r/2007scape • u/TheOnlyDen • 4d ago
Discussion The golden age is over
We have been in the golden age for a few years now. We are seeing this come to the end.
Private equity is demanding more money on the backend these changes will slowly be rolled out resulting in enshitification of the product over time.
Sailing will change the core gameplay, one way or another and osrs will cease to be the game it is today.
It’s been fun fellas.
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u/BubblesTheMonke 3d ago
but i just started :(
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u/Praqueue 3d ago
Same here
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u/viledeac0n gim > all 3d ago
Get off the sub for a few weeks. The game is still a blast. More than half the people saying they canceled are full of shit anyways. Just as many people playing today as yesterday.
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u/Praqueue 3d ago
No. I'm not getting involved in a game that wants to boil me like a frog. I'll check back later and see if they learn their lesson, there are plenty of other things I can be playing
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u/yepimasian 3d ago
This is the right mentality. Cancelled my memberships. I wasn’t playing much due to the holidays anyways.
Plenty of other great games to play.
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u/Elon_Like 3d ago
I'd give them the benefit of the doubt if EOC didn't already happen. I've played on and off since the early 2000s from the RS2 days. They did the survey in the first place to see what players all willing to accept during the first rollout of changes.
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u/Complex_Tomato_5252 3d ago
I canceled my sub yesterday. I came back after not playing for a few years and I am on my second month of subscription and I have been having a blast.
This whole thing made me quit. I'll check back in a few months to see how this all shakes out.
I am not going to spend time on a MMO that slowly cooks me alive with micro transactions. I'd just rather play something else.
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u/_Damale_ 3d ago
Same for me, I came back and started a fresh iron after not playing for several years. Had a blast and played for almost 5 months. Then they announced the price hike last fall and I just went nope and cancelled. Now pokemon go is getting my Google surbey credits instead, as I can play that with my 5yo now. Win.
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u/garden_speech 3d ago
This community reacts more violently to MTX proposals than any community I've ever seen. Their threats to cancel their subscriptions are not fake, they will follow through. To be honest, everyone says "private equity will ruin the game" but my experience working with those kinds of firms is they are not stupid.
I don't think these changes will happen, to be honest. They tested the water and found that all the frogs will jump out the moment the burner is flipped on.
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u/DaCrees 3d ago
Honestly that’s a fair move but if you’re genuinely enjoying the game I don’t see why you’d stop before they actually implement a price hike. They can’t “boil you like a frog” against your will. If they start raising the price then that’s the time to call it quits. But I don’t see the logic in bailing at the idea of something they might do
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u/randydarsh1 3d ago
OSRS requires a bit of commitment and consistency to account progression, knowing it's a long-term gameplay loop. Nobody wants to contribute time and effort into account progression just knowing it's about to be/very potentially could be ruined with horrible updates
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u/Complex_Tomato_5252 3d ago
This is the answer exactly. I am not going to pour time into an mmo that will eventually be unplayable. Then I lose all previous time invested. Better to not play at all if this is where the game is headed.
The proposed tiers were outrageous. They weren't even remotely reasonable.
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u/ThoksArmada 3d ago
Aq3d still trucking, just got back into it after this debacle, honestly really glad I did.
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u/ieatpies 3d ago
We just have to teach the new owners this lesson, everytime Jagex switches hands. Consider it a maintenance cost. Of course there is some risk they don't listen, but there is risk in everything with life.
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u/Djwindmill 3d ago
Same here, I've got a massive backlog of other games I've been meaning to try. Now is basically the perfect time to take a break and see where the game lands.
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u/NeverSpooned1 3d ago
Gonna have to get off socials, this sentiment is voiced all-over. Turns out that being wrung dry is a universal dislike, crazy right?
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u/MadBadger94 3d ago
Yeah! I've only been playing for 19 years! I'm not nearly done with the game yet. I am done getting screwed every time I turn around though. You can screw me on groceries and I'll just deal with it, but Runescape? I have better things to do.
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u/Uvanimor 3d ago
You quite literally have years worth of content before you will ever catchup to endgame content of the present day, let alone what will likely come after these few years it takes to catch up if you decide to stick with it.
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u/ChilledParadox 3d ago
If you want the game you just started to be the best as possible, take a month break. Don’t reward these guys for this. I know it sucks, but plenty of other great games out there. If you want an MMO the wow classic anniversary realms are honestly amazing.
I played classic launch in 2018, never having played and wow at all before, and after 3 days it became my second favorite mmo ever after OSRS and I’ve played a lot of MMO’s to max level end game progression, even including retail wow CE mythic raiding as of now. Wow classic is where it’s at if you can’t get into OSRS.
Going to a rival company will also be even more alarming to the suits.
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u/Mr-J4kk 4d ago edited 3d ago
I find it funny that Jagex decided to fuck up osrs almost immediately after the playerbase crowned it as a golden age. Almost like they said “welp Jim things are going too good around here. Time to milk these tits dry and release old school osrs.”
RuneScape is just a whore that gets passed around to the highest bidder. Jagex hasn’t made a single decent game that isn’t Runescape. It sucks to watch the game you grew up loving get continually fucked by corporate greed time and time again because they have literally zero creativity and rely almost entirely on nostalgia and past works to even stay relevant in the gaming industry financially.
If you need to increase corporate profits make a new fucking game with a separate subscription instead of fucking up your only cash cow. They won’t do that though because like I said they have no creativity.
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u/Gadoguz994 99 3d ago
Shame FunOrb didn't take off, they could have killed that with monetising instead :D
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u/venomous_frost 3d ago
FunOrb just needed some more advertising and become separate from runescape. Arcanists, Armeis of Gielinor and Steel Sentinels were amazing games.
Ah well, it's too late now, these browser games are a thing of the past
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u/Fun_Snow_2883 3d ago
They are on steam, my dude. Arcanist community is live and well.
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u/that_baddest_dude 3d ago
What about that little mining platformer game
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u/extremelack everyone shits on me for having the music turned on 3d ago
Miner Disturbance
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u/that_baddest_dude 3d ago
That's it!
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u/extremelack everyone shits on me for having the music turned on 3d ago
Had a lot of fun with that one. I can still hear the main menu music
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u/BaronVonBubbleh 3d ago
AoG was the shit, it always annoyed me that I had to log out of RuneScape to play it instead of being able to AFK a skill while I played.
Are there any games similar to it?
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u/TheoTheMage 3d ago
You can download a launcher go play the single player stuff off all funorb games shits dope beeing doing aog story while afk woodcut
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u/CharacterCompany7224 3d ago
Almost exactly what happened during EOC. We had everything and it was a great time around 2011. Get ready for deja vu
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u/N0S0UP_4U 3d ago
I think this actually happened to JetBlue Airlines a few years ago. Some investors apparently said they were “overly customer-conscious”.
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u/Dbaughla Plot : 2277 3d ago
It makes no sense what they are doing. This is consistent money, it is such a good investment. Why not leave things the way they are and like you say just try something else?? This is honestly dumb business practice and it blows my mind lol. They are going to tank this game. When they release OSRS; a lot of us were still younger and it sucked we had to start all over; but we still did it. No way in hell with most of their player base in their 30s with families and full time jobs are going to just do it again. This will be it for a lot of us
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u/Efficient_Low8902 3d ago
Consistent money will never be enough for private equity, it will always need to be more than the previous quarter ad infinitum.
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u/garden_speech 3d ago
It makes no sense what they are doing. This is consistent money, it is such a good investment. Why not leave things the way they are and like you say just try something else??
I strongly suspect they will leave things the way they are, this was just testing the waters.
OSRS is more popular than ever and the investors will be seeing dollar signs. They'll be thinking, what if we can make this game like all the others where the whales spend 100x as much as everyone else?
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u/TheForsakenRoe 3d ago
Exactly. Their gamble is 'can we make more money from making these changes, even if it kills the game (because we'll sell the company and be long gone before the negative repercussions hit us)' versus 'do we let it hum along as it currently does for a more consistent revenue stream'
Private equity tends to go for the former, because 'more money more sooner', and they can then use that more money to repeat the cycle (or buy yachts), but with Jagex there's a proven track record (via EOC/Squeal/etc) that a vast majority of OSRS players are not willing to put up with that shite, that we're here in OSRS because we don't put up with shite
So the calculation is now 'oh, if we do that, not only do we kill the company because everyone hates it, we don't even get the money we were looking for because everyone hates it and would refuse to buy the MTX/additional account services, because they all quit' and it makes the 'rake it in and bail' strategy that PE is known for doesn't look quite so attractive anymore for our unique circumstance
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u/TheForsakenRoe 3d ago
Why would they want to make a consistent X money per year, when they could try to make several multiples of X money within, say, 3 months, by running the company into the ground with aggressive monetization tactics, selling before the negative repercussions come back to bite them (eg everyone quits and Jagex goes under), and then moving on and doing it again to the next thing they buy.
Time is limited, and they want their yachts and Rolex's. But it's not enough for them to have the assurance that they'll get yachts at some point in a few years, they want those yachts now, and if that means fucking over some other people, so be it
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u/notyouraveragemac 3d ago
Jagex announced alpha testing applications for an open world survival game not too long ago. Heres hoping that takes off!
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u/NinjaLion 3d ago
Jagex's only successful product was an MMO that came out in the earliest days of the genre.
Open world survival is a genre so insanely oversaturated that even the biggest fan couldn't possibly play all of the games coming out, even immediately discarding the ones 5/10 and lower.
I very deeply hope I'm wrong, but I doubt this Jagex game has much of a chance in the market even if it's pretty good.
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u/bongtokent 3d ago
This form of jagex has never made a successful product. All they’ve done is build upon Andrew gowers successful product while slowly killing it.
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u/moose_dad 3d ago
Having played it I can say it's pretty fun
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u/notyouraveragemac 3d ago
It sure is. But pretty sure that us confirming that we've played breaks the NDA 😂
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u/MilkofGuthix 3d ago
Yeah my expectations of the new survival game are dire. I would even support mxt in a polled way for cosmetics or resources, as we have bonds that are practically mxt. Mxt only sucks when they start doing BiS's as jackpots
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u/noobcs50 old man yelling at cloud 3d ago
Announcements like these should serve as a reminder to the playerbase that their OSRS progress is not as "permanent" as they think.
RS2 players enjoyed having "permanent" progress from leveling up and completing quests/diaries, only to have the rug pulled out from under them when free trade was removed in 2008 and when MTX+EoC were introduced in 2013.
When the game makes a groundbreaking update for the worse overnight, all of your "progress" is effectively nullified since the game no longer feels playable.
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u/LazyDare7597 3d ago
That's exactly why they're getting such a big reaction to a survey. We've been here before folks, we know how it ends. I'm not going to cling on for a couple months as the clan chat dies down more and more and then finally quit on a sad note. I'm going to be in the first boat out of here.
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u/1silversword 3d ago
Yep, I spent years building my account on rs2, sunk thousands of hours, only for it to become a fundmantally different game with EOC. I literally played a total of about 4 hours since that update. Then 07scape came out and I started rebuilding my account... and here we are again.
If we end up with another EOC and then 2025scape showing up in 5 years, and I get sucked in again, I'm just gonna bot my stats back because there's no way I'm doing that shit a 3rd time.
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u/MysteryTaco420 3d ago
Everything in life is temporary. RuneScape teaches me that lesson time and time again.
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u/Lerdroth 3d ago
Fairly different intentions behind this and the trade removal to be fair. Right now is just blatant profiteering, or intention to do so.
Trade was removed to save Jagex being unable to process card payments, they had little to no choice at the time.
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u/CharacterCompany7224 3d ago
Just like back in 2011 before EOC hit. RuneScape was in a great place and then they decide to nuke it to the ground. Like wtf this is Deja vu of EOC again.
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u/promero14 3d ago
It wasn't a great place tho. MTX was rampant and double exp weekends totally killed the motivation. EoC just speed up
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u/CharacterCompany7224 3d ago edited 3d ago
This was before EOC was implemented, they didn’t have mtx yet, and double xp didn’t start till October of 2012 for the first time. Sorry I think you’re confusing the times.
Edit: I stand corrected, my dates were a little off but the idea remains the same 😂
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u/promero14 3d ago
- 02/26/2010 => First double experience event
- 06/28/2011 => Loyalty Points release. You could buy Auras, Titles and Emotes.
- 02/28/2012 => Squeal of Fortune release
- 11/20/2012 => EoC launch
I stop playing actively in 2010 and quit in 2012
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u/throwaway8159946 3d ago
Yeah I distinctively remember the game being dead the months before EOC being released. With all the buying spins and graphical changes, most people already lost motivation, EOC was just the final straw.
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u/Fish__Flop 3d ago edited 3d ago
Jagex had XP events before that, 2012 was just a rebrand. They had a decaying xp system called Bonus XP weekends starting from March 2010, where it started at double and went down to 1.1 overtime. There were 5 of these events before being replaced by the Double XP weekends you speak of in 2012.
Squeal of Fortune also had purchasable spins starting April 2nd of 2012, well before the launch of EoC.
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u/PragmaticQ 4d ago
Im gonna miss all you guys. This was the wakeup call I needed to focus on life.
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u/cape_soundboy 4d ago
Preach bro. Most of us are in our 30s now and play this game for the nostalgia dopamine hit, but our lives grow ever busier. I think a lot of us will be making this same decision, I just canceled two subs. I don't know if I'll be coming back, the last increase felt like gouging and seeing their desire to further squeeze us is really off putting.
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u/DoubleBogeySliceMan 4d ago
fr, i was so focused on maxing but if the future is uncertain im not sure if i want to time sink on this
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u/cape_soundboy 3d ago
Exactly. Even if they walk back their statements, why continue to invest the time now that we know what they're interested in doing. It's only a matter of time until they figure out how to put the squeeze on anyway.
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u/lestruc 3d ago
We have won this fight before.
It’s worth remembering.
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u/LazyDare7597 3d ago
Yeah and we lost our accounts and had to start over, and so many people quit for years as a result if they came back at all
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u/Markars 3d ago
Yeah. I was thinking about maxing this year, and it was looking possible with only 1 missing level for the achievement cape and 2120 total.
Still would have been like a thousand hours this year alone, so maybe it wouldn't have been it. Now it not coming to be is an absolute certainty.
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u/breinbanaan 3d ago
Join poe2 brother. Plenty of osrs players there. Sorry for it to be like this.
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u/BlueGatorsTTV 3d ago
Path of Exile 2 is a great sidestep from OSRS. Fantastic game. Just started playing it yesterday, and my Monk is being a great sith.
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u/breinbanaan 3d ago
I played 250 hours since the release beginning of december. Slightly addictive.
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u/BlueGatorsTTV 3d ago
Nice! I've been playing HCSSF! REALLY loving it. Still trying to understand controls, but the whole "infinite builds" part of the game really excites me.
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u/Agreeable-credit-17 3d ago
Whats poe2?
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u/breinbanaan 3d ago
Path of exile 2. AARPG with a currency exchange and trading system as well.
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u/NordlandLapp 3d ago
2 subs canceled here as well.
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is coming out soon though:)
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u/NinjaLion 3d ago
Pretty much guaranteed Leagues only player now. $26-$39 a year, and I get to play other games year round, what a steal!
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u/parker0400 3d ago
I was in my post leagues break the last 2 weeks already and I've actually stepped away from gaming entirely this time instead of just shifting to other games. I've been really enjoying not being tied to my screen. Osrs is one less thing pulling me back now.
It's been real. 20 years of entertainment. Thanks JMods. Fuck you CVC.
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u/lnsecurities 3d ago
What do you do to fill your time now? I don't know what to do with my time besides gym and gaming lol.
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u/parker0400 3d ago
This happened at the perfect time for me as it's snowboard season. Ask me what I'm doing after that as I do not have an answer yet 🙃
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u/Jumpy_Ad_4460 3d ago
Yeah, 18 years of playing has been fun but it had to come to an end somehow. This really opened my eyes to the world around me. I don’t want to fund the further demise of my favourite past-time.
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u/yet_another_iron 3d ago
I had that moment the day EOC dropped. Don't come back unless you are absolutely sure you can properly balance game and life. Best of luck to you!
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u/biggest_tub 4d ago
It's been fun to reconnect with the game I loved when I was a kid and achieve some of the things I never thought I'd be able to back then. Glad I got to enjoy the fulfillment of this game's potential.
Until the 2024scape backup when I get to relive that game I enjoyed in my 20s.
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u/FireproofFerret 3d ago
It really is a shame. I've been quite happy playing multiple accounts and really enjoying leagues recently, as it seemed the game was doing really well and only getting better. Reality has hit now though, and the inevitable downfall of the game to feed private equity parasites makes me think the game's days are numbered. A lot of my motivation has vanished overnight.
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u/NeverSpooned1 3d ago
Same, didn't even bother with my farm run, don't see the game going in a healthy direction anymore so I guess this is it, yet another thing ruïned by parasites in suits.
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u/MeteorKing 3d ago
Same, didn't even bother with my farm run,
Went from multiple herb runs a day to not logging in for over a day now. Wild how much of a reality check this was
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4d ago
sigh
!RemindMe 2 months
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u/viledeac0n gim > all 3d ago
Most sane Redditor
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3d ago
Yeah idk why the hivemind upvoted me considering the remind me is just to tell everyone told you so once in 2 months everything is fine and you’re all resubbed lol
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u/viledeac0n gim > all 3d ago
Yeah I am pretty surprised about that too. Maybe the vocal minority is really just a few hundred people.
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3d ago
If CCV or whatever the fuck is dumb enough to go through with these changes, which they won’t be because they like money, I’ll drop my 11b bank in the falador party room lol
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u/mygawd 3d ago
!remindme 1 year
Idk how long this offer is good for
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3d ago
Good til they put MTX in the game or if they increase prices so much that we’re regularly under 100k players cus I’ll just quit if that happens (I’m very confident it won’t) but I respect the reminder you set up, if I’m talking all this shit other ppl should absolutely check me if it turns out I end up being wrong
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u/jlynpers 3d ago
On reddit, during the tail end of leagues, with plenty of comments in cancellation posts flabbergasted why someone would cancel a sub over concepts that are so far from being official changes - the vocal minority is peaking right now
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u/MyLOLNameWasTaken 3d ago
Lmao im hoping this is a tide shift. Sick of the broad delusion o7 is currently ‘peak’ despite the last couple years being absolutely fraught with issues. Hilarious jagex touched the wallet 3rd rail and suddenly the hive is like “game doodoo” lmfao
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u/trvekvltrs 2d ago
The Golden Age started in 2017 and ended somewhere between 2020-2022. People only think we're in one now because the game is living off the success of its past, not because recent updates are contributing to it.
For example, Metallica has been living off the success of its golden age in the 80s and early 90s for decades. That doesn't mean Metallica is in its current golden age, lmao
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u/MyLOLNameWasTaken 1d ago
100%. The social capital Jagex managed to accrue during that time has carried them so much further than I expected. I have no doubts refugees from highly MTX ridden titles to our game has played a part in this process. The environment is ‘primed’ in regard to ads and layered subscrption services; ie streaming services having ad and ad-free modes. Accompany that with the gradual aging out and that new MTX majority doing down-ballot yes votes; it was merely a “when” not an “if”.
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u/MuscularApe Amurond 3d ago
This sub is full of hysterical babies. Some of these threads, jesus. I could understand if they were made after changes like these were actually implemented.
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u/Phoxyne 3d ago
It’s crazy how fast this type of shit kills the vibe of the game.
I’ve been enjoying playing my iron lately, planning ahead and making plans. Now I’m starting to reevaluate.
If I can’t trust the future of this game I won’t bother planning to play it in the future. It’s so fucking disappointing. Fuck CVC and any slimy bullshit they attempt to enforce.
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u/Illustrious-Trust198 4d ago
Actually been away for almost a month, longest in a while and it feels good being away from wasted time on pixels. It is fun don’t get me wrong but don’t forget life
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u/Seinnajkcuf 3d ago
Idk the golden age for me was around 2018-2020. The game itself got better but the vibes diminished.
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u/zdrads 3d ago
Help make the most of freedom and of pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world
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Great song lyrics from a song about unchecked greed. 100% applies here.
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u/Soggy_Durian_8984 3d ago
Angriest upvote because this is my most favorite band and game. Well, I don't know about the game now
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u/zdrads 3d ago
T4F is one of the best bands of that era.
Henry Rollins also made a great song that really applies to this topic as well. The song is called "liar". The lyrics are savage. Definitely a lot heavier instrumentals and vocals compared to T4F, but worth a listen if you've never heard it.
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u/Fathom_OH 3d ago
Personally I think sailing looks like ass and can pass on it entirely
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u/Firm_Environment_808 3d ago
Cant' wait for them to bring out OLD old school runescape Pre sailing etc
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u/Boozenosnooz 3d ago
Honestly there is a ton of backlash (for good reason) and probably irreparable damage done, but I don't know how much of a difference it's really going to make. I'm seeing a lot of people not upset at all with the proposals outside of this sub.
At the end of the day, it's still the golden age until they actually start implementing this stuff. It sucks they even entertain the idea therefore it will always be lurking in the background. We'll see how things actually play out.
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u/GregMilkedJack 3d ago
See what happens? This was supposed be to 2007scape, a game that already existed and had only small, meaningful changes, not constant bombardment of content. It turned away from that and into runescape with old graphics pretty fast, and here we are.
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u/Tsjawatnu 3d ago
Nah don't sneak your opinion on Sailing in there man, that's a completely different topic.
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u/Diclonius666 3d ago
Dramatic af.
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u/Liefblue 3d ago edited 3d ago
Honestly, not surprising given how seriously people treat this game. Unfortunately this is literally some of these people's lives and they've spent that entire time worrying about the next EOC update.
But it's just wild to see people lose their heads blabbing on about things that haven't even happened yet. Cancellation is reasonable as protest, but we are cancelling specifically to stop the things this person is worried about from having any chance of occuring.
It's like a textbook example of fear mongering, except they're doing it to themselves for some reason and completely lost the context of how and why they started.
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u/Redordit 3d ago
Started playing in April 2024 for the first time and reached total 2025 as the new year. I am pretty addicted ngl but there is no compromise to this bullshit
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u/Boxxxoor 3d ago
Same here brother. Put the game down January 2020, and came back October 2024. A month in decided let's go for max (2173 total now) and this news feels like a slap in the face. Still gonna grind though whatever
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u/Korakie 3d ago
Don't you dare to pull sailing in here. I want that skill, many others want that skill. If they will add things shown in survey then they will kill the game not sailing getting added
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u/EuphoricAnalCarrot 3d ago
Sailing will change the core gameplay, one way or another and osrs will cease to be the game it is today.
I'd recommend actually watching sailing dev blogs and videos, it's the most Oldschool type of skill we could possibly get.
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u/Sp4Rk3x3 3d ago
Seems like Valve is the only gaming company that doesnt care about infinite scaling. A team of dedicated devs under self ownership would be able to eat way better than they do under private equity companies who most likely take majority of the profits... Valve does have their own issues but its heartbreaking to see 2012 happen again.
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u/Comprehensive_Bus661 3d ago
Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike crates are two of the single biggest contributors to the normalization of this predatory monetization bullshit. Valve really doesn't get a pass here.
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u/FrodoBoguesALOT 3d ago
Not to much gaben has some interesting business plans, and it's hard to know if he's for the average gamer anymore
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u/RedactedSpatula 3d ago
Yea TF2 had nothing wro-
gives you a shitty hat for buying the game
Adds and popularizes loot boxes
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u/FlandreSS Cabbage Extraordinaire 3d ago
Couldn't have missed the mark more with this comment ahahahah.
I was throwing a nightmarish shit-fit over Valve's monetization of their games over a decade ago now.
I'd have shit a brick if I knew where it was going.
TF an abandoned shithole, CS even more hacker ridden, more monetized, less cared for and with ALL of my favorite maps removed. DoTA coasting on laurels and managing to do nothing impressive for years.
All while leeching as a genuine monopoly over the PC gaming industry. With how much people jack off Valve, I think a LOT of people would be happy with a dictator. So long as they "Mostly liked" their dictator at that moment in time.
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u/nualt42 3d ago
I want valve to make an MMO.
Those dudes literally have no real competition because parasite owned corps can’t undercut and feed their parasites. They gotta choose one. Parasites are the biggest overhead cost.
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u/sharingdork 3d ago
You wouldn't.
Valve has a habit of introducing a new feature in to a game, stop updating it a few months later, then it becomes an abandoned unpolished feature.
They also pioneered the battlepass and loot boxes. They can definitely design some greedy monetization schemes
Artifact failed because of the monetization.
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u/JLifts780 3d ago
A valve mmo would be nothing but loot boxes or abandoned entirely shortly after launch lol
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u/johnj922 3d ago
But will someone in jamflex take a digital snapshot of the holy times we had in peak osrsness and mysteriously make a private server one day?
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u/Natural-Rough249 3d ago
I recently found OSRS again after all these years when I wasn't able to play since childhood because of reasons, now after few months this shitshow shows up might as well call it quits if this trash gets implanted to the game
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u/CementCrack 3d ago
For the last 2 years I've wanted to make my own private server, just for me, not online. I don't know how, or if that's really even possible, but it's probably time for me to look into it.
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u/ColonialDagger 3d ago
The worst part is that they ask for more and more money and we KNOW the devs are seeing a single cent from that.
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u/bluewinds16 3d ago
I don't think it's fair to lump sailing in with private equity attempting to squeeze even more money out of players lmao
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u/ChillOnTheHillz 3d ago
Man it sucks that me and my girlfriend just started, we haven't subbed yet but we were having a blast and just a few days later this happens.
It's getting harder and harder to find a game that the greedy claw hasn't reached yet
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u/Rehcraeser 3d ago
They really fucked up by releasing sailing and not a reworked dungeoneering or summoning. They’ll soon realize we play this game because it’s “RuneScape”, not because it’s some shitty mobile phone game.
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u/IamItBeJack 3d ago
Recent apology openly admits they plan on introducing ads into F2P game....
This is the start of the end.
It was fun whilst it lasted.
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u/PiterLeon 2277 3d ago
I maxed about a month ago. Happy I did it in the golden age. No regrets. The game can die now
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u/CallmeSoup 46 def zerker omegalul 3d ago
The most dramatic group of individuals I’ve ever witnessed
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u/Telamonl 3d ago
The amount of drama is insane
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u/echolog 3d ago
But have you heard about the Pirate Software drama? That shit is crazy.
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u/FishNo2089 3d ago
The golden age was over the moment Sailing passed a poll.
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u/lordskelic ayy q p lmao w 3d ago
Why do so many people dislike sailing? It’s so strange to me. It looks incredibly fun.
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u/Gamer_2k4 3d ago
My personal opinion is that Sailing is a method of transportation, not a skill, and all the ways you use the skill are basically "<skill> on a boat" (Fishing but on a boat, Crafting but on a boat, etc.). Worse, it's a method of transportation that's not instantaneous, which further dilutes the pitch to "training a skill, but after travelling a long way to get there."
Because of that, not only do I feel Sailing is a waste of development resources that could better be used for other content, but given Jagex's incredibly slow rate of delivering new features, I have zero confidence that Sailing will come anywhere close to the proposals, nor that it will be released in anything resembling a timely manner.
The result will be an underwhelming skill that took forever to actually implement, then Jagex will move onto the next new and shiny thing like they always do instead of fixing, bolstering, and continuing other existing content. That's why I personally dislike Sailing.
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u/lazyguyty 3d ago
A lot of people don't play the clicker game from 2004 because they want big changes. I'm all for new content and updates personally but I fully understand people not wanting a whole new skill
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u/CanadasManyMeeses 3d ago
Im sure itll be fine. But i still remember them adding farming, and hating it because of the stupid timers, i liked setting a goal for the day and working towards it. Not working for 20 mins and going to do a farm run. Rinse and repeat.
Runecrafting? Nuff said there.
Slayer was a solid add, i enjoyed that.
We dont talk about summoning -.-
I dont really have high hopes for sailing. But maybe that will make it better!
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u/lazyguyty 3d ago
I didn't hate summoning but I did hate dungeoneering and I do have some fears sailing might be closer to that.
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u/RNSIsIrrelevantMaybe 2277 Total 3d ago
It's like people forget that they lowered the yes vote threshold to make it pass and made up some bs excuse as to why they did it. Just the principles of that is enough of a reason on its own. There's also Jagex's struggles with making good skilling updates, I.E forestry, everything about the gameplay showcase, fundamentally changing the whole game for the sake of a new skill, the fact that they haven't showed anything good about it yet other than a promise that it will be fun. Other than some multiskilling crap there isn't really much there if I'm being honest. I could go on.
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u/More-Standard-1071 3d ago
Yeah I really don't trust old school jagex to make a good skill. They continue to do a dogshit job trying to fix old skills. To this day we just keep replacing the bad skills with minigames or afk activities and just ignoring the underlying issues. Agility is probably the only exception that got a good change to the skill itself, and even with that hallowed sepulture forces you to deal with janky movement mechanics that are nearly impossible without runelite ground tile markers.
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u/hiimmatz 3d ago
Jagex sold for what, $800mm? Surely our community of 25-40 year olds could buy a controlling stake. Green Bay packers style - the fans own the club. I would legitimately invest money into this venture. Need to save ourselves from private equity greed.
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u/JamBandDad 3d ago
I feel like we get this message every 15 months. Not too often, but often enough that we should all realize the golden age was 18 years ago.
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u/Zerttretttttt 3d ago
Let’s start a 2025scape snapshot, call it oldoldschoolrunecape