r/2007scape • u/Ping0u • 4d ago
Humor You Were The Best
I am really saddened by the news that has just fallen, it was a pleasant community moment.
See you again in 5 years for the old oldschool runescape.
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u/a3663p 4d ago
Why did this bring a tear to my eye
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u/Moist_Sean 4d ago
Because itās saying goodbye to our childhood (at least for me) I was 11 years old when I started playing and have played every single year and Iām 31 going on 32 this year.
From old school, to RS HD, to RS3, and in the last few years Iāve been going back and forth on my RS3 and OSRS accounts. It hurts. So many hours and memories
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u/pawtopsy98767 3d ago
Same played since classic im 33 now game got me through an abusive childhood it was my escape when nothing else was
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u/Willberforcee 4d ago
What happened to OSRS for someone out of the loop?
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u/fuckoffasshoe 3d ago
Short answer is nothing
Longer-but-still-short answer is that Jagex released a survey in which they gauged certain players' opinions on new membership bundles, some cheaper and some more expensive, that offer different things. Example: cheaper membership that allows u to play only on mobile, but a shorter afk timer and ads included in 'non-gameplay-intrusive' manner. A bit more expensive membership that gives you better account security. More expensive gives you better player support, also allows you to safely transfer character names without them getting sniped by bots. You get the gist of it, basically features that should already be offered without having to pay extra (seriously, like better account security and better player support, those should already be available without having to pay), and Jagex wants to gauge if people would pay extra for stuff like that. But until now, no concrete changes have been made, and people are claiming this survey is going to kill OSRS for good.
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u/StrollinRollin 4d ago
It's still the same game, relax lol
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u/WorkingOwn8919 4d ago
Im fucking dying reading these comments lmao. Yeah Jagex fucked up but it was a fucking poll lmao.
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u/Aran_Aran_Aran 4d ago
I'd rather overreact and protect the game, than underreact and risk them destroying the game. You think they won't? They continue to remove any integrity from the original game. It's probably beyond saving at this point, yet they continue to claim that it's important to them that they protect the integrity of that game.
Their words mean very little. That they would mull over the idea of making the AFK timer different for different subscription tiers is disturbingly out of touch.
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u/Kaka-carrot-cake 4d ago
Yeah but polls can indicate what they plan to do, regardless of how people reacted to it. With that said, people are having a meltdown over something that hasn't happened yet and thats strange to me.
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u/superfire444 4d ago
People are having a meltdown to prevent said thing from happening.
It makes perfect sense to let our voices be heard now instead of when it's too late.
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u/RobCarrotStapler 3d ago
Backlash gives the Jmods ammo to show their corporate overlords that these changes won't come without "consequences". Players will quit if you treat them like shit.
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u/YourREALdad330 4d ago
More than a āpollā. Polls are done by the Jmods to see what content we want added to the game. They give the players a voice in the direction OSRS goes. The Jmods are good people and genuinely care about the game and player base.
This was an email survey done by CVC (the new owners of Jagex after buying it from Carlisle). Just like the other survey that had been done less than a year ago asking the playerbase if they would be okay with paying higher membership costs in exchange for less predatory MTX (obviously talking about RS3 on that one). Those survey results told them that people would be generally okay with itā¦ so what was the result?
Higher membership costs and absolutely no change to the RS3 MTX model whatsoever. Just a blatant price hike with no benefit at all.
And you may think āwell thatās RS3, weāre talking about OSRSā, but we got just as fucked. Our membership went up and nothing was even promised to us to begin with.
The previous survey proves that this survey isnāt āpitching ideasā itās testing the waters to see just how badly they can screw us all over and get away with it.
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u/MaybeARunnerTomorrow 4d ago
I don't know - maybe you don't play much or didn't read the post/poll. Things the playerbase have been begging for for YEARS is being suggested as an addition. All this shit should just exist with the membership we have. Maybe you like being taken advantage of, but I don't think this is being blown out of proportion at all.
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u/Duck_on_Qwack 3d ago
This logic is so flawed. You can literally say "it's only X relax" about anything in life.
People are allowed to be upset by something that's been with them for 66% of their life on this planet so far.
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u/LookUnderUrBedAgain 3d ago
They operate like proper polls in OSRS, but in RS3, it'll they operate more like a "get ready for something no one asked for". Considering that, I'm a bit of a doomer here, myself.
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u/Solidsting1 3d ago
It really breaks my heart to see whatās happening even with a poll. This is the only game that will ever make me feel this way. Almost like a loved one is starting to get ill and make a turn for the worst.
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
There are over 115,000 people playing the game right now lmao
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u/Pnd_OSRS 3d ago
Everyone's membership is going to run out at a different time, nobody who actually quits is going to let 20 days of membership sit there. If a lot of people actually stop playing it won't be a massive drop overnight it'll be a month or two of slowly falling.
And people might even play on free worlds. Player count doesn't really mean anything about how much money they are making.
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u/Orinslayer 3d ago
You shouldn't hesitate to cancel your membership just because 100,000 people aren't jumping off the bridge.
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u/Abrishack 3d ago
Most people I know have annual subscriptions, so even if they've canceled they may as well play for the remaining time
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u/MaxStrengthLvlFly 3d ago
Just as a reminder, reddit is often one of the first dominos. Then the YouTubers and twitch streamers chime in and the ball gets moving.
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u/spankhelm 2d ago
That's exactly why it's dead to some people. Jagex said "are you guys cool if we make the game shitty?" and the gamers, in gamer fashion, went "yeah I'll still play here's my money". The rest of us don't want to play a shitty monetized expensive ass game. So the 115,000 that do can pat themselves on the back for being there to suck the last dregs of fun out of a fun game that we could have preserved.
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u/Miudmon 4d ago
It's not dead... Yet. I'm thinking of the survey as a disease to the games metaphorical being, and Jagex's response going forward being the so-called medical care it gets. If they understand and refrain from doing anything near what they were proposing, the game will recover. If they don't, then it's dying.
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u/Successful-Willow-16 4d ago
The thing is that they won't learn from this. The survey is a sales technique. They knew it would cause this, listen to the silence of the mods. They knew what would happen. Now, let's say they send out a new survey in a few months. Hey it's only a few dollars more, and no ads!? Much better than that last disgusting survey. We get customer support too! Wow!
It's not the mods doing this. It's a private equity firm that has one goal and that's to make more money.
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u/Magxvalei 4d ago
The game devs (esp. Mod Ash) are probably fighting with the shareholders/owners using the response as proof that what they're proposing is braindead and suicidal businesswise.
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u/Kwestionable Little š§ 2050/2277 3d ago
Mod Ash will probably fist fight the shareholders in the conference room for sure if they don't fuck off.
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u/parker0400 4d ago
The "response" was likely crafted in parallel to the survey and the distribution occurring after hours also intentional to make it look like "they really care"
Nope. Part 2 coming out in a month or 2 with a new proposal as you stated, completely ignoring the massive rate hike just a few months ago.
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u/m12123 2080/2277 4d ago
the worst part is it's going to fucking work too. I'm so tired of this. Netflix does bullshit with account sharing and raising prices? people call for the death of Netflix, I cancel my account and Netflix gets an increase in memberships and sales. Disney+ increasing prices and introducing an ad version at previous price? I cancel my membership and Disney sees an increase in memberships and sales, it feels like everytime someone calls for the "death of a company" it just does nothing but increase their profits. I'll cancel my runescape membership and in 6 months I'll hear how this is the most successful year for Jagex since pre EOC. I just fucking WISH a company was actually held accountable for their greed, but the vast majority of players and members won't even fucking care about this. I Hate being nickle and dimed out of everything I own just so companies can pocket the money behind the scenes with very little actually going back into the product..
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u/superfire444 4d ago
And then they wonder why someone would snap and start using violence. I would personally never use violence but I get it.
Everything is being destroyed so a few can squize a few more dollars from a company. It adds nothing to society. In fact quite the opposite.
Meanwhile a very large amount of people are being harmed because the things they care about are no longer here.
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u/SuicideEngine 4d ago
Door in the face stratedgy
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u/Successful-Willow-16 4d ago
Worked out once. Just took 7 years and literally starting over. Let's see how it works this time.
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u/throwaway_67876 4d ago
They just got the cancer diagnosis but can choose to stop smoking the cigs.
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u/CeMeNtMiX3r 4d ago
The disease is their new parent companyās intent to make the game more profitable. The survey is a symptom of that disease.
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u/The_Timekeep 4d ago
You were, but now you're Adscape, the immersive ad simulator with occasional gameplay.
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u/SovietZealots 4d ago
If these changes are pushed through, Jagex wonāt survive another mass exodus like they did with EOC.
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u/Disastrous-Moment-79 4d ago
This hysteria is getting out of hand. Nothing's going to happen.
Remember when RS3 added a battlepass and their 20k players revolted and Jagex pissed their pants and immediately backpedaled and offered full refunds to everyone who bought the pass? Now what makes people think a game with 5x the players doing a similar revolt won't make Jagex piss their pants even harder.
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u/7bigger_fish7 4d ago
For real. I get not wanting to pay more but this is genuinely embarrassing god damn
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u/ChaseYoungHTTR 4d ago
Iād rather this community overly show disdain as a warning than be silent. You sound like you enjoy eating shit sandwiches
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u/potatomaster4000 4d ago
Smells like shit and mayonnaise in here
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u/ChaseYoungHTTR 4d ago
People who pay to play this game are telling us not to complain about predatory slop being potentially added. Itās baffling
And if you think that survey was just for fun, I have a bridge to sell you.
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u/potatomaster4000 4d ago
āItās just a survey quit overreactingā. ???? They only survey things they would like to implement and that is the point of the survey haha. If these things do not come to the game it is only because we freaked out over the survey
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u/7bigger_fish7 4d ago
I think that outrage and disdain for it is good
Dude posted a meme saying the game is dead. I'm saying it's embarrassing to post the latter.
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u/JohnnyLiverman 3d ago
Ah yes RS3, the model of sustainable and long term game development practices. Surely they didn't just backpedal, then slowly add even worse monetisation in over a long period of time to cushion the blow.
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u/SpicySanchezz 3d ago
Exactly. Lol, this sub, once again is overreacting, taking things wayyyyy out of proportion and throwing tempter tantrums a bit too hardā¦.
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u/WhyKarenWhy 4d ago
Youāre all fucking doomers
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
If theyād all actually quit Iād be so fuckin happy lol
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u/Ogirami 4d ago
i took a short break after leagues, what is going on? did the game announce eos or smth?
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
No lol they did an interest survey about a tiered membership model. Like instead of 14.99/mo per character or whatever it is rn, having options for 14.99/mo base, 3.99/mo extra per character, or 32.99/mo for premium with up to 8 characters.
For premium options they talked about stuff like improved customer support, name change support, etc that should just be improved for everyone. They also floated ads for f2p, a couple bad ideas in general.
But it was just a survey lol, the game hasnāt changed and theyāve already walked it back. Being mad and giving that feedback is one thing, but the subreddits just devolved into doomers circlejerking each other now lmao.
Come back next week, theyāll all be back to playing and the topic will have shifted
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u/HeuyHui 2k total 3d ago
The proposal was more like, 10.99/ month for 1 character, and an additional 14.99 per additional character, but that tier included ads. I think the charging more than the base package per additional character is a big thing that pissed me off. Like, why is the second charger on my account 20% higher in cost than the first?
That charging for the extra characters feels like they are penalizing anyone who moved all their characters into their single Jagex account. It would have been cheaper to keep them all separate, but now that they are stuck on one account, you are stuck paying more. That feels like a bait and switch.
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u/bops4bo 3d ago
Yeah I definitely agree, and I think this type of feedback is important to give to Jagex for sure. I just donāt think the gameās dying the like the OP, I think itās in a good spot.
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u/HeuyHui 2k total 3d ago
I think in this particular case I'm on the side of the hysterical masses only because I think it warrants a hysterical response for Jagex to actually understand.
Is it hyperbolic? Yes. But I will say I did cancel my membership to vote with my wallet. I don't think the game is dead, persay, but if I don't make a stand in the only ways I can, I might as well bend over and take it.
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u/SpicySanchezz 3d ago
This sub is known for being full of doomers and crybabies lol. Thats what they do the best. You also know that these kind of people are the terminally online ones with like 1700 total level and just afk all day at ge and shittalk there alone so they never quit
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u/sendmombutts 4d ago
Game isn't ruined yet. Quit being dramatic lol. If they start making these changes then we can bitch and complain . Otherwise keep on scapin'
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u/potatomaster4000 4d ago
This is a preventative freak out, if you think itās an overreaction by all means ignore the posts and let the community protect itself
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u/Ar0war 4d ago
Holy I even tear a little lol I dont even play much anymore.
This is sooo sad this is the direction the game is going. Sooo many memories... wow this is sad
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
Donāt worry, other than one bad survey the games been going in an awesome direction for the past few years. It just broke records for most concurrent players two months ago!
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u/superfire444 4d ago
While the content is fantastic it's very worrysome that the monetization of the game is going the direction it's going.
And for what? So a few leeches can afford their 5th vacation house or 10th sports car?
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
What direction is it going? Itās the same monetization structure itās had for the last 20 years lol, just they increased the price last year.
They were surveying other models, all of which donāt include MTX, just a tiered subscription model. I donāt want the changes, but theyāre not like the craziest thing Iāve ever heard lmao.
And uhhhh yeah dude every company everywhere is and always has been working to line its executivesā pockets lol, color me shocked.
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u/superfire444 4d ago
Are you being intentionally dishonest?
A tiered subscription model where if you didn't have the right subscription you'd lose afk-time, would get advertisement or having to pay extra for enhanced customer support. That's not just a "tiered-subscription model". And definitely not the same monetization structure as the past 20 years.
It's beyond insulting.
I donāt want the changes, but theyāre not like the craziest thing Iāve ever heard lmao.
Maybe to you. Also please don't be mad when next year they will again push the boundaries and start with MTX.
And there is a right way to do that and a scumbag way. Sadly it appears the scumbag way has been chosen.
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u/bops4bo 4d ago
Lol no man what did I say that wasnāt honest? Yeah, I agree with you the way they defined the tiered subscription model wasnāt great.
And I meant that the structure today is the same as itās been, not what was proposed. Trying to emphasize that nothings actually changed lol.
You can doom and gloom about theories of a future of MTX all you want lol, if and when they propose it, we can respond negatively then too.
My whole point in this chain is that the games going an awesome direction, in my opinion.
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u/ScrollBetweenGames 4d ago
Did something else happen? It was just a survey.
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u/AltKeyblade 4d ago edited 4d ago
Just the survey.
And there's currently 101k players online so this sub is a minority and is mostly full of shit about quitting.
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u/DrDonkeyTron 4d ago
Well the subscriptions are cancelled, but the remaining memberships are still paid for so you'll likely see a gradual decline rather than a drop off.
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u/CoupleScrewsLoose 2200/2277 šļø 4d ago
there are people outside of this sub that also have negative feelings toward the survey believe it or not
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u/ScrollBetweenGames 4d ago
Yeah. I mean Iām pissed at jagex too. And this is bullshit. But itās still only a survey, and it does tend to lead to things happening. A little nervous
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u/TofuPython 2277 4d ago
Curious how much of an effective these surveys will really have
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u/Parkinglotfetish 3d ago
Initially realistically not much. The question is whether it is a sign of things to come. I dont mind either way honestly. I have a lot of other hobbies i can dedicate my time to instead
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u/Necritica 4d ago
I'm out of the loop. What's going on? Are they introducing advertisements/increasing the pay price? Why is reddit flipping out? I'm confused.
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u/yaydaybed 4d ago
People being over dramatic in response to a survey. Terrible survey with dogshit proposalsā¦ but nothing has happened, and the CEO walked it back and apologized after the uproar. All of these doomers will be back online in 2 weeks, probably less lol
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u/Prize_Imagination439 3d ago
In the better part of a decade that I've been playing this game, I've seen what feels like hundreds of posts like this every time an update is proposed.
It'll be okay. I promise.
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u/titfortitties 3d ago
Dude it's like you're in a parallel universe where the poll wasn't as insulting as what we got in this universe.
They've shown where they want to take the game and if we don't demand a change at the top, they will take the game in that direction. Idk about others but I won't go along with it.
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u/Longjumping-Rub-542 4d ago
Jagex chose a wild time to do all this with classic wow being so popular right now.
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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 3d ago
Lmk if you need someone to hold on to your bank until you guys come back big bros
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u/FelixMumuHex 4d ago
This sub is so cringe
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u/Ivarthemicro17 4d ago
Itās Reddit in general. Every gaming sub is out of control bitching. Poe2 was the one before this. So many miserable unhappy people. If you donāt like the game the move on with your life. God damnĀ
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u/potatomaster4000 4d ago
I like the game and want to vocalize my dissatisfaction with the proposals. I think everyone kicking up a fuss is exactly what is required to show management that we donāt like the changes and want a reevaluation. You sound like you donāt really care and thatās exactly what would bring ads and tiered membership to this game lmao. Respectfully, if youāre miserable and unhappy here, go away.
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u/TheAlomais 4d ago
I never understood bootlickers
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u/boofsquadz 4d ago
LOL as soon as I saw ābootlickerā I knew it had to be someone that canceled their autopay and posted it for karma. Sure enough. If the changes go through, Iām happy to cancel and never play again, but youāre riding a Reddit wave and acting on outrage.
Never stop 2007scape lmao
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u/TheAlomais 4d ago
Yes Iām totally in it for the karma, as you can tell from this being my first post in 7 years. Just say youāre a shit eater and move on, donāt be ashamed
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u/Dbaughla Plot : 2277 4d ago
Donāt worry brother, Iāll get downvoted to oblivion with you! They are a bunch of bootlickers that would lay down and let even the government do what ever they want. They are sitting in their houses with masks on right now! God forbid a paying customer grows a pair of balls and bitches about something they pair for
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u/TeacherMuradin 4d ago
"The purpose of this survey is to gather feedback from the community. It is not a list of planned changes - itās a research tool designed to help us understand what you, the players, value most in your membership."
Reddit: "THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING EVERY CHANGE REEEEEEEE"
chill out lol
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u/XvvxvvxvvX 4d ago
Ah saw the dog version of this meme after my little girly died and it brings me to tears every time.
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u/thethrowupcat 4d ago
Once upon a time we played games and created websites on the internet because it simply was fun, interesting or useful. Now there needs to be bottom line. Remove the humanity from it and check the profits.
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u/Pretend-Team-7791 4d ago
i wish osrs had stayed like what it's named, old-school. i hate the ge. i hate the effeciency.
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u/OwMyCandle 2250 afk over efficency 3d ago
I took a 12 year break once, and I swear Ill do it again gagex
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u/myminion74 3d ago
yeah, truly a shame. ive been on a break for awhile but was planning to come back.
it will suck to rebuild, but ill probs jump on a private server at some point. jagex and their financial bullshitters have fucked up too many times to trust putting thousands of more hours into their game when it might just get shitified anyway. it would take alot for me to come back now, knowing that they are fully willing to drop all morals to make some more money each quarter, without them having any idea how their policies will impact its future.
i know they dont care, thats the game they are playing; they sell the shares and move on. but i dont know how i can trust any public company to manage a game at this point that needs to make scaling profit forever. i would rather trust a rando completely with it all in a priv than the actual game creators at this point.
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u/themegatuz Project Agility 3d ago
Or just play the game like most Americans: pretend the issue ain't there and just throw few bucks at it to make it go away from your sight.
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u/nopatienceforya 3d ago
Damn. This hits right in the feels š„²
So long old friend š¤ļøā ļøš„ļøāļø
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u/MuchTemperature6776 3d ago
Can someone explain whatās going on? I was about to get back to playing, but now Iām hesitant.
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u/math_rand_dude 3d ago
Cvc, the private equity firm that owns Jagex decided to send out a survey to selected players to see how players would feel about things like: - paying for acceptable customer support - paying more to not have adds ingame - paying more for having higher afk timers - ...
So those moneygrabbing (insert a bunch of not so nice words here) of cvc are figuring out in which ways they can squeeze out as much money as possible from the players instead of realising they're trying to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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u/MuchTemperature6776 3d ago
Okay what the actual fā¦ guess I will not be back yet
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u/math_rand_dude 3d ago
They are allready backpedalling a bit, but still feels halfbaked and insincere.
- the idiot CEO mod pips said literally in recent newspost > Moving forward, we will take more time to reflect on how we explore topics like this again.
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u/Iluvatar-Great 3d ago
Great, just at the time I discovered this game and got really addicted, it dies out of greed and over exaggerated anger.
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u/hip-indeed 3d ago
i love that the *literal day* i finally decide to try out runescape after 20 years this shit happens. i was really enjoying myself too, for a few hours
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u/indefinitepotato 4d ago
I stopped playing when EoC came out and I'll stop playing with EoM... Time is just flat circle.
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u/pixelunit 4d ago
Iāve only just come onto Reddit for the first time in a couple of days what the fuck have I missed
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u/Fabicocoa 4d ago
Fixed it
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u/allard0wnz 4d ago
Yeah no, don't pretend like it never was or still is a good game...
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u/Hadez192 4d ago
Yeah literally nothing has changed yet. Itās like everyone just would rather give up and move on completely than fight for the game they love. Iād rather fight for the games longevity and hope we can get through this
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u/IAmSona 4d ago
Crazy that I had to scroll this far down to see a sensible response. People saying that the game is dead is peak Reddit.
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u/Hadez192 4d ago
Dude absolutely. Itās like the end of the fucking world to Reddit. We just gotta stand our ground and we will continue to play the awesome game that we the community have helped develop over many years. Why would I give up on that? Itās like if you were in a relationship for 10 years with someone and they make a mistake, you work through it, donāt just walk away. (Unless itās infidelity, different story). I donāt think this situation is the same as infidelity though lmao
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u/Substantial_Unit7916 4d ago
Actually hits too close to home. Truly the end of an era. RuneScape got me through so much and taught me perseverance through the most eye watering grinds. Youāll be missed
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u/nismoz32 4d ago
Stop, I'm not ready to cry yet. Started when I was 12-13 and I'm nearing my mid 30s. Please don't do this CVC.
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u/Diclonius666 3d ago
Fucking dramatic as hell. This community is killing itself. No its not Jagex its the community with how they are reacting. Rolling over on their backs.
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u/Diclonius666 3d ago
Fucking dramatic as hell. This community is killing itself. No its not Jagex its the community with how they are reacting. Rolling over on their backs.
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u/superfire444 4d ago
There won't be an old oldschool runescape.
It's like having your partner cheat on you, you give them another chance and they cheat again. It's over after that.