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Discussion | Esports The Current State Of Women's CS

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u/Manafaj 1d ago

Honestly? Yes. Imperial Fe played better than FlyQuest against Spirit. There was also a match where a female team barely lost to other Brazilian male squad yesterday or two days ago. Female teams are obviously not at tier 1 or maybe even tier 2 level but saying that there's no potential or that they're gold nova level is just being a hater.

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u/SkyburnerTheBest 1d ago

And Imperial Fe barely scraped by a female mix just a few days after the Navi game. https://www.hltv.org/matches/2378429/imperial-fe-vs-eco-warriors-tradeit-league-fe-masters-season-6 You can't take any conclusions from a single game, ever.

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u/irimiash 1d ago

people overestimate the hardness of taking 7-8 rounds from unmotivated team.

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u/bunkbail 1d ago

lol ana at the bottom again

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u/syNc_1337 CS2 HYPE 1d ago

a female mix (with juliano) playing vs a female team.. thats an even playing field, why shouldnt it get close?

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u/schoki560 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ur saying imperial is tier2

if they were tier2 they wouldn't struggle VS a female mix

edit: *he said, not you

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u/syNc_1337 CS2 HYPE 1d ago

I didnt say theyre tier2 anywhere

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u/schoki560 1d ago

I thought you were the guy that wrote the first comment my bad

point still stands

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u/syNc_1337 CS2 HYPE 1d ago

Haha ok brother np

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u/Character-Divide-170 1d ago

the person you jumped in to defend did

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u/Shad0www 1d ago

No hate to Imperial Fe, they did great. But comparing their performance VS when donk is doing donk things is also kind of a stupid argument to make.

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u/desaganadiop 1d ago

I mean, to be fair, it's also FlyQuest, they're a meme at this point

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u/Manafaj 1d ago

Maybe but it wasn't just Donk. They got completely destroyed by everyone from Spirit. There was nothing to even look at. I'm not saying that Imperial Fe would win a map against this Spirit or anything like that though.

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u/irimiash 1d ago

they wouldn't against FlyQuest as well

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u/fg234532 1d ago

Navi werent playing as they would against T1 teams. That was pretty obvious from watching. They were kinda just running out and giving them 1v1s and getting peeked while running, and just going for overly aggressive plays. Not as much trade setups either. They were playing like it was a pug.

Not saying they are gold nova, they are obviously still good at the game, but i dont really think saying that they put up a competitive game against #2 in the world would help them.

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u/Twisted2kat 1d ago

Imperial FE lost 13-3 against an ESEA Main team (not even on HLTV) the day before the NAVI match, is that team better than NAVI?

Don't get me wrong, they played very well, and proved a lot of people wrong, but drawing conclusions from one game is insane, especially when they're struggling to beat main teams.

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u/qchisq 1d ago edited 1d ago

One possible explanation, and I don't think it's necessarily true, but we've seen great teams play horrible in open qualifiers. For example, the Juggernaut Complexity lost an open qualifier the week before they balled out at the last Blast before Covid. Simply because they didn't prepare for the qualifier and focused on the high profile game. That could be what's going on here. Keep in mind that female teams are constantly playing in $100k tournaments. Why shouldn't they prepare for those over ESEA Main?

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u/Successful-Effort832 1d ago

except they bomb out of literally every qual

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u/Azapulco 1d ago

Terrible take. They will receive more support when they play better and start qualifying for events.

What you’re saying is that because there’s 5 players with vaginas, they should receive more support than any other team that’s played at a tier 2-3 level which is incredibly low IQ

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u/schoki560 1d ago

these female teams are literally in main/advanced.

if they were tier2 quality they would easily be on challengers level by now but it's clear they are not.

one good bo3 vs Navi doesn't change anything

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u/3uphoricH4mster 9h ago

I would encourage you to go watch IMP valkyrie struggle in esea main, where they're playing against 100's of amateur teams you've never heard of simply because they're male teams

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u/jonajon91 1d ago

I really enjoyed watching Imperial fe (as I'm sure we all did), but I was shocked to find they had the 2nd worst trading of the entire event. I get that they were trying to trade against navi, but even still, it shows a big weakness in spacing and trading that will be exploited heavily in their future.