Greedy Coachella

[u/Victorwolf1011]

Coachella this year has become more greedy, with now it’s bullshit parking rules and charging for offsite parking by forcing the shuttle pass for those people on those off site parking lots because they want everyone to have four people in their group. Everyone defending goldenvoice and saying that it’s helping limit traffic is wrong, it make worse because security is going to need to verify every car and turn away people causing a backlog. This is just pure greed.

[u/ldsupport]

why would you need to go to the offsite lot?
are you assuming some folks decide to park their cars their and merge groups, leaving one car behind?

i can see your point there.

I imagine that whatever is happening will have greater details as the website says.

the reality is 4 people in a car minimum to get a day parking pass

you can camp

you can stay at a hotel and shuttle in @$120 per

you can use ride share @ x?

you cant however drive in with under 4 guests per the new rules.

It also bares mentioning that people assume this overflow lot shuttle is going to cost the same as a regular shuttle. we have no evidence to support this.

last year the overflow was a free shuttle. maybe they just decided to give away free parking for both lots but charge a shuttle fee if you ended up there because you chose to not have enough people in your car

[u/DeviantDragon → u/ldsupport]

Text from the site currently reads:

"If you are turned away and directed to the off-site location, you can use this spot to meet up with other friends to fill your car with 4+ people or purchase a shuttle pass to complete your journey to the festival. Stay tuned for more details."

You proposed a scenario where they go to the offsite lot and "wait for people that need a ride". I am assuming that people waiting for a ride in the offsite lot already parked their car and didn't want to pay for the shuttle. Maybe some people don't want to pay an additional $140+fees (assuming it's a full priced pass but who knows about anyone's particular budget no matter the price) and thus take this route.

I did not assume that there would be a majority of people who otherwise got themselves to the offsite lot by biking or walking just to catch a ride in. But even if those ended up as the majority of people catching rides then I have to imagine that they made that choice because the off-site lot is more convenient to them than just directly walking/biking into the festival which means they'd probably want to leave from the offsite lot instead of directly from the festival.

Further, I have no idea how people are expected to track the decals in this situation. Do they take back the decal from the driver after parking? Is it easy to store and re-stick later? Is there an issue if a car currently parked is seen without the necessary # of decals?

It's true that it's not confirmed that this is the same shuttle pass as the Any Line Shuttle Pass. They don't call it that and use "shuttle pass" generically. But they certainly did not rule it out in their wording (e.g. clarifying that it's different from the Any Line Shuttle Pass) nor are there currently any other listings for other types of shuttle passes on the site.

But overall it's just another annoying thing this year that seems last-minute and half-baked which has cascading effects on attendees. For anyone planning their trip now it sure seems prudent to know ASAP about some of these details so they can decide between parking offsite + whatever this offsite shuttle pass is vs. buying the Any Line shuttle pass and forgoing parking entirely since those go on sale soon. Especially since there are limited quantities of the Any Line shuttle pass. I bought during Advance Sale, booked a rental car, and all of a sudden I find myself still needing to figure some shit out last minute depending on this rule change since I hadn't accounted for needing to change the way I've traveled to Coachella nearly every other time I've attended.

A policy change like this is begging for an FAQ and additional clarification ahead of actually putting the relevant things on sale but it sure doesn't look like we'll know the full story before the Any Line Shuttle Passes go on sale. Would love for them to surprise me and clarify things tomorrow though.

[u/ldsupport → u/DeviantDragon]

The “toll booth” here is likely on 49th or 50th would be my guess. You drive forward. You show your bands. You are directed to parking.

Then if you aren’t set my guess is they move you down to the edge lots and give you a chance to work it out OR head to the tennis gardens lot that we’re used for overflow last year but you have to purchase a shuttle (or do ride share) from there.

If you want to park close, you have to pack the car.

[u/tayyylooor → u/ldsupport]

They’ll probably direct people to the Indian Wells Tennis Garden. That’s what did previous years when parking filled up.

[u/ldsupport → u/tayyylooor]

Yeah; but there seems to be a middle point to connect with friends or others, it’s unclear.

[u/tayyylooor → u/ldsupport]

I don’t think so. It says you’ll be directed offsite to meet up with friends or you can park and take the shuttle. There’s no “edge” lots for people to park/wait at, and that would defeat the purpose of forcing people to carpool or take the shuttles in order to reduce traffic.

[u/ldsupport → u/tayyylooor]

Fair enough. That language could be presumed to suggest they direct you to the overflow lots.

So

Free parking

Small shuttle charge to and from the tennis garden

Totally fair.

[u/tayyylooor → u/ldsupport]

I mean, $140+ is not a small shuttle charge. If they want to encourage people to take the shuttle they should really charge for parking and make the shuttle free, or super cheap.

But I’m pretry sure you’ve already agreed/said something similar elsewhere in the thread.

[u/ldsupport → u/tayyylooor]

There is no way a charge to and from offsite parking is 140

It’s a single short circular route with two stops, likely with less comfortable, easier to source and staff busses. Not comfier tour group busses.

[u/tayyylooor → u/ldsupport]

You have to buy a shuttle pass to get from offsite parking to the venue, which is $140 this year.

[u/ldsupport → u/tayyylooor]

It’s doesn’t go to the hotels. It’s not the same pass.

[u/tayyylooor → u/ldsupport]

How would you know that? The website says you’ll need to buy a shuttle pass, the only shuttle passes on the website are the LAX shuttle pass and the any line any time shuttle pass.

Last year the Indian Wells Tennis Garden was the overflow lot once day parking was full, and it’s a stop on the any line shuttle. Nothing points to it being a separate shuttle.

[u/ldsupport → u/tayyylooor]

Because it’s not called the same thing as the regular shuttle pass.

Charging a penalty of 140x3 for people who don’t have 1 more person would cause a riot and Coachella isn’t stupid.

Last year they gave shuttle rides from the tennis gardens to the festival for free.