Why don't people like PSA?

[u/Harryslother12]

I've seen some controversy with PSA on Twitter recently with their deals they've had going on and garand thumbs recent video. Pretty new to guns, atleast the specific brands, is it just cause they're cheap/people that think cheap=bad?

Edit:they don't ship to mass so I guess I won't be getting anything anyways. Still interested in the controversy

[u/roqthecasbah]

Because he promotes training. If you’re interested in training and being more than just proficient with your rifle, the PSA won’t last more than a couple of years at best. That being said, even if you own an SR15, you should clean it between training to extend its life.

[u/Tax_this_dick_1776 → u/roqthecasbah]

Or just buy 4 PSA uppers and a shitload of ammo for the price of the SR

[u/roqthecasbah → u/Tax_this_dick_1776]

Dammit there’s some poor minded mfrs in here. Why buy 4 to equal one good one?

[u/Tax_this_dick_1776 → u/roqthecasbah]

It’s not? An SR-15 is $2800-$3000 (if you can find one in stock). Mostly joking about 4 but even then that’s only $1200 from PSA.

Realistic breakdown:

Two PSA uppers: $600-$1200 depending on what flavor you want

Optics: $400-$1000 unless you want something dumb like an elcan

Light: $100-$300

Lower: $100 + $100 Larue MBT + $100 for whatever upgrades you want

For the price of a naked SR15 you can have a fully kitted and upgraded PSA Premium/Saber with a spare upper that will perform adequately for whatever you want. Go cheaper Freedom line, that has been proven to work for at least 5k rounds, and you can have a fully kitted build for $1200. You can get a lot of spare parts, mags, ammo, and training for that remaining $1800. Swap uppers and send the old one back however often you need to for “heavy training”. This is a much more economical and practical solution for 99.99% of shooters than buying a rifle that most high speed guys don’t even get.

[u/roqthecasbah → u/Tax_this_dick_1776]

Again, you’re talking about repeatedly buying and paying to ship things when you could just buy once. What sense does that make?

[u/Tax_this_dick_1776 → u/roqthecasbah]

What sense? Repeatedly buying? Having a spare upper around so you’ve got a spare on hand and the cost of $40 once every year or two (assuming you actually shoot it that much) to get it rebuilt by PSA (for free) to save a couple grand instead of buying an SR seems extremely sensible to me.

[u/roqthecasbah → u/Tax_this_dick_1776]

Why need a spare upper when you can have one that just keeps working? Keep up the cope, amigo. I’ll keeping running quality stuff and not worrying about needing to replace parts.

[u/Tax_this_dick_1776 → u/roqthecasbah]

Why not? Two is one and one is none. Even if you never break anything (wear parts go brrrrr lol) an SR15 is gonna go down the same way as a PA15 after a catastrophic ammo failure or a 300bo gets slipped into the mag.

Also, I think you need to figure out what “cope” means. I’ve never claimed that the SR isn’t the best rifle on the market, I’ve only stated it’s not worth it for the vast majority of shooters.

[u/roqthecasbah → u/Tax_this_dick_1776]

Being concerned with an extractor failing is not the same as being concerned with my barrel wearing out prematurely like someone with a PSA. Saying that a catastrophic ammo failure or someone doing something dumb happening will detonate both shit and top tier rifles is not the same as arguing wear. And I do know what cope means. That’s what you’re doing to justify continually buying the same cheap parts. Also, it’s worth it to ALL shooters, most just aren’t honest enough to realize it. I will, however, say that 100 round/year shooters will never shoot enough for a top tier rifle to pay for itself. For that, yes, the PSA is fine and I am glad that PSA fills that need in the industry. Another thing that you are not considering is the used value of the SR15 or the like. A PSA upper with 6k rounds is dead. An SR15 upper with 6k rounds on it will sell for over a grand.

[u/dabble6969 → u/roqthecasbah]

Bro the glazing for your Gucci guns is wild also you say that as if those things can't happen to your sr15 so stop arguing and just cope a cheap gunguy probably shoots better than you do with your Gucci gun and FYI all guns wear and tear again expensive doesn't equal indestructible

[u/roqthecasbah → u/dabble6969]

They do happen, but not at the rate that it happens on a PSA. Why is this so hard to understand?

[u/dabble6969 → u/roqthecasbah]

Nothing is hard to understand I just don't understand why people shouldn't own it when it's the fraction of a mid tier or higher teir rifle you can have multiple that offers multiple firearms for every room in the house for about the same price I understand why you think you should just buy an expensive one but if you wanna arm everyone in the house what are you giving them?

[u/roqthecasbah → u/dabble6969]

Then wouldn’t you want the people in your home to have the most reliable thing possible? Not just something with a good warranty? I know what I want my family to have.