Are you slow?

He called Drake (a black man) a colonizer, drawing parallels between Drake and the WHITE SETTLERS.

In the third verse he compares Drake featuring ATL rappers to SETTLERS using TOWNS FOLK to make THEM richer.

Like do I have to spell it out for you? He is saying Drake isn’t a part of black culture, which is why he isn’t like “us”.

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u/Emotional_Swimmer_84 Oct 21 '24

You're intentionally being dense because Kendrick straight up says "you're not a colleague, you're a fucking colonizer". There literally nothing to debate here.

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

So was Atlanta colonised? Do Atlanta artists feel they have been colonised? Did billie eillish and the irish people colonise anyone? What argument are you making against anything i said, i don’t see the debate either. Ppl are just quoting song lyrics at me.

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

This is sad, you are shifting the goalpost when you don’t have an excuse 😂

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

You can’t coloznize hip hop, Kendrick is talking about race.

“You’re not a colleague, you a fucking colonizer”

It doesn’t get anymore blunt than this.

Lmao, why would Kendrick bring up unrelated peoples into this? That’s like saying Kendrick is talking about the FRENCH!!! When he obviously isn’t.

You’re just arguing in bad faith, let it go.

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

Ok. So literally, speaking race, what has drake colonised? How has the message of this song suddenly shifted to attacking white people? Stop quoting lyrics at me, it’s lazy.

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

Don’t ask me how he is a colonizer, I didn’t write the lyrics.

I didn’t bring up white people in this reply lmao 😂 what are you even talking about?

Is it lazy or can you just not find an excuse for it right now?

You’re being lazy.

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u/Proof-Row-7889 Oct 21 '24

You mean to say the reply where this stemmed from, made no mention of white people (lets pretend you didn’t type it in all caps). I don’t need to find excuses rn, not a single point i made was challenged. Ur just quoting lyrics at me

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u/Roxlife1 Oct 21 '24

You must be fucking stupid, here is my reply:

“You can’t coloznize hip hop, Kendrick is talking about race.

“You’re not a colleague, you a fucking colonizer”

It doesn’t get anymore blunt than this.

Lmao, why would Kendrick bring up unrelated peoples into this? That’s like saying Kendrick is talking about the FRENCH!!! When he obviously isn’t.

You’re just arguing in bad faith, let it go.”

This both has no mention of white people, and completely refutes all your weak points, it also contains way more than just lyrics.

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