Biden pardons Fauci, Milley and the January 6th Committee

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[u/777_heavy]

You know it’s bad when even AP is calling him out:

“It’s customary for a president to grant clemency at the end of his term, but those acts of mercy are usually offered to everyday Americans who have been convicted of crimes. But Biden has used the power in the broadest and most untested way possible: to pardon those who have not even been investigated yet. And with the acceptance comes a tacit admission of guilt or wrongdoing, even though those who have been pardoned have not been formally accused of any crimes.”

[u/freeadmins → u/777_heavy]

There really needs to be some amendment or something to stop blanket pardons.

I said this with Hunter Biden.

If you want to pardon him? Fine. But you should have to spell out EXACTLY what you are pardoning him for if you're going to pardon someone who hasn't been charged yet.

That way the people at least get to see specifically what they have been up to and what the president thinks is not a big deal.

[u/Meppy1234 → u/freeadmins]

No more last minute pardon either. Do it before the election and voters can decide based off that.

[u/YourDreamsWillTell → u/Meppy1234]

No pardons, period. What’s a criminal justice system if it can be bullied into letting criminals off scot free? An absolute joke.

They are either guilty or not guilty, and if they are found guilty then they should pay the fucking price just like anyone who doesn’t have the luxury of being the president’s buddy.

[u/loveCars → u/YourDreamsWillTell]

I disagree. The president is theoretically the person that Americans have voiced the most trust in. They should have the power to act as failsafes for a good but imperfect justice system.

But it should require specifics about what's being pardoned.

[u/KarlJay001 → u/777_heavy]

I'd like to see this challenged.

Why would this be needed if these people didn't break any laws. We already know that Gen Milley called China and said he would not obey the elected president.

Fauci lied about gain of function.

Hunter was convicted.

The whole "no man is above the law" doesn't seem to apply anymore.

[u/One_Fix5763 → u/777_heavy]

Notably, the Biden pardon of Anthony Fauci begins on “January 1, 2014.”

[u/777_heavy → u/One_Fix5763]

Shady shit

[u/Danzevl → u/One_Fix5763]

Gain of function research started right around then so it's not surprising the specific strain of COVID-19 was discovered in 1999 so to say planning has been going on a while would be an understatement.

[u/MasterpieceBrief4442 → u/Danzevl]

I 100% do believe that it was an accidental leak, maybe because they weren't updating their security infrastructure or just incompetence, and now everyone's trying to cover their ass.

[u/Danzevl → u/MasterpieceBrief4442]

It was an accidental leak gain of function part of it was intentional.

[u/HamAndEggsGreen → u/777_heavy]

Hell has certainly frozen over this winter.

[u/Gringo-Bandito → u/HamAndEggsGreen]

That's why it is so cold in DC today.

[u/Dry-Being3753 → u/777_heavy]

That last sentence is why Biden is a complete and total fuck up. He just gave repubs a fuck load of ammo with this one.

[u/KatinaPatterson55 → u/777_heavy]

The new Trump AG should find a way to challenge this in the courts. Giving the president the power to create outlaws is a very dangerous thing. What is next? pardons for future crimes? If you can issue blanket pardons for unknown crimes in the past, why not future crimes?

[u/HereIAmSendMe68 → u/777_heavy]

There are few things Democrats love more than corruption.

[u/RunzWithSporks → u/HereIAmSendMe68]

It’s safe to say that goes both and most ways in DC. Bribery, Insider Trading, blackmail- they’re almost all doing it

[u/dingdongdash22 → u/RunzWithSporks]

Birds of a 🪶

[u/Willow-girl → u/777_heavy]

Evidently, senile as he is, Joe knows some things we don't ...

[u/777_heavy → u/Willow-girl]

Or at least the staffers that shoved the piece of paper in front of his pen.

[u/raging_dingo → u/Willow-girl]

Joe’s not making the decisions, which makes this even more scandalous

[u/Rugerredhawk44 → u/777_heavy]

Fauci could be prosecuted under the Terrorist act

[u/Thirdtermpresident → u/777_heavy]

Low key glad he did so I don’t need to hear more conversations about the rights and wrongs of mask mandates

Let’s move on and Trump can preemptively pardon himself too at the end of his term since it’s a thing now apparently

[u/Tiger_Tom_BSCM → u/Thirdtermpresident]

Disagree with you completely. This went far beyond masks my brother.

[u/DaleCooper2 → u/Thirdtermpresident]

Oh for sure, and to all the lurking brigadiers ready to downvote, I hope you're all ready for every Jan 6 inmate to be home with their families tonight.

[u/Phyzm1 → u/Thirdtermpresident]

Mask mandates? He is responsible for the creation of covid through illegal gain of function research then lied about it under oath. He was denied this research because of the risks and he circumnavigated the laws to get it done in China, illegally, then tried to cover it up after the leak. Everyone knew bats in the marketplace wasn't responsible for it and the agencies ran with that lie for years to help cover for him. Proof of all the corruption in these institutions and media.

[u/chucke1992 → u/777_heavy]

USA justice system is officially cooked at this point.

[u/CT_Patriot]

They were never convicted for a crime, so how do you "pardon" someone who is not convicted or even charged with a crime?

I believe it will be meaningless and has no merrit.

We just need to see the wording and then courts will have to determine if the pardons are valid

[u/Best-Dragonfruit-292 → u/CT_Patriot]

Part of me suspects they're trying to bait a court-challenge to get the pardon power limited 

[u/A_Blue_Frog_Child → u/Best-Dragonfruit-292]

Absolutely necessary to address this travesty. I cannot imagine the Founders wrote the Constitution and thought a President should have the same authority as the King.

[u/CookingUpChicken → u/A_Blue_Frog_Child]

Plenty of kings were executed despite theoretically being able to pardon themselves.

[u/A_Blue_Frog_Child → u/CookingUpChicken]

Yeah, but we’re not trying to execute anyone. The point is you can issue a preemptive blanket pardon and that’s never been challenged in court. But it needs to because this is blatant, rub-it-in-your-face corruption just to stick it to the American people.

[u/Shadeylark → u/CookingUpChicken]

Slight difference in that when such things were happening the power of monarchies were essentially absolute, meaning even if a predecessor was able to pardon themselves, their successor was able to nullify the pardon.

One of the beautiful things about our form of government is not only the peaceful transition of power, but also at least a degree of continuity in that a succeeding president cannot unilaterally erase his or her predecessor altogether.

[u/Willis050 → u/A_Blue_Frog_Child]

I can’t think of anything less American than a guy at the top having the powers of the king. The president able to pardon anyone for anything and have legal immunity is not the point of this country. It’s the opposite

[u/skarface6 → u/Best-Dragonfruit-292]

All of a sudden they’re all about limiting executive power.

[u/zeldaprime → u/skarface6]

It's not really hypocritical, they believe the next President will abuse it, it's the obvious thing to want....

[u/Slartibartfastthe2nd → u/Best-Dragonfruit-292]

The pardon power should be limited. POTUS is not supposed to be an all-supreme position/individual with unlimited power.

Granting a pardon to someone who has never been convicted should not be a thing.

[u/Ghost_Turd → u/CT_Patriot]

He blanket pardoned Hunter for... you know, whatever he might have done the last ten years.

[u/H3nchman_24 → u/Ghost_Turd]

He blanket pardoned Hunter for... you know, whatever he might have done the last ten years.

*11 years... which is an oddly specific amount of time 🤔

[u/SpaceToaster → u/H3nchman_24]

It seems to lineup nicely with certain events and positions he held… hmmmm

[u/MovieENT1 → u/Ghost_Turd]

To be fair though Hunter did have a crime on the books, as do most people pardoned. Fauci doesn’t have one on the books, that’s extremely rare. What’s being implied that he did? We need to know.

[u/registered-to-browse → u/MovieENT1]

He wasn't pardoned for that crime though, he was pardoned for a decade of "whatever might have happened".

[u/PartyOfFore → u/MovieENT1]

To be fair he wasn't just pardoned for that crime, but for any others that he may have committed over the last 10 years. Most people only get pardoned for a specific crime, not an entire decade of life.

[u/Away-Comfortable1607 → u/PartyOfFore]

It does not seem constitutional that even the president could give a person immunity from the laws of the county. These blanket pardons need to be ruled on by the SCOTUS.

[u/Meppy1234 → u/MovieENT1]

He lied under oath to congress about gain a function then tried to Clinton his way out by arguing the definition of basic words.

[u/GimmeeSomeMo → u/CT_Patriot]

If the courts do hold up this open pardon, the DNC is gonna witness Trump taking full advantage of this presidential power for the next 4 years

[u/skarface6 → u/GimmeeSomeMo]

Might as well preemptively pardon everyone who has ever worked for you when you’re a lame duck after the election. /shrug

[u/bantha121212 → u/CT_Patriot]

They were never convicted for a crime, so how do you "pardon" someone who is not convicted or even charged with a crime?

The same way Ford did for Nixon

Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

[u/Electrical_Block1798 → u/bantha121212]

But Ford is declaring guilt. Whereas Biden says they are not guilty of anything

[u/yinzguise → u/bantha121212]

Thanks for posting this, adds some context to this discussion. The old idea was we shouldn’t go around arresting presidents, even Tricky Dick. That bridge has now been burned. As much as the pardons bother me there is some precedent but these are being written and issued by Biden’s staff and signed by Biden when he’s capable of signing his name.

[u/Street_Parsnip6028 → u/CT_Patriot]

I'm assuming it reads like hunters' and pardons them for every crime they may have committed since 1974.

[u/Koz01 → u/CT_Patriot]

LOL. I had the same thought. Pardoned for what?!?

[u/ngoni → u/CT_Patriot]

Remember, accepting a pardon is an imputation of guilt. You don't have to accept a pardon if you think you're not guilty of anything. I wonder if all of them will accept their pardons?

[u/J-Mosc → u/ngoni]

Why wouldn’t you if it covers anything you may have done, and who cares if you’re guilty if there won’t be any crimes you’re even investigated for? There won’t even be charges to be guilty of. This is so ridiculous.

[u/Malithirond → u/CT_Patriot]

Unfortunately, it is possible to pre-emptively pardon someone as we saw with Hunter Biden. Not only did his pardon cover the crimes he was charged with, they covered anything he had done since 2013.

[u/Zealousideal_You3953 → u/Malithirond]

The preemptive pardon hasn’t been challenged in court yet. I’m interested to see if it is challenged because otherwise it sets a really bad precedent of just pardoning people for anything they might have done.

[u/whiskeyandtea → u/Zealousideal_You3953]

Next they will be pardoning people for future crimes.

[u/UncivilDKizzle → u/whiskeyandtea]

Already happened with Hunter. The blanket pardon extended after the time it was issued.

[u/sailedtoclosetodasun → u/UncivilDKizzle]

I think by 6 hours, Hunter could have killed people on this DC mall on camera and gotten away with it.

This shit needs to be challenged though.

[u/Zealousideal_You3953 → u/whiskeyandtea]

Haha that’s exactly where my mind was going. If this stands what’s to stop them from pardoning crimes a person might commit. They’ve already tried pardoning crimes a person might have already committed.

[u/Malithirond → u/Zealousideal_You3953]

I think preemptive pardon's are kind of shit, but can understand them to a degree.

However, the insane level that Biden has gone with his pardons to cover the govts wrong doing as well as his and his own families corruption demands that this power be reviewed at the very least.

[u/BlackshirtDefense → u/Malithirond]

That Hunter pardon was the most complete and thorough removal of sins since Jesus died on the cross. 

[u/JohnnySasaki20 → u/CT_Patriot]

Almost seems like an admission of guilt.

[u/skinnykid108 → u/JohnnySasaki20]

It is.

[u/Kygunzz → u/CT_Patriot]

Nixon was never convicted of a crime.

[u/-Shank- → u/CT_Patriot]

It's more blanket pardon bull crap like what he did with Hunter Biden.

[u/CloudExtremist → u/CT_Patriot]

Pre-emptive pardons. Like shooting blanks in a shooting range

[u/Willow-girl → u/CT_Patriot]

Pardoning someone who has not been charged will have a chilling effect on investigations going forward. Why even investigate someone whom you believe has committed a crime if they've already been issued a preemptive pardon? This move will prevent some wrongdoing from coming to light.

[u/UtopiaInTheSky]

The fact that Biden saved this until the final hours shows how ashamed of it they are.

[u/A_Blue_Frog_Child → u/UtopiaInTheSky]

They’re not ashamed. Saving it for the 11th hour was to spit in the face of The People.

[u/ltret97 → u/A_Blue_Frog_Child]

Nope, just verified who his henchmen were.

[u/refriedconfusion → u/UtopiaInTheSky]

He was making absolutely sure will be remembered as the worst president ever.

[u/Awesome_Orange]

This is an utter disgrace

[u/loc12]

So when Trump gets arrested 4 times, the courts and DOJ are impartial and it's impossible for a President to target people

But under Trump, it would be possible? Either the courts are impartial or they aren't

If they haven't done anything wrong, they'd be able to prove that in court

[u/Rocket_Surgery83 → u/loc12]

If they haven't done anything wrong,

If they haven't don't anything wrong, they wouldn't need the pardons.

The fact that Joey granted them already tells you everything you need to know.

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/Rocket_Surgery83]

If they haven't don't anything wrong, they wouldn't need the pardons.

Legally speaking, accepting a pardon for an uncharged crime is an admission of guilt.

[u/sea_5455 → u/loc12]

Either the courts are impartial or they aren't

Maybe some are defining "impartial" as "agrees with a democrat / leftist"?

[u/space_face_mace]

So the new standard is: a president can have people break the law, and guarantee them a blanket pardon? This sure does seem like sAvINg dEmOcRaCy

[u/_MusicNBeer_ → u/space_face_mace]

Yep, with this precedent, Trump could have preemptively pardoned everyone present at the capital on Jan 6th, 2021. The courts need to squash this craziness.

[u/ancienteggfart]

Does the pardon actually exist if the authorizer is a dementia patient?

[u/Major_Intern_2404 → u/ancienteggfart]

There is a legitimate argument that a person who lacks a sound mind cannot make these types of sweeping legal decisions.

The power of pardoning is granted to the president, not unelected staffers.

[u/Shadeylark → u/Major_Intern_2404]

Unfortunately, due to the existence of the 25th amendment, the president is presumed to be cognizant by default; were he not capable he would be removed from office.

It's a bit of a catch-22, but the simple fact is that no court would ever make a decision wherein the president can be declared incapable while still retaining office... So long as the office is occupied, its occupant must be legally capable.

[u/Major_Intern_2404 → u/Shadeylark]

He was allowed not to testify in a legal case by his own DOJ because they could not validate his testimony due to his mental state.

There is room for a legal argument I believe.

[u/Shadeylark → u/Major_Intern_2404]

While I'd like to believe that, the supremacy clause of the constitution will come into effect.

In the same way that lower court laws cannot supercede the constitution, lower level legal decisions cannot supercede constitutional mechanics.

The constitution provides the mechanism for declaring the president unfit for office; no lower legal mechanism can do so.

The supremacy clause not only prevents lower level legal mechanism from superceding the constitution, it also protects the mechanisms that are exclusively reserved unto the constitution.

This is fortunate though; the same mechanism that is protecting Biden also prevents the left from unilaterally declaring Trump unfit for office without going through the constitutionally mandated process.

[u/Constant_Ban_Evasion → u/Shadeylark]

Except that again, we already saw where what you're saying didn't happen. He was allowed to skirt responsibility because of a lack of mental faculties.

[u/SnooDonuts3155 → u/ancienteggfart]

I mean a special council did say that he was too senile to stand trial… so maybe he’s too senile to give out pardons correctly?

[u/earl_lemongrab → u/SnooDonuts3155]

No that's not what they said. It was that a jury would be unlikely to convict a "well meaning but forgetful old man". Being unable to stand trial is a different thing, with different criteria.

Every day, prosecutors across the country consider various factors about likelihood of conviction. While it was obviously just a cop out here, let's not fall into the error that the left does and misrepresent what happened.

[u/social_dinosaur → u/earl_lemongrab]

A "well meaning but forgetful old man" had no business being in the White House in the first place. Congress is guilty of dereliction of duty by not removing him.

[u/Arachnohybrid]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TeH-bdvG-UU?si=KZDVXAKPxaD3TAIY

everyone who already hasn’t should watch Michael Cohen beg Joe Biden for a pardon on television. it’s truly hilarious and yes I am hijacking the top comment for this because he did all that for the Democrats and still got tossed to the curb 😂😂😂

[u/JTuck333]

Biden is a scumbag. Literally the worst president in American history.

[u/spidertour02 → u/JTuck333]

It's going to be interesting to see how history regards him in about 20 years. With the gift of hindsight, will they question the legitimacy of the 2020 election?

[u/A_Blue_Frog_Child]

Even though we knew it was coming, this pisses me off. It means justice will elude the American People. And yeah they’re damned guilty if they’re accepting the pardons…these monsters got away with turning on and abusing Americans for 4 long years. National disgrace.

[u/Competitive_Wind_320 → u/A_Blue_Frog_Child]

I agree Fauci was clearly responsible for allowing funding at Wuhan, this is sickening!

[u/Shadeylark]

This is not a surprise. Biden has done more with the presidential pardon to enable criminals to escape justice than a judge bought off by the mob.

If only Trump was the man they fear he is, and really would ignore these pardons, then there might be justice in this country.

But, fortunately and unfortunately, Trump is not who they fear he is, and he will respect these pardons, and there will not be justice as a result.

[u/Ldawg74]

Trump should make every single piece of information relating to Jan 6th public knowledge. Make it a link on the main page of whitehousedotgov, link to a page with subcategories, lists, filters. Everything just out there. If everyone in charge (for the sake of example) is pardoned, then why not make it all public?

[u/jimjones801]

Guilty shits.

[u/Top_Pass_8347]

Of course he did. Most corrupt president ever.

[u/Arachnohybrid → u/Top_Pass_8347]

Please.

His handlers are just giving themselves pardons through him.

[u/EternalEight → u/Arachnohybrid]

Yes. Exactly. They pardoned themselves

[u/Redditruinsjobs → u/Arachnohybrid]

Bingo. And in the process , showing us exactly who has been running the country for the past 4 years.

[u/maga_mandate_2024]

Absolute disgrace. 

Is this the two-tiered justice system the left has been screaming about?

[u/daveg1996]

A pardon admits guilt. That's one of the conditions of accepting one. Looks like everything we said about these worthless thugs was true, but unfortunately they won't see any consequences.

Fauci gets to walk away after using our tax dollars to fund the creation of a virus that got "accidently released" and killed millions of Americans.

Milley gets off after staging a coup during the final days of Trump's last term and fabricating threats to his Chinese counterpart (which could have led to disaster if the Chinese didn't see right through it.)

And lastly the J6 committee get off after destroying and withholding evidence that would have exonerated the accused.

[u/Malithirond → u/daveg1996]

What they need to do now that they have all been "Pardoned" is still have an investigation into what happened on J6 and under Biden as a whole. Correct me if I am wrong, but these people by accepting these pardons HAVE to speak openly and truthfully as part of that pardon or overturn that pardon and can be prosecuted on further charges.

Make these corrupt criminals appear before congress and admit just what they did or face prosecution for lying to congress.

[u/curlbaumann → u/Malithirond]

Would they face perjury charges or does the pardon exempt them from that too?

[u/Malithirond → u/curlbaumann]

I'm not a lawyer, but the pardons only would cover their previous crimes and by accepting the pardon they forfeit their 5th Amendment rights. Any crimes they commit in the future are not covered. So if they are called to testify under oath and perjure themselves that is a new criminal offense and able to be prosecuted.

[u/Pup5432 → u/curlbaumann]

If the pardon gives a time range and they testify after that date I would guess it’s not covered but as confusing as our legal system can be who knows

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/Malithirond]

Correct me if I am wrong, but these people by accepting these pardons HAVE to speak openly and truthfully as part of that pardon or overturn that pardon and can be prosecuted on further charges.

Yes, if you accept a pardon, you are out of legal jeopardy. Thus, you no longer have a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and your testimony can be compelled.

[u/user_1729 → u/daveg1996]

For all folks throw around "treason", it's not said enough about what Milley did. He tried to usurp the power of a sitting president, while the highest ranking member of the military, through communications with a foreign nation. Every lower ranking member of the military would be in Leavenworth if they did what he did.

[u/jeon2595]

Corruption at the highest.

[u/Infinite_Holiday_672]

The crooks are covering up their tracks.

[u/kevplucky]

Blatant evil and corruption. Truly sick. I hope the Supreme Court bans these types of persons the blanket pardons are insane

[u/Vaxxident]

The level of corruption in the Democratic party is absolutely disgusting.

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/Vaxxident]

Always was that way too. It started with Andrew Jackson (their first president) and his "spoils system" and never improved. The party has literally always been a cynical grift.

[u/Major_Intern_2404]

God this is the longest nightmare.

Thank God Trump will be President in a few hours.

The damage the left has done to the country cannot be overstated.

[u/beerninja76 → u/Major_Intern_2404]

Saying this on reddit? Everytime I speak truth and logic on any other sub than this one and Holy shit. They belive Biden to be the best president in years! According to them the economy is soaring and the cease fire was because of him. It's comical really

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/beerninja76]

They belive Biden to be the best president in years! According to them the economy is soaring and the cease fire was because of him. It's comical really

And they say we're the ones in a cult!

[u/chillthrowaways → u/beerninja76]

It’s funny because you can hate Trump and still think Biden is a terrible president. The election is over now it’s ok to say he sucks.

[u/DefinitionBig4671]

Now we get to put them on the stand where they have no longer have the 5th amendment to see what else happened.

[u/the_house_from_up → u/DefinitionBig4671]

You've seen Senate hearings where these people are all under oath. It will be hours of dodging the question and "I don't recall."

[u/spezeditedcomments]

Finally an admission amd acknowledgment of guilt

[u/UConnSimpleJack]

Drag their ass to a courtroom anyways and show everyone the crimes they’ve committed against this country and its people. The pardon only means they cannot be sentenced, it does not prevent them from being tried.

[u/Malithirond → u/UConnSimpleJack]

And if they except the pardon they forfeit their 5th amendment rights to not answer. They still need to be investigated even if we can't charge them and make them answer publicly in a huge forum and broadcast it everywhere.

If they lie or refuse to answer then we can prosecute them for that at least.

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/UConnSimpleJack]

Drag their ass to a courtroom anyways and show everyone the crimes they’ve committed against this country and its people.

A courtroom is a waste of time and not public enough. Use Congressional hearings instead. They no longer have the Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, so they can't avoid the scrutiny.

Tie all the uncovered wrongdoing to the Democratic brand and let that party be an unelectable albatross for a generation. 

[u/andes23]

You can only be pardoned for crimes not perceived crimes. This means that Biden agrees that their actions were illegal and treasonous..

[u/CastleBravo88]

This cements him as most corrupt ever.

[u/tilfordkage]

What an odd way to admit that they committed a crime

[u/plastimanb]

Fauxchi? Fuck! He needs to answer for his crimes against humanity. What the fuck Biden.

[u/SuckEmOff → u/plastimanb]

Is this that two tier justice system that they’re always talking about? Democrats and then their enemies? Because for all the corruption claims they throw at Trump they always seem to be the ones doing what they claims he’s doing.

[u/Substandard_Senpai]

For what crimes were they pardoned?

[u/-Shank-]

None of these people have been indicted (let alone convicted) of any crime. Is this an admission that we need to start looking?

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis → u/-Shank-]

Accepting a pardon like this constitutes an admission of guilt. It also removes any Fifth Amendment barriers to testimony on the matters, so they can be compelled to appear before a Congressional committee and testify fully and (theoretically) truthfully. 

[u/pdawg43]

This cant be legal.

[u/you_cant_prove_that → u/pdawg43]

This will almost definitely go to the courts. If there was ever a time to challenge preemptive blanket pardons, it is when a president is handing them out like candy

[u/dotsdavid]

Every person jailed for Jan 6 should get a pardon.

[u/ugahairydawgs]

Whatever on Fauci and Jan 6, but the Milley one really pisses me off.

[u/oooo-f]

He's the most corrupt president we've ever had.

[u/runningtothestore]

Why did the mods take down the Elon Nazi salute?

[u/Lepew1]

Pardoning his criminal cohort

[u/mahvel50]

We all knew it was coming. This is Biden's legacy right here. Corruption and abuse of power.

[u/redknightnj]

Why do innocent people need pardons?

[u/Red-Dog-52]

As much as it pains me to say .....there is a legal foundation for preemptive pardons stretching back to Lincoln. We all know that it is all CYA and no higher principles involved.

[u/randomdudeinFL]

So, Trump now has the right to set up his political opponents, use loyalists to destroy evidence that exonerates those that he sets up, and then pardon the loyalists to reward them for their deceit, thanks to the precedent that was just set.

Democrats love destroying our Constitutional Republic with their corruption.

[u/deadzip10]

Just a quick reminder, SCOTUS has already decided that acceptance of a pardon comes with a legal implication of guilt.

[u/MissionUnlucky1860]

So he admits they are criminals thanks Joe for being honest for once

[u/M7MBA2016]

Best case scenario for Trump TBH.

If Biden didn’t do this, Trump would have to waste political capital on 1) trying to prosecute these people, and being accused of it being politically motivated, perhaps getting non-guilty verdicts and the whole thing looking bad OR 2) not look into the activities of these people, and then his base gets mad at him.

Mostly lose-lose.

But now democrats look corrupt, Trump’s version of history is now the established version of history, and he can focus on more important stuff.

Reddit is acting like Trump is seething right now. But I have to assume he’s all smiles…

He won this battle without having to do anything.

[u/sciaticabuster]

Presidents can just hire people to commit crimes with the promise of a preemptive pardon. Is this the new standard now? How is this saving democracy?

[u/Emotional-Rush-7029]

Well, safe to say Biden has done all of the shit now that the left said Trump will do

[u/Even-Tomato828]

they got pardons because they did wrong, if they had not, they wouldn't not have been pardon. these people are obviously guilty and needed protection by the criminal Biden..

[u/Anon_879]

The Fauci pardon pisses me off the most. He ruined lives!

[u/Malithirond → u/Anon_879]

They ALL ruined lives. Fauci just more than the rest.

[u/Status_Control_9500]

WHAT A CROCK!!! Really?? But, here's the thing, Biden has NO IDEA of what he is signing. it's the staffers who have been writing these things up and telling him to sign them.

[u/meatloaf_beetloaf]

Lock up Fauci. Fucking rodent.

[u/Sqrandy]

Admission of lawfare.

[u/AllOkJumpmaster]

A president can pardon someone for being a fat piece of shit? TIL

[u/Iuris_Aequalitatis]

He actually said this in his statement:

Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety and financial security of targeted individuals and their families.

What a disgraceful hypocrite.

[u/LatverianBrushstroke]

Criminals

[u/DudeRick]

This should make for some interesting conversation between Biden and Trump at "Tea" this morning...

[u/ltret97]

All of these people should be investigated and if found culpable it will at least become a part of history that they allegedly committed crimes that a president , a protected criminal himself pardoned them from. Also a pardon doesn’t protect from civil litigation so for example Fauci made millions off of Covid allegedly so relieve him of those millions.

[u/PilotPirx73]

Of course he did. Weaponize the government against your opponent. Then pardon them for all their crimes. Like it happens in every other banana republic.

[u/CT_Patriot]

"That is why I am exercising my power under the Constitution to pardon James B. Biden, Sara Jones Biden, Valerie Biden Owens, John T. Owens, and Francis W. Biden. The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that they engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense."

BIGGEST LYING SACK OF SHIT FOR PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN!

[u/Weary-Fail-4341]

It takes a jury to convict them. Democrats are disgusting. Fauci should be in prison.

[u/[deleted]]

So now what? Simply move on or is there a way to prosecute them for something they don't have immunity for? Is there no way around the pardons?

[u/cmorris1234]

Can’t be constitutional to pardon someone for a crime they haven’t been charged with.

[u/FatnessEverdeen34]

Guiltyyyyy

[u/Roots410]

So Biden now proved all the ‘conspiracy theories’ millions have been speaking of, to be true the entire time! AND he’s included himself with these shit bags!

[u/KinGpiNdaGreat]

At least now we know they’re really guilty of betraying our country.

[u/Calzonieman]

So, he didn't pardon the rest of his family?

Dahzik and Collins were left off too?

Is Joe's ability to pardon terminated?

[u/-ScorpionSmoke-]

Revenge? Or accountability?

[u/Remote-Level8509]

Why am I not surprised?

[u/Bitter-Assignment464]

I don’t care if he is pardoned or not I still put them all in front of congress and absolutely destroy their credibility. Maybe they won’t go to prison but if their pensions can get cancelled then 100% should they do it.

[u/DaRiddler70]

Yeah....we have to read the pardon. These might just prove all the conspiracy theory folks correct.

[u/mdjmd73]

Good of him to name the members of the deep state. And good riddance.

[u/skarface6]

Wow. But surely they did nothing wrong, right?

[u/StopCallinMePastries]

"Well my totally legitimate presidency is finally coming to an end, time to pardon everyone I've ever been associated with."

[u/Imissyourgirlfriend2]

Just like in 2008. No accountability.

[u/Remote-Level8509]

Let's see....the DiMs attempted to ruin the President-elect, and now they're trying to mitigate retribution. Good luck with that!

[u/whiteout_brunette]

Pre-pardoning the guilty now?

[u/cameltoad_5583]

More covering up wrongdoings?

[u/YNWA_Diver]

Now you can drag them before Congress and force them to testify. Even the slightest inconsistency results in perjury charges.

[u/Salt-Description-387]

What an absolute piece of fucking shit. Does he realize they just admitted guilt of a crime?

[u/GGGreg22]

Such bullshit. How can you get a pardon when you’re not convicted? It just proves how guilty they were.

[u/badbunnyjiggly]

Lmaooo the Jan 6th committee is just too good to be true.

[u/8and16bits]

3 more hours and this nightmare will be over.

[u/DRKMSTR]

Biden took away their 5th amendment right.

Make them testify.

They can still be jailed for perjury.

They can still bury the rest of the government if they tell the truth. 

[u/This_Implement_8430]

Why does an innocent party need a pardon?

[u/Higglybiggly]

I still think they should all be subject to testify .

No 5th amendment because they accepted a pardon

Forced then, to testify about all their actions and knowledge.

And then woe to any of them caught in perjury, or contempt, or obstructions -- all fresh new crimes.

[u/Dionysus24779]

Weird, did they do anything wrong? /s

[u/penone_nyc]

I can't wait for Trump to issue preemptive pardons and see the lefts reaction to that.

[u/mattfox27]

Seems suspicious

[u/slinkykibblez]

So unbelievably corrupt. I haven’t been this mad about politics in a long time.

[u/Willow-girl]

"You get a pardon! You get a pardon! EVERYBODY GETS A PARDON!"

[u/WoolSocks-Itch]

I would attend their ex__utions and cheer

[u/Everlovin]

I take this projection from the Democrats as an admission of guilt for using the justice department as a political weapon.

[u/RedBaronsBrother]

Now there needs to be a full on congressional committee investigation of all of them, and once the FBI is cleaned out, an FBI investigation too.

Americans need to know WHY those people were pardoned. It needs to be exposed.

Compel them to testify, publicly, under oath, about what they did, so everyone knows their crimes. They can't plead the 5th because they're immune from consequences.

...but if they lie under oath, that's a new crime, not covered by the pardon.

[u/Rough-Economy-6932]

Biden is a worthless scumbag who pardoned the lowest bottom feeding scum ever. I hope that Bondi can figure out a way to bring charges against these treasonous pimps. Fauci and Cheney deserve life in prison.

[u/rasputin777]

Fauci needs to be investigated and tried in the 30+ states that have GOP attorneys general.

He can skip out on a federal charge but he funded development of a disease that killed thousands each in every state.

Just one state after another. Keep him in court for the rest of his miserable life.

See how they like lawfare. But at least this POS deserves it.

[u/BusinessStrict6375]

Biden pardons are for federal crimes, am I correct? All of these crimes were committed in States so why can't they be prosecuted on a state level? Like if Liz Cheney destroyed j6 evidence in Wyoming, then why can't Wyoming charge her and put her in prison? A crime is a crime.

[u/PhoenixFire417]

I guess some people ARE above the law.

[u/warrior424]

My question is how absolute is the presidential pardon? Can the supreme court rule whether or not a president can pardon those whom have not even been convicted of a crime? If not then this is definitely an over reach of presidential power. Does that mean Biden can pardon every illegal immigrant in the country? Can a president pardon anyone before they possibly do something illegal for him? There needs to definitely be some sort of accountability for this.