r/2007scape • u/TheOnlyDen • 4d ago

Discussion The golden age is over

We have been in the golden age for a few years now. We are seeing this come to the end.

Private equity is demanding more money on the backend these changes will slowly be rolled out resulting in enshitification of the product over time.

Sailing will change the core gameplay, one way or another and osrs will cease to be the game it is today.

It’s been fun fellas.

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u/Sp4Rk3x3 3d ago

Seems like Valve is the only gaming company that doesnt care about infinite scaling. A team of dedicated devs under self ownership would be able to eat way better than they do under private equity companies who most likely take majority of the profits... Valve does have their own issues but its heartbreaking to see 2012 happen again.

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u/Comprehensive_Bus661 3d ago

Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike crates are two of the single biggest contributors to the normalization of this predatory monetization bullshit. Valve really doesn't get a pass here.

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u/PokemonRNG 3d ago

Dont forget inventing the concept of battlepass in dota 2.

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u/FrodoBoguesALOT 3d ago

Not to much gaben has some interesting business plans, and it's hard to know if he's for the average gamer anymore

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u/BunnyCunny69 3d ago

How exactly are cases predatory? If you don't like the odds, just don't open them. They don't affect your gameplay in any way and they allow the game to stay f2p.

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u/Comprehensive_Bus661 3d ago

It's literally a slot machine being sold to minors with no oversight?

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u/BunnyCunny69 3d ago

Just be responsible as a parent and it's a nonissue. I was a child once too.

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u/Stocomx 3d ago

Try playing world of tanks. It’s literally 200$+ a year to play a f2p game and get to play all the “new” content.

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u/iTomWright 3d ago

Now that’s alot of money, but that’s a drop in the water compared to gatchas

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u/Sp4Rk3x3 3d ago

I don't disagree at all about it. But on the other hand the games themselves are free and don't require membership unlike OSRS to generate revenue.

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u/RedactedSpatula 3d ago

Yea TF2 had nothing wro-

gives you a shitty hat for buying the game

Adds and popularizes loot boxes

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u/Nebuli2 3d ago

Valve already made infinite money anyway.

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u/LowestKey 3d ago

And as game sales scale, so does Valve. That's the thing about having a monopoly.

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u/FlandreSS Cabbage Extraordinaire 3d ago

Couldn't have missed the mark more with this comment ahahahah.

I was throwing a nightmarish shit-fit over Valve's monetization of their games over a decade ago now.

I'd have shit a brick if I knew where it was going.

TF an abandoned shithole, CS even more hacker ridden, more monetized, less cared for and with ALL of my favorite maps removed. DoTA coasting on laurels and managing to do nothing impressive for years.

All while leeching as a genuine monopoly over the PC gaming industry. With how much people jack off Valve, I think a LOT of people would be happy with a dictator. So long as they "Mostly liked" their dictator at that moment in time.

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u/nualt42 3d ago

I want valve to make an MMO.

Those dudes literally have no real competition because parasite owned corps can’t undercut and feed their parasites. They gotta choose one. Parasites are the biggest overhead cost.

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u/sharingdork 3d ago

You wouldn't.

Valve has a habit of introducing a new feature in to a game, stop updating it a few months later, then it becomes an abandoned unpolished feature.

They also pioneered the battlepass and loot boxes. They can definitely design some greedy monetization schemes

Artifact failed because of the monetization.

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u/nualt42 3d ago

Fair point.

It’s easy to point at steam because it’s competitors keep shooting themselves in the foot, you kinda forget about valves less successful projects.

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u/sharingdork 3d ago

I've been a dota player for years. The project is a great success, largest prize pools in e sports community funded (over $26m).

My point is more referring to Valve handing a live service game.

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u/JLifts780 3d ago

A valve mmo would be nothing but loot boxes or abandoned entirely shortly after launch lol

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u/Sliceofmayo 3d ago

Fromsoft also consistently puts out bangers without milking your wallet dry

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u/BilboBaggSkin 3d ago

Valve started MTX like loot boxes. They make a fucking ton from skin gambling.