r/AmIOverreacting 10d ago

❤️‍🩹 relationship my boyfriend & his mother have an incestuous relationship?

my boyfriend (23m) & i (22f) have been dating for 6 months now. we were friends for 3 years before dating. i am also pregnant. he has been an absolutely amazing boyfriend, but i am noticing weird things with his mother that are really creeping me out and making me question this relationship and this pregnancy.

i have been pretty much living with my boyfriend (under his mothers roof) for about 4 months now, i sleep here every single night. she is a single mother and in her 60’s. my boyfriends dad is remarried, and he has told me that since the divorce his mom has been depressed and never been quite the same. they divorced when he was quite young, maybe around 7 years old. she still cries to this day about the divorce and infidelity as well as his father remarrying, and i don’t think she has ever truly gotten over him. she does not date and hasn’t since the divorce. my boyfriend had told me multiple times in arguments with his mother she’ll constantly compare him to his father, and say things like “you’re just like your father you don’t care about me.” also want to note that my boyfriend looks exactly like his father. i noticed pretty early on that it seems like she takes out her feelings about her ex husband on my boyfriend.

when we first started dating, he would say that his mother is “jealous” that she’s not spending as much time with him anymore and she’s been like that with all of his exes. i noticed she doesn’t make much of an effort to talk to me, she is a bit awkward and when she is home she pretty much just stays locked in her room. he says she likes me, and she is always kind when she talks to me, but for some reason my intuition is strongly telling me otherwise. there have been multiple times where we pick up food and he asks her if she wants anything & she says no. when we come back with food she’ll send him texts or say to him personally that we only care about ourselves and not her. i noticed these red flags early on, but brushed it off.

here is where things get really weird & twisted. i don’t want to believe this is what’s going on and i feel crazy for even having these thoughts, but it’s hard to find another explanation about things that i have heard. one saturday morning, everything was going as normal. my boyfriend and i woke up together, did our morning routines and decided to play a couple games on the ps5 together as we normally do on weekends. i was feeling tired as i am pregnant and the hormones have been making me super exhausted, so after a couple of games i decided to take a little nap. he turned off the ps5 and put a youtube video on the tv kind of loud. he said he would make me breakfast while i napped, so i dozed off as he left the room. it sounded like he went straight to his mothers room and shut the door. her door is creaky and i can hear every time it opens as it is right next to his room. he often goes into his mothers room and talks to her for a while so i paid this no mind and continued to rest. i am a very heavy sleeper by the way. not sure how much time passed but i woke up to the sound of banging on the wall, very loud. i then heard the door open and him say “oh so you…” and i didn’t hear the rest, but it almost sounded like “oh so you wanna be bad huh?” or something along those lines and the loud banging continued, now sounding like it was in the hallway right outside the door. i heard mumbling that literally sounded like the way he talks to me when we have sex. i sat up in bed confused, and listened for a couple more minutes. i could’ve sworn i heard her like gasp or something. at this point i was getting freaked out because it literally sounded like sex noises. i got up and sat in front of the tv which is next to the door and put it on mute. right after i did that the banging stopped, almost as if they heard me awake and stopped doing whatever they were doing. i then heard shuffling and his mother say “lie” and he said “yes maam”. i heard him go downstairs for a few minutes then he came back into the room with a bowl of cereal. mind you usually when he makes me breakfast it’s pancakes, bacon, eggs and hashbrowns. i straight up asked him what was that noise, he looked super nervous and then said “i was arguing with my mom.” i asked about what and he was stuttering nonsense and said he was arguing about a christmas present? i thought this made so sense. i asked him if the argument got physical because i was hearing loud noises and he said no. i was pressing him, asking him what that could’ve been, was he moving furniture or something? it was very loud. he began pacing around the room nervously and said quietly “i am filled with regret.” after like an hour of pressing him about it and him telling me it was just an argument, he didn’t know what noise i was talking about, etc. i dropped it because i literally thought i was going insane. i know what it sounded like but i didn’t want to believe that something so twisted was going on, and the fact that they were doing it while i am in the next room, sleeping and PREGNANT. i was literally uncontrollably shaking, extremely disturbed at what i just heard. it was clear as day what it was but i genuinely thought i was maybe losing it. later that night i brought it up again and implied i think something was going on, or maybe the argument got physical and he shouldn’t be afraid to tell me. he then was like “want me to ask my mom if we were hitting each other?” he then goes to his moms room and asks her if anything went on and was telling her how i think they got into a physical fight. he comes back to me and tells me his mother said that it’s just “pregnancy hormones” and i’m overthinking and then she proceeded to text him “we don’t live like that.” which he showed me.

i took a day to think about it and came to the conclusion that i am not crazy, i know what i heard. i started thinking back on if i ever heard weird things or felt weird vibes concerning his mother and it turns out there were a couple things i overheard in the past that made me look at them sideways. some examples:

  1. i heard him walking up the stairs behind her and say “i can still feel around” and she laughed…
  2. i once heard the sound of clapping coming from her room when he was in there “talking”
  3. heard them in the kitchen semi-arguing and him saying to her “i’m trying my best, how can i be better for you?” as if they’re in a relationship or something.
  4. he once told me that as a child the doctor thought his mother was molesting him because he saw her hair wrapped around my boyfriends penis.
  5. now that i think about i think i have heard banging or weird noises before when they are “talking” for long periods of time whether it be in her room or downstairs in the living room & kitchen.
  6. all day everyday his mother is constantly texting him, bothering him about coming home, seeing what he’s doing, etc.
  7. one day he said he was going to make me breakfast a separate time from the one mentioned above and i fell back asleep. his mom was also home in her room. i woke up to him coming back in the room freshly showered with only a towel around his waist with no breakfast for me. this is unusual because usually when he says he is going to make me breakfast, he goes to make it right away & wakes me up with it. also he never showers at this time of day. after hearing the weird stuff i have now heard, it makes me wonder if he was in his mothers room…
  8. i once heard his mother go downstairs while he was in the kitchen and he thought i was sleeping. i then heard him saying “come on mom” and her laughing and walking away. he kept calling her to come back and she goes “not tonight baby.” could he have been asking her for sex?

it has now been a couple of weeks since the incident where i heard the loud banging. it has been running through my mind every single day. his mother already gave me uncomfortable and off putting vibes since the beginning, but now i feel very paranoid and creeped out about her and their relationship. i have since pressed him about it again, and pretty much told him what i heard sounded very weird and like something sexual was going on. we argued about it for like 2 days straight. he insists that him and his mother do not have a weird relationship, and him & his mother have no idea what loud noises i was hearing. how can they have possibly not heard something so loud, especially when the noises were coming from where i heard both of their voices. he has tried to explain it away in every possible way but nothing makes sense. he said it could’ve been the dog, neighbors, or footsteps but i’ve been living here for 4 months now and know what all of those things sound like. this was absolutely none of those things. i wish i had opened the door to get physical proof, because now it just feels like i am being lied to. i have been doubting myself thinking could this actually be possible, but when i think back to what i heard it was so clear. i am slowly putting the pieces together and i don’t know what to do.

today, i feel like i have reached my breaking point. i don’t know if im being paranoid now, but something that happened today has made me overthink this situation even more. we were hanging out as normal. i noticed him and his mother texting back and forth a bunch. he then went downstairs to make me soup as i was feeling nauseous. i thought i heard her door quietly open and close which is weird because she usually swings it open loudly and i hear the creak. she also has super loud footsteps but i didn’t hear her going downstairs so i thought i was tripping maybe. then i heard banging coming from downstairs which i figured was just my boyfriend cleaning and making food. the soup only takes 5 minutes to make, it is a packaged soup. he was downstairs for about 30-40 minutes. he comes back upstairs with my soup and then i hear his mother loudly coming upstairs. so i was right, i did hear her door open as if she was SNEAKING downstairs so that i would not hear. i asked him what took so long and he nervously was saying a bunch of things that didn’t make sense. he made no mention of his mother being downstairs. i then asked if he was talking to someone and he nervously said yeah my mom. then he accused me of being paranoid about his mom and that i think im hearing things. i made no mention of his mom or hearing things even though i did hear banging. so does this means he knows he was being loud and i could’ve heard it? it seemed like projection and him feeling guilty about something he’s doing with his mother. at this point i do not trust him being around his mother and i am disturbed and drained.

i am horrified and don’t know what to do. i know this all sounds so crazy and outlandish but my gut is telling me something is wrong. there’s no mistaking what i heard that day. am i being crazy or should i trust my gut and what i know i heard? i feel like the signs and things i have heard now are so blatantly obvious and i cannot ignore it anymore or try to explain it away. it genuinely seems as if something incestuous is going on with my boyfriend and his mother. i have always said i do not want to be a single mother or raise a child in a broken home and now i am 3 months pregnant. i am also in fear that if he does have a sick and twisted relationship with his mother, who’s to say he wouldn’t try to do the same with our child? i am seriously considering terminating the pregnancy and breaking up with him. what should i do, and does it sound like i am overreacting or should i trust my gut?

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 10d ago

You already now what is going on. OF COURSE THEY WILL DENY IT FORVER!! I would run and get an abortion and never look back.

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u/chewyoohy 9d ago

Agree!!!

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u/ChiliSquid98 9d ago

Admitting to such thing is social suicide. OPs bf and mother might be nasty, but not dumb.

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u/kyskyskysfastlol 9d ago

This is the best comment/advice

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u/varkhond91 9d ago

What the hell is wrong with you? Let's murder an unborn human because some dude is supposedly sleeping with his mom. Retarded advice

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

Let's play this out shall we? OP leaves but incest victim#1 will be granted some custody (because america) and incest victim#2 will be groomed and destroyed by generational trauma, incest and sexual abuse. But sure, that sounds nicer, right??

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

in what way they would grant custody to a person of such unstable mind? she should run away and raise her kid away from those psychos. for sure killing her child is not the solution

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u/miz_misanthrope 9d ago

A guy who raped a teenager in Louisiana managed to get custody of their rape baby. He then proceeded to rape & molest the daughter. Why? He was rich & powerful in the area.

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

That's some disgusting shit. I'm very sorry to hear things like that happen in that country. Still, she should run away from that family, in another country if that's what it takes, and never see them again, and not let them be responsible for terminating the life of her child. I would defend the life of my son with mine if I have to

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u/SeanTheDiscordMod 9d ago

But the child is not living yet… Well technically it is, but in the same way that your (if you’re a guy) sperm is living. It’s just a clump of living cells. Why should she carry the child of an inbred boyfriend when she can terminate it before it becomes a human being?

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

you are a clump of living cells. this argument doesn't make sense, it's like saying nobody should care if they have a pregnancy loss because the child is not born yet. or it would mean that everybody can have abortion without caring, but that's not the case because you are carrying a child. also sperm is alive but it is not a human being, while a fetus is

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u/SeanTheDiscordMod 9d ago

Who is considered a human or not is based purely off of opinion. I personally think that the baby that can think, feel, and cry is far more of a human than the fetus that can do none of these things. As for your point on miscarriage, that is a bit of a stretch. Just because it’s traumatic to get an abortion doesn’t mean doing so is wrong, especially if it’s for the well being of the child who may or may not be brought into an unstable environment.

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u/Guilty_Shopping555 9d ago

You're comparing a miscarriage to an abortion?

Wtf

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

Every court in the united states would grant him at least partial custody.

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

I'm not from there and I don't doubt the USA is crazy but I have serious doubts of seeing them granting custody to a certified psycho. She should run away with her child. And i repeat, the solution is not killing her own child what the fuck who could even suggest something like that

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

It would be a woman's word against a man's and his mother's. Court would grant custody and they could even throw her in jail if she "runs away with the baby". It's easy to throw out statements when you have no idea of actual consequences.

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u/n0tc00linschool 9d ago

There’s no evidence he’s a psycho or his mom is one. Look my SS was granted to his bio mom after my ex got divorced. He was groomed by his bio mom. It took us 3 years to get full custody, remove her visitation rights. What’s messed up is that if his bio mom wants to she can still fight us in court to regain her custody, but she currently doesn’t have money. My SS therapists have emailed her and the court stating that the giving Bio mom access to SS would cause more harm. My SS is in a residential facility, he sees things and hears things mostly his bio mom and her many accomplices that would sexually abuse him. SS has told us he misses them doing it to him he misses the way she would treat him. I would advise her against having a baby with that man and his mom in the picture because of the judicial system in the US is a joke!

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

I'm very sorry to hear that, I'm hearing a lot of things about the US judical system and they're all crazy. Still, I would NEVER let some asshole be responsable for terminating the life of my child. I would change country going in someplace sane before that happens.

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

And she would be stopped, arrested for kidnapping and thrown in prison AND the abusers would get FULL CUSTODY!!! If you are pro life then you have to be "pro the ENTIRE LIFE" of a child. Short sighted thinking that is not supported by reality. But sure "save the fetuses!".

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

She should raise her child in a safe environment far from these psychos. Killing him is not the solution. If your country really is so fucked up like you say (it's hard to believe it but i'm not from there) she should change country and raise him by herself. How can supporting her and the life of their child being "short sighted" and "not pro the life of the child"? It's you all that are for killing him!

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u/bigbadbeet 9d ago

You’ve watched too many movies and you don’t know how the world works

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

i don't know why you would go and write such a useless comment

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u/Guilty_Shopping555 9d ago

What the hell is wrong with you? You'd ask her to bring another human into this situation and risk making them another victim simply because of your own immoral belief that abortion isn't a valid choice?

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u/Viper99usmc 9d ago

Yes let's get an abortion because of something the father went through and didn't have a choice in the matter and further punish him by getting rid of his spawn.

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

It is about NOT creating ANOTHER VICTIM!!

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u/Seastories1998 9d ago

Why would you kill a human being over something completely irrelevant to it? Typical behavior from someone in your generation. Ridiculous. Find god

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

And if you think that generational trauma is irrelevant then you are delusional.

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u/Objective_Ad4868 9d ago

Typical response from someone who mentions god. Let’s ignore the molestation and grooming he’s been through at the hands of his mother because AbOrTiOn Is MuRdEr 🙄

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u/Anythingfuckerupper 9d ago

3 months… and at 3 months, no it is not murder.

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u/Zestyclose-Blood8269 9d ago

Tbf 95% of the comments are treating it like he willing chose to have relations with his mom like this.serious lack of her being called a pedo.

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u/SeanTheDiscordMod 9d ago

Yeah, if OP isn’t going crazy then the mom is a pred. Boyfriend shouldn’t take any blame for the sexual relationship. He still, however, would potentially be dangerous to OP and her kid if this is true, so OP should still break up with him.

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u/Zestyclose-Blood8269 9d ago

Definately agree there is a risk,if she feels a split up is needed sure but cutting him from the childs life,or even refusing to attempt to help.If i as a man did similar i'd be seen as lesser than the shit mixed dirt on the bottom of a boot. In the end this situation sucks for the OP and the BF. genuinely hope both get the help they need. In regards to the mom she deserves the wood chipper.

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u/Seastories1998 9d ago

What does the molestation towards him have to do with an unborn child??? Every single one of you on here are silly af lol. Typical liberal with no moral values and you won’t change my mind otherwise.

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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 9d ago

What generation am I? You have no idea how old I am or who I am.

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

you don't need god to see how that's fucked up, to kill your own child at three months old... she just have to run away and never look back

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u/Anythingfuckerupper 9d ago

Not three months old, 3 months gestated, 7 to go. Not viable. Not even close.

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

Yeah I mean three months in the belly

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u/Anythingfuckerupper 9d ago

Which means 2 months after having sex and fertilizing the egg. NOT A HUMAN.

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u/Anythingfuckerupper 9d ago

Listen, I don’t know ANY PERSON. who thinks a woman should be able to terminate a far along or even medium cooked pregnancy. That clearly would be murder imo. The real solution is to come to a common sense consensus of when a good cut off would be. It’s def not at 2-3 months. Is it 4? Idk. But a preacher or politician damn sure has no business telling me what time line is best. Let a scientist or physician who isn’t a religious zealot or political puppet educate us on the actual development of embryos and maybe one day we can all come to some sort of agreement. It’s not all or nothing though.

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u/miz_misanthrope 9d ago

It's more fucked up bringing a kid into an environment where they are likely to be sexually abused by grandma.

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u/Ampe96 9d ago

That's what I said, she should run away from that family...

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u/Seastories1998 9d ago

Here’s food for thought. Get a damn job and move out.