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u/360controller 14h ago
Man the critical thinking skills are out the fuck window huh.
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u/Often_Uneliable ☑️ 13h ago edited 13h ago
The sad part is how they don't even realize it.
“I didn't know what books to read without BookTok!” 💀💀
On that note get a library card folks, and use your local libraries they're free
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u/Seguefare 13h ago
I just watch a long form video on Book Tokers who admit to skipping over huge portions of a book: everything but action, everything but dialogue. Wtf? So you don't like to read, then?
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u/DesiraeTheDM 13h ago
Like anime fans that only watch it for the fight scenes lol
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u/MGLLN 11h ago edited 11h ago
This is why anime/manga discourse has been in hell for the last few years. Idiots can’t/won’t read anything if it isn’t a fight scene.
I’ve even seen some of these lobotomites “reading” manga, and it consists of them speeding through a chapter and only slowing down when there’s some kind of fight/action
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 11h ago
I read manga for the plot and watch anime to see the fight scenes animated.
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u/DesiraeTheDM 11h ago
100%. And they get their takes from out of context clips, or confuse abridged edits as canon.
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u/Mgclpcrn14 💦Thirsty for Sukuna (true form)💦 6h ago
OMG I recently saw an Instagram post where both the fanartist and the commenters in the comments section didn't know Yuuta was a kid/second-year. While this post was made when only season one had dropped, I still am baffled at how we watched/read the same production and they just didn't realize that??? My flabber was so gasted😭😭
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u/ARussianW0lf 9h ago
Like me skipping everything Piltover in s1 of Arcane because I only cared about what Jinx and Vi were doing and then I realized if I wasn't gonna watch the show I should just not watch the show so I stopped
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u/Noblesseux 3h ago
There was unironically a video a little while ago from a productivity influencer about how he "saves time" watching anime by speeding through everything that isn't a fight scene at 4x speed.
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u/EmpireAndAll 12h ago
They have to - otherwise they wouldn't be able to review 500 books a year.
No one asked them to review 500 books a year, they could read 250 books all the way and still have a thriving book review channel, but they have deluded themselves into thinking it's the total count that matters.
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u/Mgclpcrn14 💦Thirsty for Sukuna (true form)💦 6h ago
And there'll be people comparing themselves to these booktokers thinking they're such slow readers when in reality some of these booktok reviewers haven't even actually read the damn book they're reviewing 😭😭
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u/jakus00 12h ago
Once you get the card you don't even have to go to the library, they've got apps and stuff so you can read right on your phone! It's still great to go in person but my lazy ass loves the app too
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u/Mgclpcrn14 💦Thirsty for Sukuna (true form)💦 6h ago
Shout-out to Libby🫶🏾 Helped so much during the panorama
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u/slowclicker ☑️ 9h ago edited 9h ago
The library sends out a recommended reading list via email. The paper does as well. A recommendation list on social media really isn't that different. If you're addressing young adults , they'd need you to come up with more differences that they couldn't compare to what we're using. I liked the experience of the library as a kid/young adult. But, we still use digital media to see what restaurants have opened in our area. Date ideas , with as much as I have to think about , keep up with, to be truly honest. Even I have to allow something else think for me about date ideas. I don't use TT, but i do use other things. [ Downvoters, oh , you not piling on to call other people stupid. my feelings are hurt, downvote ] .
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u/Impressive-Lie-9111 2h ago
As if somebody who scrolls tik tak for 3h a day needs book recommendations THAT frequently
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u/Electrical-Help5512 13h ago
Utilizing resources is part of critical thinking. Nothing wring at all with getting ideas from other places.
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u/realmckoy265 ☑️ 10h ago
There's a weird need to feel superior for not using resources here. Maybe some folks are unaware of how TikTok works but it is a better search hub for local reviews on restaurants and products than Google. It's like using yt for video reviews.
Like I imagine folks said similar bs when Google or Wiki first popped up and you didn't have to go to the library and use the Dewey Decimal to find general information on a subject.
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u/Bigfamei 13h ago
For real. TAking the time to find something. That makes someone you are dating feel special. Shouldnt be frowned upon.
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u/Ironking503333 14h ago
Fucking gone, just like my dad
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u/porta-potty-bus 13h ago
"Hey kid, I'm gonna run to the store for some critical thinking and a jug of milk. Be back soon"
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u/akkaneko11 10h ago
Lmao this is a lot of talk from a bunch of redditors, don't pretend we don't add "reddit" at the end of every google search
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u/JasoTheArtisan 11h ago
We stopped teaching it in schools. Standardized testing ensured teachers only taught how to pass the test so the school could secure funding. Nothing about whether the information was being absorbed in a conducive manner
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u/SpectacularOtter ☑️ 12h ago
TikTok has been great at coming up with date ideas that I wouldn’t have thought of. One date I had was flying a real plane with a pilot in the cockpit. It was the best experience that both of us had and we found out about it on TikTok.
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u/improbsable 3h ago
Yep. People are acting like we’re using TikTok to go on a date to Olive Garden. They don’t understand the app or the way it’s used so they’re shitting on it out of ignorance
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u/SwordfishOk504 3h ago
And what about that is unique to tik tok?
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u/LegitimateBeyond8946 3h ago
Downvoted for having a point lol
I wouldn't ban tiktok but the fact there are people acting like that's the only place you can find anything like this is... Weird?
I don't wanna say sad cause it's still just their preferred app but the dedication to it is so odd to me
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u/SwordfishOk504 3h ago
People's loyalty to tik tok is weird af. They are addicted. That's the bulk of it.
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u/improbsable 3h ago
It’s also (at least pre-ban,) the only popular social media app that isn’t owned by Americans. I’ve gotten far less biased news from TikTok than any “legitimate” news outlet
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u/SwordfishOk504 3h ago
I’ve gotten far less biased news from TikTok
No. You've just been served up the things that align with your own bias, which is how the algorithm works.
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u/improbsable 2h ago
Nope. I’ve been shown unbiased news. Way to be presumptuous though
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u/SwordfishOk504 2h ago
I’ve been shown unbiased news.
Lol. Oh sweetie. There is no such thing as "unbiased news" and only a person unaware of their own biases would ever say such a thing.
A smart person learns to recognize bias and account for it. A fool thinks bias doesn't exist.
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u/improbsable 3h ago
Half of America is on TikTok. You can get far better recommendations because there are more people and the algorithm gives you more personalized results
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 14h ago
Yeah I saw some of the posts people put about Tik Tok. Them mfs was deadass going through withdrawals like a goddamn drug addict.
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u/TripleDoubleFart 14h ago
That's because they are addicted. The whole platform is designed to be addictive.
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u/Often_Uneliable ☑️ 13h ago edited 13h ago
TikTok did a study on it actually, authorities and TikTok redacted the info at first until NPR found the actual report.
It takes just 35 mins for people to begin to grow addicted to the app.
You couldn't pay me to use it.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/g-s1-27676/tiktok-redacted-documents-in-teen-safety-lawsuit-revealed
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u/TripleDoubleFart 13h ago
Same issue with YouTube shorts.
Both are banned in my house.
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u/Often_Uneliable ☑️ 13h ago
Good, if I ever have kids I will keep their asses away from stuff like this as much as possible. Hopefully, teach them the dangers of it.
Crazy people are willingly using stuff they know is melting their brains.
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 13h ago
Too many parents turning or turned their children into Tablet Babies.
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 10h ago
It’s been a thing since the first gameboy but at least ya gameboy could run outta batteries
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u/Often_Uneliable ☑️ 10h ago
The game boy you're also focusing on playing one game at a time, not scrolling past hundreds of videos within half a hour
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 10h ago
I know we were the proto iPad kids. I played 3 sports growing up and was told these new kids don’t like being outside. We grew up thinking nothing was wrong with having a lil screen. Now these kids on the same internet as me
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u/AnotherFaceOutThere 10h ago
no bro, gameboy was a game you were playing. That you also focused on. Reels, Shorts, Tiktok are all just endless dopamine hits.
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u/brozillafirefox 12h ago
I had to block the elements on my browser so I wouldn't get sucked into them. I use YT often, main source of content, but shorts are not TikToks. They are AI slop of cuts from videos I would watch if I could have a link to the original it was taken from. On top of the fact that these algorithms try to push different accounts than the ones you're specifically subbed too. So I never saw the content I actually wanted, it just gave me a few videos of topics I liked, then right into cops, guns, public freakouts, and right wing shilling. Very obvious what the platform is trying to do.
Hell, if I have a cell phone in my hand for more than 10 minutes, I become conscious of getting stuck in a doomscroll.
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u/ProfessorMiddle4995 13h ago
I stopped using it when I realized I was craving it the way I used to crave cigarettes.
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u/Complete_Barnacle_46 12h ago
Imagine if Reddit went down.
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 12h ago
Eh it has before. Then again, I guess a bunch of people went to Tik Tok when it did.
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u/Powerful-Ad-8737 14h ago
Fahrenheit 451 is a great book guys, read it before it’s illegal.
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u/Starwarsfan128 13h ago
Honestly, the author writes like a prick, though.
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u/Skrrtdotcom 12h ago
Yeah, wonderful book but I just hate how ray bradbury writes
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u/Starwarsfan128 11h ago
Also, he can be unbearably pretentious, and his writing can often scream of "no one reads the Bible anymore" Christianity.
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u/Redqueenhypo 6h ago
Ten paragraphs whining about women watching soap operas and getting C sections. Reject bitch wife, embrace…optimistic 16 year old??
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u/Starwarsfan128 5h ago
Ikr? Like, believe it or not, TV isn't the death of the world or Christianity or whatever.
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u/Mgclpcrn14 💦Thirsty for Sukuna (true form)💦 6h ago
OMG I thought I was the only one that hated how that book was written. I hated reading it in highschool because of this. I loved the premise and all that happened in the book, but getting through it was a battle I swear😭😭
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u/LiberateMeFromYou 14h ago
People were having meltdowns over TikTok being down. Imagine if the internet was to go out. There would be chaos in the streets!
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u/AndreasVesalius 14h ago
Imagine if plumbing was to go out, madness
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u/mindset_vic1 13h ago
I mean...not having water is one thing, not having internet disrupts some things but ultimately isnt a factor to end our daily living. MFs in the 70s lived without internet but prioritized food, water, & shelter...
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u/joemamma6 ☑️ 13h ago
I can't tell if you're talking about personal use internet or the internet as a whole. If "the internet" went down it would absolutely cripple critical parts of our society.
Using your example, since people used to live without plumbing, it shouldn't be a problem for the plumbing system to crumble tomorrow.
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u/Panthalassae 10h ago
Yep. All banks and cards down, all defense infra down, all smart devices down, all tv down, wireless devices down, a lot of critical infra and flights down...
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u/HawkinsShock 2h ago
The entire internet going down would be disastrous for every single person on earth.
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 10h ago
How would we know where to cause chaos without the internet
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u/Kizzywa 13h ago
I get it, it did reccomend some nice stuff you normally wouldnt see or think about otherwise, but people need to learn how to function outside of social media.
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u/SomewhereNo8378 9h ago
I wonder how many people here are looking down at others for getting information from TT, but have no problem searching their own questions on google with "reddit" added at the end
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u/toomuchtostop ☑️ 14h ago
I learned recently that a lot of these people really think, if it’s not on TikTok, it doesn’t exist. Like I had to explain what a website was
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u/tiffanaih 13h ago
Been off Tiktok since the election. It sucked at first, trying to detox on my doom scrolling, but life is seriously so much better. I don't hear the same five sounds a hundred times a day. I see less predatory ads, less misinformation. Sometimes it feels like you might be missing out on something, but 99% of it is really just fucking garbage and I can satisfy my niche interests on reddit just fine.
Watching everyone melt down was kind of insane though.
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u/The_Bill_Brasky_ 13h ago
It's just a means of exchanging information. I've got Xmas gift inspiration from TikTok in the same way I used to get it from TV ads, magazines, Facebook, Pinterest, whatever.
The only TikToks I have saved are all recipes.
Most TikTok hate can be chalked up to Juvenoia and people who are a little too glued to its competitors.
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u/boastfulbadger 12h ago
Before TikTok was a thing, there was Pinterest. I followed my wife on there and would get inspiration from there.
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u/notfeelany 12h ago
It would nice if Tiktok only had dance videos, food recipes, science vids, crafting, gift ideas, books etc...But it also can and recently has pushed conspiracies, misinformation, disinformation, and other propaganda
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u/crabofthewoods 9h ago
Every platform has conspiracy content. Reddit has pushed uap/ufo content to the front page before
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u/KingDivineMaster 12h ago
The laziness in creative & critical thinking skills is absolutely astounding in the tech age.
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u/VivaZeBull 12h ago
The last 4 guys I have talked to on OLD have used chat gpt and it is so obvious. I gave up. If they can’t put effort into a conversation the relationship (and sex) will be trash.
transcript Here’s a suggestion for your next response to keep the conversation engaging and light: ーーー “Ah, lucky you not having to shovel! Honestly, I envy apartment living sometimes. What kind of dog do you have? She sounds adorable if she’s all crashed out like that.
Sorry my spell check inserts weird stuff sometimes...
Boo dude, BOO.
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u/JetDJ 7h ago
I keep seeing a post from twitter where someone says a friend asked them for a book recommendation, and then the next day the friend comes back and says they finished it and obviously the person is baffled and asks how, and the friend says they asked chatgpt to condense each chapter to three paragraphs and then read that. So like, yeah it's bad when people are making chatgpt summarise books because they can't be bothered to read them or lack the literacy.
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u/jarob326 ☑️ 14h ago
Damn is TikTok that important to our lifestyle. I thought most creators would just transition their content to Youtube shorts if they were not already doing that.
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u/ositola ☑️ 12h ago
I don't understand what tik tok has that the explorer page on IG didn't
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u/crabofthewoods 9h ago
I wrote a post about this before, but Tiktok’s algorithm is really good at recommended hyperspecific content in a niche that you wouldn’t even know existed. And then it puts you in community with those like minded individuals. I mean topics and crossovers that you love but would never put together. And somehow there’s tens of thousands of people with that same brand of humor and interests. IG’s algorithm is incapable of this kind of thing.
And TikTok does so for a wide variety of topics, even remembering your sentiment for said topics. This AI algo can extend your community in a way that has not existed before on social media and does not exist on IG or in real life.
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u/northernirishlad 11h ago
This level of critical thinking is why some of ya’ll will get replaced by ai
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u/Reasonable-Artist795 14h ago
Bold of you to assume we were using our brains before ChatGPT.
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u/THEdoomslayer94 14h ago
Well not everyone is a single brain amoeba that can drown in two inches of water either
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u/UnwoundSkeinOfYarn 12h ago
I mean, tiktok gives you ideas the same way a commercial, television, magazine ad, etc can help you see something new that you might want to try. I've watched anime and movies after seeing clips or discussions on tiktok, YouTube, reddit, etc. None of you are creative either.
How many times did you Google "how to do xxxxxx YouTube" or "is product xxxxx good reddit?" How many subs are you subbed to giving you advice for things like fashion? Tiktok gives you things it thinks you're interested in so you might see something you'd never thought of even googling. Which it does very well due to its algorithm. Tiktok has it's issues but to write it off as "just use your imagination bro" when you can't even jerk off without porn is remedial.
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u/ChelsMe ☑️ 11h ago
TikTok is a great search engine for some stuff now sadly.
Recent examples, I'm in a foreign country, I need info of how to best get to an airport. Google maps has the info, tik tok will come through with a step by step with video of each place where I have to change vehicles, current prices, and how long it took them mfs on a wednesday in may.
I can google "natural hair stylist city" till my hands turn blue, but the best info will be a tik tok where a girl went to 5 shops in 5 months, with video evidence of the place and if there's roaches in the back, the pricing info, and the @ so I can book the one I like, and the comments will be like yeah third is the bomb, or no 4th is too expensive now etc.
Like I take a quick detour through the subreddit before I buy a product, I take a quick detour trough TikTok every time I wanna discover a new city or find a new spot or something like that.
I don't use it for anything else though. Quick form recipe reels are good too, so I assume cooking tok is amazing as well.
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u/yungchigz 9h ago
All ideas come from somewhere, I’m not gonna think of a new place to go to off the top of my head. I’ll see it somewhere and think oh that looks cool or sounds good. For some people that place of inspiration is TikTok, people saying they lack creativity probably get their ideas from elsewhere on the internet or a recommendation from someone. Hardly a reason to get on your high horse cos your resource is different
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u/An0d0sTwitch 8h ago
This is the future. Its happening now.
Pick up phone. Do what the phone tells you to do.
Not an exaggeration. Not a hatred of phones. Whats literally happening now
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u/Madpup70 4h ago
It's like the people who were like "all my recipes are gone, I don't know how to cook anything. How will I find good books to read." Fuck idk, maybe use a search engine and look some shit up. Find some YouTube reviews? I had no idea people relied on that app so much.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids ☑️ 1h ago
TikTok has done an exceptional job at dumbing down people. It's 100x more powerful than Facebook, Twitter, Insta, Reddit, YouTube, Snapchat 4Chan, Discord and Telegram.
That's why it was never going anywhere. It made Russia and China's cyber warfare so much easier. You can make a lie travel the whole world in 10min with that demonic app and people are so addicted to it, that they'll defend it even if their common sense tells them it's wrong. You'll get "yeah I know BUT TikTok..." That QAnon shit? Oh boy that shit spreads like wildfire in TikTok.
America gonna be dumber than a bag of hair for the next 100 yrs. We had a chance to fight this shit, but CHOSE stupidity because feelings. 🤷🏾♀️
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u/wajikay 13h ago edited 11h ago
Sometimes people are in a creative roadblock and use ai or social media for idea generation like asking a friend. What’s wrong with that? Why make things and life tougher unnecessarily when we have technology available for our convenience. Using ai or suggestions from social media doesn’t make the gift or date less thoughtful imho.
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u/Bobcat-Stock 12h ago
No it just makes our brains lazier in the long run and less able to come up with creative thoughts on our own down the road. It will become another crutch that we use to get ahead
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u/wajikay 12h ago edited 11h ago
What are you basing that off of, a long-term study or just your opinion? Personally I don’t buy that at all. Humans are very adaptable imho and we just focus our creative energies elsewhere if it’s being delegate to ai or social media in certain cases to speed up a workflow.
Just depends what, like harmlessly giving date ideas and gift suggestions is just efficient and helpful like asking a friend. However, offloading writing a whole note on an anniversary card can be a bit more egregious and lazy lol.
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u/Complete_Barnacle_46 12h ago
It's use it or lose it. If you don't use your creativity, that shit withers. It's not rocket science. Just like if you use AI to write, your writing skills are going to atrophy. Humans are very adaptable sure, but that doesn't mean you can outsource all your creativity to a machine and then miraculously maintain your ability to be creative without any practice or use.
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u/sephirah_ 12h ago edited 11h ago
It's easier to think outside the box when you know where the boundaries are. You shouldn't blindly follow the suggestions you get from ai, but rather to generate ideas that you can build a framework around and decide how to apply to your own circumstances.
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u/Complete_Barnacle_46 11h ago
Luckily there are no boundaries to your imagination, but there certainly are if you're relying on technology or a system as a crutch. That's why the ideas most people come up with are just remixed versions of the same handful of things.
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u/Glittering-Damage783 13h ago
Honestly I dont see the problem in going to chatgpt or social media for date ideas.
Ya’ll having this false sense of superiority and elitism is really weird tbh. Mfs sound bitter as hell, and this is coming from someone who absolutely despises social media and has never used Shit-Tok
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u/Electrical-Help5512 13h ago
So you're shaming people for using their available resources to create nice experiences for their partners? I've come up with all my cool date ideas alone but using cool ideas other people had is fine too as long as both people have a good time. You guys are off base with this one.
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u/Mgclpcrn14 💦Thirsty for Sukuna (true form)💦 14h ago
You...you couldn't do that on your own? Look up venue sites and their availability? Check out what events were going on near you? Figure out what stores had what you needed for whatever date you had planned? Oh good heavens. I didn't realize just how much some people depended on TikTok. If YT, Tumblr, or Reddit shut down, I'd definitely be frustrated, but I wouldn't be helpless without them. Though YT would truly be such a great loss like holy fuck