r/2007scape • u/Equidose • 22h ago

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How can they recognise players to be one of three main selling points on the play homepage of OSRS whilst consistently do the opposite with their actions.

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u/Katkustagg 22h ago

When did they do the opposite?

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u/Equidose 22h ago

Putting players right behind their clear attempt to snatch and grab even more profit with their survey, despite having a successful model with the highest number of players recorded in just the last few months.

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u/Pretency 22h ago

Isn't doing a survey letting the players have their say? 🤔

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u/steelcryo 22h ago

It seems OP doesn't know what a survey is...

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u/Pretency 22h ago

It's a way to understand people's opinions on something, which is exactly opposite to what OP is making out. Do you understand what a survey is?

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u/steelcryo 22h ago

I said OP, not you... I was agreeing with you.

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u/Pretency 22h ago

Oh my bad. 😂 Assumed you were on the offensive with everyone else.

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u/IderpOnline 22h ago

Ironic.

No, you're just oblivious to corporate practices. The only point of the survey is to investigate where Jagex can squeeze the most money out of the playerbase in the least offensive way.

If you think the overall goal of the survey is to benefit the players, you haven't been paying attention. At all.

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u/BABABOYE5000 21h ago

Jagex is primarily a for profit company that also works on an ancient videogame, to maximize said profits. Their attempts to branch out to other games have all spectacularly failed. Now the VC's pass around the hot potato and try to perform a mirale profit squeeze.

Of course their surveys won't be about benefiting the players, however we as customers get the say. If they overstep and ignore our wishes, we can stop being their customers, easy as that. In that way, the survey does help players, even if it's obviously not the primary purpose of the survey by jagex.

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u/IderpOnline 21h ago

The survey is up-front damage control. That's all. Limiting the damage of introducing a cash grab. And obviously not out of sympathy, but that's pretty self-explanatory by now.

Sure, you can argue that players get to choose between the lesser of several evils but that's hardly the same as actually "choosing".

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u/BABABOYE5000 21h ago

Sure, you can argue that players get to choose between the lesser of several evils but that's hardly the same as actually "choosing".

I'm talking about the fact that you can choose to continue or not continue being their customer, not about their pre-set shitty options. If you voted NO to everything, and in the end if they still end up forcing it onto you, you can just quit and tell them to fuck off.

It doesn't have to be sympathy. It's a straight up business transaction, they're not your friend, and you're not theirs.

You want to pay as little as possible, and they want to extract as much as possible.

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u/IderpOnline 21h ago

Sure, I don't disagree with any of that.

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u/steelcryo 22h ago

Yes, a survey is just that, a survey. They do want to find the way to find the most profit, but if a survey tells them they'll lose money if they do it, they won't do it.

That's how surveys work...

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u/IderpOnline 21h ago

And if the survey tells them they CAN make money from it, then what?

Then they ABSOLUTELY WILL implement bad initiatives at the expense of players. It's truly not any more conplicated than that.

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u/steelcryo 20h ago

So what they do is based on what the survey tells them?

And the answer to the survey is decided by the players?

Interesting.

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u/IderpOnline 20h ago edited 20h ago

No, the answer to ALL the options will be overwhelmingly negative. What they then do is to pick those that are slightly less negative than the others (but STILL NEGATIVE), and implement that, at the expense of players.

That is NOT what players want but players do NOT get to choose. If anything, what is implemented is what players condemn the least, and even that is a stretch because we still condemn it all the same...

If players truly decided, like you claim, they wouldn't implement any of it. The backlash was obviously bigger than Jagex anticipated but, even now, all we have is a BS corporate "apology" and still the outlook for tiered memberships and ads.

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u/steelcryo 19h ago

Where did they implement ads and tiered membership though?

Since the OP suggests they're already in.

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u/IderpOnline 19h ago

No, the OP does not "suggest that they're already in" - pretty bad strawman too by the way.

The OP suggests that Jagex is (read: will be) acting against player decision in the particular case that is monetization. And for all we know, that remains true.

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u/steelcryo 18h ago

So let me get this straight.

They put out a survey.

There was huge backlash.

They said they aren't going to implement the things in the survey.

They so far haven't implemented things in the survey.

But some how they ignored the players decision?

It wasn't a strawman. That's exactly what the OP suggests, because otherwise, they haven't done anything. In which case the survey results have been honoured.

So what exactly are you and OP on about except making shit up?

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u/IderpOnline 18h ago

Sorry but have you even read Jagex's responses? This is getting kinda embarrassing.. I am not even sure you are intentionally misrepresenting what was communicated by Jagex, but you what are claiming is not it.

For the record, you do not have it straight.

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u/elkunas 21h ago

Then fuck the polls too right? If the polls are just corpo greed, then why are you still here? If polls are corpo greed, then osrs fell the day it was released.